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Bob Butler
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Information Age Crisis?

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FullMoon wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:18 pm Life as normal became war life as normal. They were lucky to emerge into a better world. We don't necessarily think that's a high probability.
Yes, few indeed remember the last Industrial Age crisis. But you still have to remember that none have lived through an Information Age crisis. Nukes make all out war not cost effective, so the autocrats are tippy toeing. Putin is teetering on the edge of losing his war and his status. China has impossible economic problems that make a sea war with the US seem feasible. Trump is in the process of creating our own economic collapse to rival the others. The Middle East is being the Middle East. The Jews have embraced racist genocide, which was the whole excuse for conquest of Muslim land in the first place. The Muslims haven’t the gumption for revolution against their autocrats.

Fourth Turning crisis theory put together a pretty good idea of how things flowed during the Information Age. Autocrats thought their military cultures could impose on industrial cultures and found they were wrong. (Napoleon and Hitler are the classic examples.) That lesson may or may not hold this time around. What is newer is that the economic collapse(s) are happening all around. (Trump, Xi, Putin.). Going to war during an economic collapse will be the new thing. Last time, war was the way out of the economic collapse. While I don’t see an invasion of the US across the Atlantic or Pacific, continuing the other conflicts may seem necessary for various autocrats to cling to power. One possibility is an EMP burst, a high altitude nuke knocking out considerable electronic and power infrastructure, making the economic collapses even worse.

But we are definitely treading new ground. The best resolution would be deciding that racism and conquest are counterproductive. I’m not holding my breath. You have to prove the theories wrong before you get rid of them.
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https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1935054120567848996
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NEW: Exiled crown prince of Iran Reza Pahlavi says the Islamic Republic has "come to an end," says what has begun is irreversible.

Pahlavi ripped Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei for hiding like a "scared mouse."

"The Islamic Republic has come to an end and is falling. What has begun is irreversible. The future is bright and together we will navigate this sharp turn in history. Now is the time to stand; it is time to take back Iran. May I be with you soon."
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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We don't need to review the list of attempts at American "regime change" and the ratio of success vs failure.

100% failure rate and that's even when somewhat qualified and capable personnel were involved.

Now we have both unqualified, unproven and incapable liars who have agendas that are not what they tell the country.

I wonder if anyone who served in previous failures conducted by lying politicians and were disabled, experienced the death of fellow soldiers and experienced the horror of war whilst the leaders who sent them were enriched and completely without recourse or accountability. I wonder if they regret supporting what's belatedly known to be a lie resulting in death and national degradation, but at the time seemed the "thing" to do. I wonder if they could be tricked once again, this time.

John was always so depressed because human beings had such pitiful lack of ability to correctly understand the mistakes of history and such strong emotive drive towards violence and war. The "fog" of war requires building a fear and hate feeling so that mass murder is considered acceptable.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 025-06-17/

Speaking to reporters outside the White House, Trump declined to say whether he had made any decision on whether to join Israel's bombing campaign against arch-enemy Iran.

"I may do it. I may not do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do," he said

If the "bad guys " are ruled by unpredictable dictators who use Force to get their way, ummm, yeah. Trump thinks he's good at bluffing by acting tough or is he really an insane psychopath who doesn't even know what he himself will do. Isn't his finger on the nuclear button? No wonder they had to shepard him so closely during his last administration. And now he's a senile and confused person not much better than Biden. Any religion that needs violence to get a desired result is not a good religion, obviously. And now they each want violence for their expected outcome. The devil is having a field day.
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