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The House and Senate have now both passed bills supporting HK and threatening to cancel HK's special trade partner status along with a host of other punishments for the Peking bigwigs that run that mainland mafia state. It was passed unanimously by both houses. Not even Trump can override this bill.

This whole situation is amazing to me. Before Trump could you imagine both houses of Congress passing a resolution (by unanimous consent, no less!) that would even HINT at having a disagreement with or, God forbid, mildly pushing back on China for ANYTHING? I sure can't. These people used to go out of their way to never say or do anything that could even possibly be construed as rebuffing China in any way. THE TIDE HAS TURNED AGAINST CHINA. No matter who wins in 2020, the new cold war is on. Are maybe it will just be war. Perhaps a war even before we reach election day.

There won't be any trade "deals" until after China's collapse (or defeat).

If China collapses there won't be any trade deal, it will likely be a war.

Guest wrote:If China collapses there won't be any trade deal, it will likely be a war.

Many things are going wrong for China, which means that China is
increasingly trapped and desperate. This makes China very, very
dangerous.

Warren Pollock – China: The New Nazis of Our Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-MKWSohv4Y

LOL, to the Notion of a Fascist China vs a Communist US. Sorry the rest of us live on planet earth. China vs US fight would be a Capitalist America vs a Communist China.

China is a communist state ruled by the communist party. The US is capitalist, Europe is socialist but that is social democracy not communism.

** 20-Nov-2019 World View: BBC reports torture of British consulate employee

The BBC this morning is reporting a horrific story about how Simon
Cheng, a former British consulate employee in Hong Kong, was abducted,
jailed, blindfolded and tortured for 15 days, during an August trip to
China.

Cheng had been collecting information about the Hong Kong protesters
on assignment from the British consulate in Hong Kong.

The CCP frequently arrests and tortures foreign visitors to China, but
this was a particularly egregious situation because of Cheng's
connection to the UK consulate.

The UK foreign secretary Dominic Raab said he was "shocked and
appalled" by what happened, and summoned the Chinese ambassador to
demand an explanation. China's foreign ministry has reportedly said
that it's ambassador would "refuse the invitation."

That's really hilarious since China's foreign ministry at the same
time has just summoned a US diplomat, William Klein, to threaten
retaliation if Donald Trump signs the Hong Kong "Human Rights and
Democracy" bill that the Senate passed unanimously on Tuesday.

The House of Representatives has passed its own bill, and the two will
have to be reconciled before the bill can be sent to Trump for
signature. However, the bill has passed with more than enough votes
so that a Trump veto would be overridden. It thus seems almost
certain that, one way or another, the bill will become law.

Hong Kong enjoys a special U.S. trading consideration that bolsters
its status as a world financial center. The bill threatens to remove
this special consideration if China violates human rights in Hong
Kong. It also provides for sanctions against officials responsible
for human rights violations in Hong Kong.

The Senate then passed a second bill, also unanimously, that would ban
the export of certain munitions to Hong Kong police forces. It bans
the export of items such as tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets and
stun guns.

On Wednesday, China's foreign ministry spokesman said the following:

"On November 19, the US Senate passed the Hong Kong
Human Rights and Democracy Act. This act neglects facts and truth,
applies double standards and blatantly interferes in Hong Kong
affairs and China's other internal affairs. It is in serious
violation of international law and basic norms governing
international relations. China condemns and firmly opposes
it."

It's always hilarious when the CCP foreign ministry sleazebags accuse
anyone of violating international law, since they've made it clear
that international law doesn't apply to them or be obeyed by them (the
Master Race), and only applies to the rest of us, the barbarians.

Wednesday's news of the abduction, jailing, blindfolding and torture
of a former British consulate employee comes just a few days after the
news of the leak of hundreds of top secret Chinese documents on the
jailings and enslavement of millions of Uighurs.

** 18-Nov-19 World View -- Trove of leaked China documents detail jailing of Xinjiang's Muslim Uighurs
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e191118

John Xenakis is author of: "World View: War Between China and Japan:
Why America Must Be Prepared" (Generational Theory Book Series, Book
2) Paperback: 331 pages, over 200 source references, $13.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1732738637/


---- Sources:

-- Simon Cheng: Former UK consulate worker says he was tortured in
China
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50457262
(BBC, 20-Nov-2019)

-- Senate unanimously passes Hong Kong 'Human Rights and Democracy'
bill
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... l-n1086401
(Reuters, 20-Nov-2019)

-- Simon Cheng / Former UK official in Hong Kong 'tortured in 15-day
China ordeal'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... ina-ordeal
(Guardian, London, 20-Nov-2019)

-- Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Geng Shuang's Remarks on US Senate
Passing Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_6 ... 6773.shtml
(China Foreign Ministry, 20-Nov-2019)

-- China summons US diplomat, vows to retaliate if Donald Trump signs
Hong Kong democracy act into law
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... kong-human
(South China Morning Post, Hong Kong, 20-Nov-2019)

Michael Snyder's take on the China vote in Congress:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... same-again

Seems like things are moving forward at full throttle. I can feel it in my gut. In 1992, I thought the prospect of dying in a nuclear war had finally disappeared. Now it seems more inevitable than ever. I hope I die instantly.

Guest wrote:

FishbellykanakaDude wrote:

Guest wrote:
You obviously haven't been to Serbia or Montenegro.

Can you expand on that?

I don't think it's necessary for the guest to do so. Even I am aware of what they have done.

I'm quite happy that you know that stuff that Guest knows, but Guest apparently knows something that I don't know and, even though you know it, it's not universal knowledge.

Actually though, I was most interested in how a supposed "poisonous cult" in Serbia/Montenegro might be similar to the "poisonous cult" that John describes being in China.

Apparently, Guest knows how they're similar. I thought we were in here to converse about such things?

Yes guest (whichever one you are). Tell all.
And I would like to be vaporized, too, but after a few hours warning so I can get my soul into as good a shape as I can.