** 12-Aug-2023 World View: Russia and China
JDav wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:58 pm
John, perhaps you didn't see my
earlier question. How does our
involvement in the Ukraine-Russia
war affect your prediction of a
Russia/India/US alliance against
China, et al? Russia has been known
to change sides when convenient, but
would they now, after suffering the
ignominies we've heaped on them?
And, after all this administration
has said and done, how could we
accept Russia as an ally? Just
saying, "Oceania is now at war with
Eastasia, therefore it's always been
at war with Eastasia," probably
won't cut it. We're not quite
there, yet.
To understand this, you have to
understand that generational crisis wars
are existential threats and so depend on
the attitudes of entire populations and
generations, rather than the attitudes
of the politicians.
I've described the situation in the
past. The Russian people hate the
Chinese people but love the European
people, even though Russia has been
invaded by both, the worst invasion
being the hated "Mongol Yoke" that
followed the 1209 Mongol invasion of
China, followed by an attack and
conquest of almost all the Russian
principalities, making them bitter
vassals of the Mongol Empire for two
centuries.
The major European invasions of Russia
were all non-crisis
(Awakening/Unraveling era) wars for
Russia, fought in conjunction with a
crisis war for Europe. These were the
Great Northern War with Sweden during
the European War of the Spanish
Succession (1701-14), Napoleon's
invasion (1812) following the French
Revolution, and Hitler's invasion during
World War II.
Russia's crisis wars for the last few
centuries were internal rebellions --
the Razin's peasant rebellion in the
1600s, Pugachev's Rebellion in the
1770s, the Crimean War in the 1850s, and
the Bolshevik Revolution in the 1910s.
Furthermore, as I've described in the
past, China has 20 border disputes with
its neighbors. This includes claiming
34,000 sq km of Kazakhstan's territory,
and also claiming much of Russia's Far
East, including Vladivostok, the home of
Russia's Pacific Fleet.
As I've described many times, Russia and
China are historic enemies, at war most
recently in the 1960s. They currently
have a kind of "marriage of convenience"
in opposition to the United States and
West, who oppose their respective
threatened invasions of Ukraine and
Taiwan. But it won't be long before the
historic differences turn to new
disagreements and war.
Another historical event to remember is
that Nazi Germany and Russia were allies
before WW II, but America and Russia
were allies during WW II.
** 5-Jul-20 World View -- India's list of China's border disputes and disagreements
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e200705