Bolivia has broken relations with Israel over Gaza. More countries will follow. This is the beginning of Israel's apartheid state pariah status.richard5za wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:36 am USA support for Israel is starting to decline: See this headline now global:
Biden calls for ‘pause’ in Israel’s war in Gaza for the first time
This could encourage other countries to enter war against Israel
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Where to in Gaza?
Typically when an Arab organization attacks Israel, they end up losing territory. That is how Israel expands. If that is accepted, will Hezbollah attack Israel? If the war is going to expand, that seems the most probable place. Thing is, Israel expanding into areas with greater Palestinian population than Jewish is bad juju if Israel is pretending to be a democracy. It may be like the West Bank. You can't allow an overt military develop, but you can't give the population votes either. The result is a quasi state. Apartheid by any other name?
Iran has been pushing proxies, but has no border with Israel, thus is in less of a position to lose territory. They are instigating incidents with the US, which is balancing retaliation to discourage attacks with a desire not to escalate. At a guess, this will continue but not result in much.
There is a lot of international disapproval of Israel's ignoring Hamas human shield tactics. If Hamas wants Israel to kill Palestinian civilians, Israel seems willing. So far there seem few or no calls for sanctions, but that seems to be the next step. That might be something to watch.
Iran has been pushing proxies, but has no border with Israel, thus is in less of a position to lose territory. They are instigating incidents with the US, which is balancing retaliation to discourage attacks with a desire not to escalate. At a guess, this will continue but not result in much.
There is a lot of international disapproval of Israel's ignoring Hamas human shield tactics. If Hamas wants Israel to kill Palestinian civilians, Israel seems willing. So far there seem few or no calls for sanctions, but that seems to be the next step. That might be something to watch.
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Latin America's Leftist Leaders Recall Israel Ambassadors Over Its War With Hamas
The downward spiral has begun.(Bloomberg) -- Latin America’s leftist leaders are reevaluating their relations with Israel over its offensive in the Gaza Strip, highlighting the diplomatic risks posed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s bid to eradicate Hamas.
On Tuesday, Colombia and Chile recalled their ambassadors to Israel for consultations to protest the country’s attacks on Gaza. The hard-left government of Bolivia cut off diplomatic relations with Israel altogether, accusing it of “crimes against humanity.”
Israel’s attacks on Gaza “don’t respect the fundamental rules of international law,” Chilean President Gabriel Boric said in a post on X. Colombia President Gustavo Petro, an outspoken critic of Israel in the past, called the offensive “a massacre.”
The diplomatic moves signaled that the three Latin American nations were joining many Muslim nations including Turkey and Malaysia in criticizing Israel. On Wednesday, Jordan recalled its ambassador to protest the war.
Netanyahu’s government has remained undeterred, saying Hamas poses an existential threat in the wake of an Oct. 7 attack that killed 1,400 Israelis. Hamas is designated a terrorist group by the US and the European Union.
In posts on X, Israel Foreign Ministry spokesman Lior Haiat said Bolivia’s decision to cut ties is a “surrender to terrorism.” Haiat called on Colombia and Chile to “explicitly condemn the Hamas terrorist organization, which slaughtered and abducted babies, children, women and the elderly.”
“Israel expects Colombia and Chile to support the right of a democratic country to protect its citizens,” Haiat wrote.
The decisions of Chile and Colombia to step up their criticism against Israel come only hours before Boric and Petro are expected to meet US President Joe Biden in Washington for a regional summit. Biden has argued Israel has the right to defend itself against Hamas, while also saying Netanyahu must avoid civilian casualties.
Brazil, Mexico and Argentina, the three largest countries in the region which are also run by leftists, have taken a more tempered approach as they’ve evacuated citizens from the region and tried to deescalate the conflict. Still, they have not shied from criticizing Israel’s response.
Lula denounced Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack as an “act of terrorism,” but last week said Israel’s action in Gaza “was not a war, but a genocide.” Brazil, which held the monthlong presidency of the UN Security Council in October when the conflict broke, put forth a resolution calling for a pause in the conflict to allow humanitarian aid access to Gaza. But the US vetoed it.
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That in the 1970s, when western demographics were totally different.Bob Butler wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:08 am Typically when an Arab organization attacks Israel, they end up losing territory. That is how Israel expands. If that is accepted, will Hezbollah attack Israel? If the war is going to expand, that seems the most probable place. Thing is, Israel expanding into areas with greater Palestinian population than Jewish is bad juju if Israel is pretending to be a democracy. It may be like the West Bank. You can't allow an overt military develop, but you can't give the population votes either. The result is a quasi state. Apartheid by any other name?
Iran has been pushing proxies, but has no border with Israel, thus is in less of a position to lose territory. They are instigating incidents with the US, which is balancing retaliation to discourage attacks with a desire not to escalate. At a guess, this will continue but not result in much.
There is a lot of international disapproval of Israel's ignoring Hamas human shield tactics. If Hamas wants Israel to kill Palestinian civilians, Israel seems willing. So far there seem few or no calls for sanctions, but that seems to be the next step. That might be something to watch.
The world has changed. You should wake up and realize that you are not living in the country you were born in.
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1968-2013: 8.5 million Central American immigrants entered America, and stayed.
2020-2023: 8.5 million Central American immigrants have entered America and stayed, so far.
Joe Biden has imported 250 years of Hispanic migrants in to the USA in three years.
God help us.
2020-2023: 8.5 million Central American immigrants have entered America and stayed, so far.
Joe Biden has imported 250 years of Hispanic migrants in to the USA in three years.
God help us.
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** 03-Nov-2023 World View: Israel-Hamas war
The IDF (Israel Defense Force) has
surrounded Gaza City, and has begun to
destroy the Hamas government
infrastructure, including hundreds of
miles of tunnels. This may take several
weeks or months, if possible at all.
Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of the
Lebanese terror militia Hezbollah, gave
a fiery televised speech on Friday
evening, threatening a wider war in the
Mideast, and threatening to bring the
war to America.
A large far left segment of the Democrat
party, led by "The Squad," is strongly
pressuring the Biden administration to
stop aiding Israel, and to pressure
Israel to agree to a "pause" or a
"ceasefire," which give Hamas a major
political victory.
It's expected that tens of thousands of
pro-Hamas anti-Jew anti-Israel
anti-American protesters will be in
Washington DC on Saturday. There will
be similar pro-Hamas protests in other
American cities, and in cities around
the world.
Protester placards are expected to
display things like the following:
Mideast, as Winston Churchill would say.
The IDF (Israel Defense Force) has
surrounded Gaza City, and has begun to
destroy the Hamas government
infrastructure, including hundreds of
miles of tunnels. This may take several
weeks or months, if possible at all.
Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of the
Lebanese terror militia Hezbollah, gave
a fiery televised speech on Friday
evening, threatening a wider war in the
Mideast, and threatening to bring the
war to America.
A large far left segment of the Democrat
party, led by "The Squad," is strongly
pressuring the Biden administration to
stop aiding Israel, and to pressure
Israel to agree to a "pause" or a
"ceasefire," which give Hamas a major
political victory.
It's expected that tens of thousands of
pro-Hamas anti-Jew anti-Israel
anti-American protesters will be in
Washington DC on Saturday. There will
be similar pro-Hamas protests in other
American cities, and in cities around
the world.
Protester placards are expected to
display things like the following:
- Kill the Jews
- Gas the Jews
- From the River to the Sea (meaning,
destroy the entire state of Israel, and
wipe out all Jews) - From Palestine to Mexico, border
walls have got to go. (in order to
permit Hezbollah and Iranian militias to
enter America undetected)
Mideast, as Winston Churchill would say.
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I think this war should be viewed in the way many in the street view it: as a racial conflict, a race war.
Go through Telegram (an uncensored social media platform) and see what is being posted.
A Mexican-(American) posted two photos online, one of a pro-Palestinian march in London and the other of a pro-Israel march in London on the same day. The Pro-Palestinian march was mostly people of color. Under the snow white crowd supporting Israel the poster wrote: WHITE AF.
The Gaza war is a race war. People should realize this. The religious argument is bunk, and it always has been.
Go through Telegram (an uncensored social media platform) and see what is being posted.
A Mexican-(American) posted two photos online, one of a pro-Palestinian march in London and the other of a pro-Israel march in London on the same day. The Pro-Palestinian march was mostly people of color. Under the snow white crowd supporting Israel the poster wrote: WHITE AF.
The Gaza war is a race war. People should realize this. The religious argument is bunk, and it always has been.
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Difference
The instinct is to hate, oppress and kill those that are different. The differences include, race, religion and tribe. Rather than choosing one, I'd be inclusive. One also cannot forget territory. Each thought of the area as theirs for thousands of years.
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