11-Jun-14 World View -- Iraq in major crisis / Mosul falls

[NoOneImportant]

https://www.ldsavow.com/PrepManualGeneral.html

[vincecate]

[...] As for Anguilla going unscathed? [...] The Mormons have been espousing self-sufficency for a very long time.

I just said that Anguilla would not be ground zero and would have less fallout than most places. I am not under the delusion that it will be unscathed. I am an ex-mormon and have been thinking/working toward self-sufficiency for a long time. I have been in Anguilla for 20 years.

The national sport here is sailboat racing.

I added solar/electric to a sailboat. http://blog.floatingislands.com
Also working on a design for living on the ocean using solar electric and really stable boat design.

Dug out a cave that might work as a fallout shelter: http://offshore.ai/vince/cave

[NoOneImportant]

vincecate wrote:

I just said that Anguilla would not be ground zero and would have less fallout than most places. I am not under the delusion that it will be unscathed. I am an ex-mormon and have been thinking/working toward self-sufficiency for a long time. I have been in Anguilla for 20 years.

The national sport here is sailboat racing.

I added solar/electric to a sailboat. http://blog.floatingislands.com
Also working on a design for living on the ocean using solar electric and really stable boat design.

Dug out a cave that might work as a fallout shelter: http://offshore.ai/vince/cave

If you've acquired some fire arms then you've been doing all the right things. Down load the book, the Red Cross sheet is a good start. But as you already know, if you are in fact, doing what you say you already know what we're talking about is a view of the world, a mind set. Prior to the advent of commercial refrigerators in the late 40s everyone put up supplies; and prior to the enormous urbanization of WW-II everyone had a storm/root cellar for long term food storage.

Regarding the cave, perhaps this might be helpful - http://www.ki4u.com/guide.htm

[Guest]

I have lived in two Caribbean countries-neither of which I would want stay in for vey long. Like the poster stated, virtually everything is imported: medicine, electronics, cars, petrol, clothing, sometimes even food. Crime is bad on some of these islands. Really bad. And the poorest islander is all to ready to board a yola to another island. None of the islanders I met hit me as being able to "live off the land." As a matter of fact, minus the American charity organizations, they would probably die (naked and starving). I have never been to Anguilla, so maybe they are different (all self-contained units).

I can't think of a single reason I would want to survive a nuclear war.

[NoOneImportant]

Guest wrote:

I can't think of a single reason I would want to survive a nuclear war.

Life... it is precious, survive, and give you'rs to others. It's not that hard, read, print then watch the videos in the cave post above.

[Guest]

It's not as easy as saying you aren't downwind of targets so you won't have to worry about fallout. Fallout is thrown into the stratosphere and may circle the earth before it's brought down in a rainstorm. There is no predicting where it will come down, you better have a Geiger counter if it starts to rain after nukes have gone off.

[NoOneImportant]

Guest wrote:

It's not as easy as saying you aren't downwind of targets so you won't have to worry about fallout. Fallout is thrown into the stratosphere and may circle the earth before it's brought down in a rainstorm. There is no predicting where it will come down, you better have a Geiger counter if it starts to rain after nukes have gone off.

There is no trivializing fallout, but the most acute fallout risk is down dramatically within a couple of weeks of the initial event. While this video is dated (https://archive.org/details/AboutFal1963), it was done in 1963 when the country was much closer to the actual radiation research on damage to living organisms, we were also nose-to-nose, and eyeball-to-eyeball with a determined Soviet - you remember them, like the one in the WH - enemy who was not above using nuclear weapons. Fallout is real, but fallout is survivable, it isn't a death sentence, consult the video https://archive.org/details/AboutFal1963.

This link will give a bit of background on how the defeatist attitude we now are experiencing came to be: a http://www.ki4u.com/goodnews.htm. In short prepare; don't go crazy; but understand that we have a problem, but we have time, so do a little at a time - yes there will be problems, there would be problems if there were no nukes, there will always be problems, but life will go on - for those who just don't care and are just willing to check-out, I will do all that I am able to discourage that action, giving up never turns out well, but if they are adimant, I understand... but first I have a sensitive question: can I have your stuff? Sorry I just couldn't help myself... guess I am just not a sensitive guy. To get back to reality, download the Mormon's prepping book - and read it, read a chapter a week. Download and print the Nuke guide - http://www.ki4u.com/guide.pdf, print it 'cause if you ever need it you won't have time to print it; then view the items listed in the guide near the end especially the Nuclear War Survival Skills (NWSS) pdf file - http://www.ki4u.com/nwss.pdf. And after you've done all of that and you still want to check-out give me your address, and let me know when I can come for your stuff - and don't be giving away all the good stuff to your shiftless relatives.

Start small, just a little bit at a time, a little bit of dry food, some extra canned goods, a box or two of ammo two or three times a year; finish a 2 liter soda don't throw the bottle away, refill it with water and toss it it under the bed - nothing crazy, just a little at a time; there is a buying guide in the Nuke Guide (section #7) buy one or two items a month and salt them away. Over the months you will become informed, and stocked - information is crucial, you feel helpless because we've been told since 1989, the fall of the Soviet Union, that there will never ever be another bad guy. That wasn't reality, there are always bad guys, but a strong America put fear into their hearts; somebody elected a guy who thought America was a bad actor, so he proceeded to make America weak - we are now seeing the outcome of that kind of ignorance, and stupidity.

[Guest]

It's not as easy as saying you aren't downwind of targets so you won't have to worry about fallout. Fallout is thrown into the stratosphere and may circle the earth before it's brought down in a rainstorm. There is no predicting where it will come down, you better have a Geiger counter if it starts to rain after nukes have gone off.

For me the issue is not the radioactivity; it's the complete breakdown in law and order. I don't want to live in a Mad Max kind of world. Just watching The Road was bad enough. (However, the book was much better.)

[NoOneImportant]

Know what you mean. But there is an upside, you will no longer have to tolerate, and carry on endless conversations with the worthless in the name of civility... you can just plug 'em. "Worst case of radiation poisoning I ever saw..."

The world will be different, remake it in the light you desire... just remember Generational Dynamics. And for for certain don't let them mess it up again, remake it better than it was before, and whatever you do make the statement "... we have to do it for the children..." a capital offense, no trial, no nothing, just swing 'em from the nearest tree.

[Guest]

Know what you mean. But there is an upside, you will no longer have to tolerate, and carry on endless conversations with the worthless in the name of civility... you can just plug 'em. "Worst case of radiation poisoning I ever saw..."

The world will be different, remake it in the light you desire... just remember Generational Dynamics. And for for certain don't let them mess it up again, remake it better than it was before, and whatever you do make the statement "... we have to do it for the children..." a capital offense, no trial, no nothing, just swing 'em from the nearest tree.

"For the Kids" always appeared on posters and bumper stickers every time a school bond issue ever came up for a vote when I lived in the States. I always voted no.