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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:59 pm
by Guest
Video of the net crash available online shows the plane falling from the sky--a straight drop in broad daylight.

Wagner forces say the plane was shot down by Russian air defense

Re: Russia Army Pay

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:53 am
by Guest
Guest from abroad wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:44 am
Bob Butler wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 5:20 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 am

Monthly pay in the Russian army is now $5
Just checked Google, which gave 195,000 rubles or $2,535 a month. Not sure if this is before or after the boost.
Russian soldiers collect, on average, to this day, a paltry 20,000 rubles ($220) a month, if they are paid at all. Death bonuses and military disability in the regular army are rarely paid or not paid at all. It is a scandal in Russia. Few, if any Russian soldiers are paid 195,000 rubles per month. Mobilization pay has also gone largely unpaid. Crippled Russian soldiers live in dire poverty. The Russian army officer corps is filled with cowards and common thieves.

Only Wagner PMC and Prigozhin honor its contracts. Westerners have no idea how screwed up Putin's Russia really is. Putin lies about everything. Prigozhin is also a liar but Prigozhin did tell the truth about the war. Prigozhin remains a hero to most Russians.

The Night of Long Knives is coming.

Yevgeny Prigozhin remains Vladimir Vladimirovich 's paramount threat within Russia. And there is no guarantee Putin survives.
Looks like it arrived today.

Re: Russia Army Pay

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:34 am
by guest mm
Guest wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:53 am
Guest from abroad wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:44 am
Bob Butler wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 5:20 pm

Just checked Google, which gave 195,000 rubles or $2,535 a month. Not sure if this is before or after the boost.
Russian soldiers collect, on average, to this day, a paltry 20,000 rubles ($220) a month, if they are paid at all. Death bonuses and military disability in the regular army are rarely paid or not paid at all. It is a scandal in Russia. Few, if any Russian soldiers are paid 195,000 rubles per month. Mobilization pay has also gone largely unpaid. Crippled Russian soldiers live in dire poverty. The Russian army officer corps is filled with cowards and common thieves.

Only Wagner PMC and Prigozhin honor its contracts. Westerners have no idea how screwed up Putin's Russia really is. Putin lies about everything. Prigozhin is also a liar but Prigozhin did tell the truth about the war. Prigozhin remains a hero to most Russians.

The Night of Long Knives is coming.

Yevgeny Prigozhin remains Vladimir Vladimirovich 's paramount threat within Russia. And there is no guarantee Putin survives.
Looks like it arrived today.
And there is still no guarantee Putin survives.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:09 pm
by Cool Breeze
Ha! You guys are losers, just like the half dead people you listen to.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:31 am
by hey
Cool Breeze wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:09 pm Ha! You guys are losers, just like the half dead people you listen to.
Care to explain why?

Re: Russia Army Pay

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:32 am
by hey
Guest from abroad wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:10 pm
Bob Butler wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 5:20 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 am

Monthly pay in the Russian army is now $5
Just checked Google, which gave 195,000 rubles or $2,535 a month. Not sure if this is before or after the boost.
The poster's joke went over your head.

Of note, the regular Russian army is marking a lot of dead Russian troops as Missing in Action--not Killed in Action--in order to avoid or delay (and eventually avoid) paying the death bonus promised in the contracts. Also, monthly pay is also being delayed or docked in many cases.

The Wagner Group seems to be better at paying out death benefits and honoring contracts than the regular Russian army. Wagner Group veterans, even the disabled and badly mangled Wagner Group veterans, are deeply loyal to the Wagner PMC leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, which is interesting.

Yevgeny Prigozhin has built up a huge following in Russia. When a Russian (anti-Putin/ Anti-war) You Tuber asked Russians on the street what they thought of Wagner, the response was overwhelmingly positive. Prigozhin's rants on Telegram (which I have watched) are extremely effective. Prigozhin speaks the language of the common Russian man in the streets. Putin does not. Prigozhin knows how to work a crowd. If Putin doesn't kill him soon, Prigozhin WILL challenge Putin for power.
This 'Guest from abroad' gets it.

Re: Russia Army Pay

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:35 am
by hey
Cool Breeze wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 9:30 am
Guest from abroad wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:10 pm
Bob Butler wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 5:20 pm

Just checked Google, which gave 195,000 rubles or $2,535 a month. Not sure if this is before or after the boost.
The poster's joke went over your head.

Of note, the regular Russian army is marking a lot of dead Russian troops as Missing in Action--not Killed in Action--in order to avoid or delay (and eventually avoid) paying the death bonus promised in the contracts. Also, monthly pay is also being delayed or docked in many cases.

The Wagner Group seems to be better at paying out death benefits and honoring contracts than the regular Russian army. Wagner Group veterans, even the disabled and badly mangled Wagner Group veterans, are deeply loyal to the Wagner PMC leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, which is interesting.

Yevgeny Prigozhin has built up a huge following in Russia. When a Russian (anti-Putin/ Anti-war) You Tuber asked Russians on the street what they thought of Wagner, the response was overwhelmingly positive. Prigozhin's rants on Telegram (which I have watched) are extremely effective. Prigozhin speaks the language of the common Russian man in the streets. Putin does not. Prigozhin knows how to work a crowd. If Putin doesn't kill him soon, Prigozhin WILL challenge Putin for power.
No he won't.
Cool Breeze does not get it.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:38 am
by Guest
Guest wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:54 pm
John wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:26 pm ** 23-Aug-2023 World View: Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin killed

Ten killed in private jet crash north of
Moscow - Wagner leader Yevgeny Prigozhin
'on passenger list'

Wednesday 23 August 2023

https://news.sky.com/story/ten-killed-i ... t-12946006
🇷🇺⚡️- Dmitry Utkin, the co-founder and second-in-command of PMC Wagner, has also died aboard the plane.

A clean sweep.
Prigozhin and his 6 top PMC leads were all assassinated by Putin. A clean sweep.

Re: Russia Army Pay

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:02 am
by Guest
hey wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:35 am
Cool Breeze wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 9:30 am
Guest from abroad wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:10 pm
The poster's joke went over your head.

Of note, the regular Russian army is marking a lot of dead Russian troops as Missing in Action--not Killed in Action--in order to avoid or delay (and eventually avoid) paying the death bonus promised in the contracts. Also, monthly pay is also being delayed or docked in many cases.

The Wagner Group seems to be better at paying out death benefits and honoring contracts than the regular Russian army. Wagner Group veterans, even the disabled and badly mangled Wagner Group veterans, are deeply loyal to the Wagner PMC leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, which is interesting.

Yevgeny Prigozhin has built up a huge following in Russia. When a Russian (anti-Putin/ Anti-war) You Tuber asked Russians on the street what they thought of Wagner, the response was overwhelmingly positive. Prigozhin's rants on Telegram (which I have watched) are extremely effective. Prigozhin speaks the language of the common Russian man in the streets. Putin does not. Prigozhin knows how to work a crowd. If Putin doesn't kill him soon, Prigozhin WILL challenge Putin for power.
No he won't.
Cool Breeze does not get it.
CB is wrong about Bitcoin just as he was wrong about Wagner PMC rebelling. Don't worry. You will get used to his wrong calls :)

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:00 pm
by Guest
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3WvncIRoBo[/youtube]
Prigozhin was ‘naive’ to believe Putin’s word following failed mutiny | former GRU Spetsnaz