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but ... but ... the Holocaust!Okayy wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:01 am The World is Watching, israel has done itself irreparable damage...
as it circles the toilet bowl.
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/pent ... gic-defeat
Here's where we agree, John. I think the start of the larger kinetic war, whatever that means in the age of communication/information wars and proxy wars that we've seen recently, will be Israel vs Iran, because I know for a fact that that has been a desired war by the elite for at least 15 years. You can believe me or not, I don't care. But if you don't know that covid was planned and a farce, I don't care, because you have no clue of what's going on in the world in general.John wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:28 pm ** 04-Dec-2023 World View: Gaza war at a turning point
The Generational Dynamics prediction has
always been a genocidal Mideast war
pitting Israelis against Arabs, Sunnis
against Shias, and various ethnic groups
against each other.
The week-long "humanitarian pause" has
just ended. Israel has mostly cleaned
up the northern half of Gaza, having
destroyed as much of the tunnel complex
as possible. The Hamas officials and
their terrorist fighters have fled to
the south, as have large masses of
civilians.
Israel has announced that it will now
move operations to the south. Israel is
being told by the Biden administration,
by the United Nations, and by various
European nations that it's OK for Israel
to defend itself, that it's OK for
Israel to destroy Hamas, but that it's
NOT OK to kill civilians, since doing so
will inflame millions of Palestinians in
Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and other
countries throughout the region,
resulting in a regional Mideast war.
If Israel destroys Hamas, then many
civilians will be killed, as "collateral
damage," and there will be a regional
Mideast war. On the other hand, if
Israel doesn't destroy Hamas, then Hamas
officials have promised that they will
repeat the October 7 attack over and
over until all Jews are killed and
Israel is wiped out, so there will be a
regional Mideast war. So there will be
a major Mideast war, no matter what
Israel does.
This is a good example of a Generational
Dynamics prediction. Generational
Dynamics predicts a major Mideast war,
without predicting the scenario or time
frame. This example shows how either of
the major most likely scenarios leads to
the same conclusion.
Barry, what do you make of Neil Howe talking about the 4th turning but not actually saying anything?mannfm11 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:26 am John, good to see you are still with us. I noticed you hadn't written anything on the home page for a good while. I think about this page when I note how crazy things have gotten. People like Steve Bannon speak of the 4th turning. We are clearly there.
Barry
It's all unraveling. Hopefully America will survive, push out the illegals, and secure its borders.Guest wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:06 pmThere will be a "compromise candidate" but one that satisfies no one except the pro-Israel lobby. The problem is that America's demographics and youth culture have changed radically in the last twenty years. Wokery has ruined the US military. Feminism has ruined the young generations. Critical Race Theory has destroyed the youngest generation. America has polarized. The far right doesn't support Israel; neither does the far left. I don't think there is a center left in western societies. Open Borders have changed the urban landscapes into no-go zones. Europe will explode because of this.Navigator wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:39 pm Neither Lincoln nor Churchill was considered "great" when they initially assumed their leadership responsibilities.
And, in fact, for both of them, their initial efforts looked like disasters. But they were both willing to stay the course and enable the fight against evil until victory was secured.
There are alternatives out there, usually quiet and unassuming people, who right now are not in the spotlight.
Someone, hopefully, will become a viable "compromise" candidate.
There will be no 9/11 response. The first time around led to bankrupting disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan. These wars accomplished nothing. Unless you consider bankrupting the US and flooding Europe with millions of Arabs an accomplishment.
CNBC doesn't seem to understand that the pro-Israel message being pored out onto the airwaves no longer resonates with half of the country at all, zero, nada. And the half that does respond does so mildly. A lukewarm response is the best that can be expected from a bankrupt and besieged American people overwhelmed by open borders and sky high inflation. The bullying by Jewish billionaires at Harvard is not going down well on social media. People see this as dangerous and extreme.
I, for one, see this war in the Middle East as a clash between desert religions and desert people that I want nothing, nothing! to do with. Why is what goes on in Israel matter to me? Israel is not a real democracy, Israel is theocracy. I'm not welcome there, why should i care? Why are we pouring billions of dollars of my taxpayer money into a country that represents 1% of the population? Both sides in this conflict are barbaric. Both sides! Why do I have to send more of my family off to fight in wars that none of us care about. Israel doesn't even have oil. I see no strategic interest there. I see a massive liability.
Screw the Ukraine too!
Civilian casualties are unavoidable because Hamas forces the civilians to stay and act as human shields. It's regrettable if any truly neutral civilians die, but, because of Hamas' barbarous third-world tactics, it's unavoidable if Israel is to survive. Blood of the innocents is on the hands of Hamas, no one else. This is all very clear to anyone with an ounce of sense, but many don't care.Okayy wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:01 am The World is Watching, israel has done itself irreparable damage...
as it circles the toilet bowl.
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/pent ... gic-defeat
Thanks, Bibi.spottybrowncow wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:47 amCivilian casualties are unavoidable because Hamas forces the civilians to stay and act as human shields. It's regrettable if any truly neutral civilians die, but, because of Hamas' barbarous third-world tactics, it's unavoidable if Israel is to survive. Blood of the innocents is on the hands of Hamas, no one else. This is all very clear to anyone with an ounce of sense, but many don't care.Okayy wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:01 am The World is Watching, israel has done itself irreparable damage...
as it circles the toilet bowl.
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/pent ... gic-defeat
Extremely bad optics. The MSM, now irrelevant, has been totally eclipsed by social media and the elites have lost control of the narrative. Demographic changes are huge, thanks to the open borders crowd. The Arab street knows how powerful it is and a new generation is taking over. Israel can't survive isolated in the ME with an imploding and greatly weakened West.Cool Breeze wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:58 pm Israel was always a bad idea, but I'm curious (since no one will answer) what the theory is on how they "lose" here.
They're all about creating reasons and claiming all manner of victimhood etc to justify what they do. Here is no exception. They have dual citizens that vote with other countries treasuries to send/grift money. I don't see any losing here, at all.
It appears that they might be overreacting just like we did after 9/11. But Hamas certainly at least shares the blame for civilian casualties.spottybrowncow wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:47 amCivilian casualties are unavoidable because Hamas forces the civilians to stay and act as human shields. It's regrettable if any truly neutral civilians die, but, because of Hamas' barbarous third-world tactics, it's unavoidable if Israel is to survive. Blood of the innocents is on the hands of Hamas, no one else. This is all very clear to anyone with an ounce of sense, but many don't care.Okayy wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:01 am The World is Watching, israel has done itself irreparable damage...
as it circles the toilet bowl.
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/pent ... gic-defeat