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** 22-Jun-2019 Suicide rate increasing

Higgenbotham wrote: > Something Isn't Right In The "Greatest Economy Ever" As American
> Suicide Rates Hit WWII Levels

> The suicide rate increased by 1% per year from 2000 through 2006,
> and by 2% from 2006 through 2016, which now means suicide rates
> are at their highest level since World War II.

> More than 70,000 people committed suicide in 2017, and 17.3
> million, or 7%, of Americans, are experiencing mental health
> issues. As we have shown in past reports, life expectancy has also
> declined for three straight years, in part because of the surge in
> drug overdoses and suicides.

> https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06- ... wii-levels

> While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the
> capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and
> violently.

With a world war approaching, it's not surprising that the suicide
rate is increasing. Those who commit suicide are judged as cowards,
desesperados, heroes or martyrs, depending on the circumstances and
who's making the judgment. With a world war approaching, the number
of suicides in all four categories should be increasing.

So the suicide rate is increasing, and the birth rate is decreasing.
Less cannon fodder. After the war ends, there will be a new baby
boom, and it will all start again.

Tom Mazanec wrote:I will be vacationing next week, so just a reminder that you can get most of the links I post from the Breaking News of Dollar Collapse blog (but links only stay for a day or two).

good reads, thanks for the links

John wrote:** 22-Jun-2019 Suicide rate increasing

Higgenbotham wrote: > Something Isn't Right In The "Greatest Economy Ever" As American
> Suicide Rates Hit WWII Levels

> The suicide rate increased by 1% per year from 2000 through 2006,
> and by 2% from 2006 through 2016, which now means suicide rates
> are at their highest level since World War II.

> More than 70,000 people committed suicide in 2017, and 17.3
> million, or 7%, of Americans, are experiencing mental health
> issues. As we have shown in past reports, life expectancy has also
> declined for three straight years, in part because of the surge in
> drug overdoses and suicides.

> https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06- ... wii-levels

> While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the
> capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and
> violently.

With a world war approaching, it's not surprising that the suicide
rate is increasing. Those who commit suicide are judged as cowards,
heroes or martyrs, depending on the circumstances and who's making the
judgment. With a world war approaching, the number of suicides in all
three categories should be increasing.

So the suicide rate is increasing, and the birth rate is decreasing.
Less cannon fodder. After the war ends, there will be a new baby
boom, and it will all start again.

I think implicit in your comment "with a world war approaching" is that the rest of the ugliness associated with the typical approach of fourth turning warfare is already upon us (poor economy, a dark foreboding as stated in the Fourth Turning book, etc.). I was just at the grocery store and had the following conscious thoughts as I walked through the store:

1. There was virtually nothing to buy that could be considered a bargain. Prices for equivalent items were roughly 4 times what they were 30 years ago and salaries aren't even double.

2. Kids looked malnourished and in worse shape than their parents, and certainly looked less healthy than kids did 30 and 40 years ago.

Speaking of the collapsing birthrate, I recently got confirmation that I will be a father for the first time. I will be 58 years old when the child is born. The reasons I waited this long are:

1. I don't want my kids to be cannon fodder in a war, though it is certainly possible they could die in the war anyway.

2. If they do survive, by having been born near the low in the birthrate, they will have better economic and other opportunities. It's always advantageous to be part of the smaller cohort.

** 22-Jun-2019 Daddy Higgenbotham

Higgenbotham wrote: > Speaking of the collapsing birthrate, I recently got confirmation
> that I will be a father for the first time. I will be 58 years
> old when the child is born. The reasons I waited this long are:

> 1. I don't want my kids to be cannon fodder in a war, though it is
> certainly possible they could die in the war anyway.

> 2. If they do survive, by having been born near the low in the
> birthrate, they will have better economic and other
> opportunities. It's always advantageous to be part of the smaller
> cohort.

Congratulations!!!

So does this alter your attitude about a new dark age?

John wrote:** 22-Jun-2019 Daddy Higgenbotham

Higgenbotham wrote: > Speaking of the collapsing birthrate, I recently got confirmation
> that I will be a father for the first time. I will be 58 years
> old when the child is born. The reasons I waited this long are:

> 1. I don't want my kids to be cannon fodder in a war, though it is
> certainly possible they could die in the war anyway.

> 2. If they do survive, by having been born near the low in the
> birthrate, they will have better economic and other
> opportunities. It's always advantageous to be part of the smaller
> cohort.

Congratulations!!!

So does this alter your attitude about a new dark age?

No, not at all, except that I really hope now that the brunt of the collapse happens soon instead of my kids seeing the current fucked up state of the world (consumerism, social media, etc.) and coming to think it's normal. I timed it as best as I could with the idea that the world as we know it will no longer exist when the kid is aware of what is going on. So I've got about 2 years (baby is due in early January 2020).

Sons of true love and sons of regret
All of the sons you cannot forget
Some built the roads, some wrote the poems
Some went to war, some never came home
Sons of your sons or sons passing by
Children we lost in lullabies...

Sons of the thief, sons of the saint
Who is the child with no complaint
Sons of the great or sons unknown
All were children like your own
The same sweet smiles, the same sad tears
The cries at night, the nightmare fears
Sons of the great or sons unknown
All were children like your own...
-- Jacques Brel

The one thing it did alter is bot smashing will be my only trading activity going forward. Which means lots and lots of small and very short term trades that have high probability.

Higgenbotham wrote:Speaking of the collapsing birthrate, I recently got confirmation that I will be a father for the first time. I will be 58 years old when the child is born. The reasons I waited this long are:

1. I don't want my kids to be cannon fodder in a war, though it is certainly possible they could die in the war anyway.

2. If they do survive, by having been born near the low in the birthrate, they will have better economic and other opportunities. It's always advantageous to be part of the smaller cohort.

Congrats!

Makes sense if a child survives the coming war and is in the winning country the economic boom they will experience in their prime working years would be a great time to be alive.

On the other hand, knowing what's coming I can't imagine the stress of having a family to care for when the nuclear war disrupts the supply chains. When the trucks stop bringing food to your local grocery stores, you still have a wife and children to feed and protect. Are you setup to do this? Do you have the skills to survive off what your environment will provide?

You are highly intelligent Higgy. The world needs more children from people like you and less from the welfare and third world invaders. I'm sure you will be able to make it work.

Congrats again.

tim wrote:On the other hand, knowing what's coming I can't imagine the stress of having a family to care for when the nuclear war disrupts the supply chains. When the trucks stop bringing food to your local grocery stores, you still have a wife and children to feed and protect. Are you setup to do this? Do you have the skills to survive off what your environment will provide?

Mostly the answer to this is yes, but there are no guarantees. Timing is a potential problem. If no medical care is available come January, that could be a problem, but we are making provisions for that possibility. If a pandemic sweeps through sooner rather than later, that will be a problem for everyone, everywhere, and I am not prepared for it at present because I think it will come later after the population is worn down. Food is not so much of a problem in terms of making it available, but what worries me more is desperate, hungry people and it's not known for how long that will be a problem.