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Let's say the stock market doesn't go to a new high for the year and ends up crashing. My plan is to buy a small farm.

Specifically, after the crash of 2008, many people headed out to the hinterlands thinking it was all over. Many of those people are now old and exhausted, and when the crash happens some will be broke if they aren't already. The huge sucking sound coming out of Washington and New York has devastated rural areas for 10 years and more. What I will be looking for is a place where the fruit trees have been planted, the soil has been built up, etc., over the past 10 years.

Something like this:
https://permies.com/t/78776/Permacultur ... wan-Canada

So, have you actually taken the Peasant Permaculture Design Course?

https://richsoil.com/ppdc.jsp

If not, then you'd better hurry -- it starts next week.

Eight years ago I felt collapse was imminent. I have expended too much time worrying about it, and numerous scenarios which might take place.....rapid economic collapse, pandemic such as ebola, nuclear war with North Korea, the slow Marxist march that the blue cities continue, the decay of once vibrant cities such as Baltimore (where I lived for a few years), the onslaught of migrants from the Americas and call for "diversity" forced upon the white Anglo-Saxon male; the list goes on. (Makes me think of the Sonny and Cher song "The Beat Goes On").

And I think of the slow collapses of past civilizations, the Roman empire fell for generations, into the Dark Ages; the changes in weather patterns that forced Central American civilizations to collapse, changes in weather patterns that changed the face of western U.S. nomadic Indian tribes and collapse of their tribes.......The Beat Goes On and On and On.......

The one overriding concern to me, is the population growth of China, India, Africa, etc. War must occur to lessen the now parabolic growth. Also, a few years ago I stated my concern that the economy is too weak to afford continued price inflation of petroleum energy versus the consequences of cheap petroleum energy (which will be unaffordable to produce, so no new production will come on line at some point).

So, in my ramblings, I continually consider "What country would I move to if I had nothing to tie me to where I am?" Chile is on my list, but Europe, Asia, Africa, and most of Central and South America fail my criteria and comfort level. Sadly, I am an ugly America. (An Italian girlfriend once told me so as we traveled in Italy.) Canada is too cold. I looked at establishing a farmstead in west Texas, eastern New Mexico, western Kansas.....away from population centers. My wife could never cope in such a rural environment, and, as she is of liberal leanings, it is futile to discuss collapse with her. Therefore, I just store more popcorn, quit worrying about collapse as I realize how fast the last 10 years have gone by, and am in the process of establishing a "hunting cabin resort" to be "rented" to hunters during various hunting seasons on nearby land. Numerous oil and gas wells are in the vicinity, and in the event of economic collapse and/or civilization collapse, petroleum energy will be available for heat/cooling/cooking (which, really, is all we really need).

Get off the gerbil treadmill, quit trying to make money to feed the government, pet your dog, enjoy sunrise and sunset, appreciate watching deer in the evenings, don't buy new cars, watch shooting stars at night, realize that most health information that you learned growing up is wrong, all advertising for medication is nothing but lies, don't eat as much as you want to, visit with your neighbors, and watch horse racing.

Where did THAT come from?

Higgie says that you should meet a rich (or well-to-do) girl in Chile
or Namibia and move in with her.

John wrote:So, have you actually taken the Peasant Permaculture Design Course?

https://richsoil.com/ppdc.jsp

If not, then you'd better hurry -- it starts next week.

My grandmother was an expert gardener before the word permaculture existed. Both sets of grandparents owned farms. My father's father was raised breaking wild horses on the plains of Nebraska and farmed his whole life. My father grew up on the farm and I visited as a child. It had an outhouse and a well with a hand pump. We had a garden and I probably read every issue or Organic Gardening and Farming Magazine for 10 years and practiced it as a child. I know my stuff.

John wrote:Higgie says that you should meet a rich (or well-to-do) girl in Chile
or Namibia and move in with her.

Everyone's skill set and resources are different. A 26 year old Millennial male should seriously consider those options if he thinks we are heading for total nuclear war. I don't think we are, so the northern hemisphere suits me just fine.

Joining the Peace Corps and taking a multi year stint in Namibia might also be a great option for a person with that profile.

What would be the safest countries if WW3 broke out?

Juan Carlos
Juan Carlos, studied at Engineers
Answered May 3, 2017 · Author has 508 answers and 87.6k answer views

The safest countries will be in the southern hemisphere, in no particular order it should be Australia, New Zealand, perhaps some areas of Namibia (nowhere else in Africa), south of Chile and South of Argentina (forget the rest of South America).

The selection however, should also take into account particulars of an end times condition: avoid big cities, when scarcity hit them, it will be riots and probable the foreigners will be soft targets together with the elderly, the lonely and the very young. Go or stay in a place where you can have a community for protection, friends and family. If you are on your own in a foreign country, with language problems and with no friend or community to belong to, then probably you won't make it.

https://www.quora.com/What-would-be-the ... -broke-out

Mr. Carlos appears to be a very smart man. Or maybe he just agrees with me. Or maybe I'm Mr. Carlos.

jcsok wrote:Eight years ago I felt collapse was imminent.

My strategy was to sit tight until the financial system totally unravels and the bankruptcies roll in. When it really does unravel, you'll see things like houses being auctioned off for no minimum bid. Parts of Texas may be OK. Texas was my choice for the long bumpy plateau that has been going on the past 13 years. There are 6 deer for every human in Llano County and surrounding area. Not my skill set, but it might be yours, or you can make it yours.

Everybody knows about Australia and New Zealand. The problem with those countries is you need several hundred thousand of investment commitment to get in (well, that's the easy way to get in) and my assumption was that a 26 year old Millennial male would not be able to meet that commitment. But if he could, those countries would be OK. I don't think they'd be markedly better, as they carry their own risks.

For someone looking for a non nuclear war option, has good resistance to cold, and rural living skills, living near a Hutterite community may be a good option. There are Hutterite communities scattered through North Dakota, Montana, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba, as I best recall.