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[vincecate]

** 28-Nov-2019 Vince Cate

> Are there any gold bugs, bulls or bears on this forum?

That would be vincecate (Vince Cate). He's contributed to the
forum off and on for several years. His web site is
http://www.gold.ai in Anguilla.

I like gold, silver, and Bitcoin. But I am fascinated by hyperinflation. I have lots on that at http://howfiatdies.blogspot.com

-- Vince

So I posted about Bitcoin in Nov 2019. I have been in it much longer but was not on the forum for a long spell. I have two Bitcoin ATMs and the domain http://bitcoin.ai which was registered long ago. But more than that, I organized a conference called "Financial Cryptography" back in 1997. See http://ifca.ai/fc97 Been interested in this Crypto space for a long time, not just because of the recent run up.

My fascination with hyperinflation drives my interest in gold and silver, and a good part of my Bitcoin interest as well.

[vincecate]

I just checked the stats on my hyperinflation blog and no extra activity yet. I have wondered if when we get close to hyperinflation time if my blog will get more views, so maybe it could be an early warning for me. No such alarm just yet.

To me there is a sort of generational forgetting of the problems of inflation, so it repeats. I was looking for something on that idea when I found Generational Dynamics site long ago.

[aeden]

Four months of looting, burning and disruption encouraged and enabled by Democrats to mangle small business
already on their knees. That is why the cowards surround themselves now in barbed wire.
Bright flight will accelerate. DXY, 10 year and gold will decide what we already know.
When imbecility, lies, immorality, BLM, corruption, democrats, leftist insanity are determined to destroy themselves... don't stand in the way.
Let it happen and keep your distance.

If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. mt10-14

Deflation cycle for zoo zones as they asset strip since Ricardo.
The wage structure's of large cities is known since Sumer

Morris's earlier book The Naked Ape, are two of the early works in the field of sociobiology,
which have both contributed much to contemporary understandings of society.

[richard5za]

Dear Higg and Cool,
I am not following the logic on the Doomsday arguement.
Say I don't believe in the doomsady scenario: That doesn't mean that Bitcoin will succeed. There must be other reasons for it to succeed or fail.
If I do believe in the doomsday scenario then that doesn't mean Bitcoin will succeed or fail any better than other asset classes. What if there is no doomsday internet or equivelent?
If I say Bitcoin will succeed because certain famously successful people believe this then we are assuming that the circumstances and logic that made them famous will prevail and cause them to be right on Bitcoin. But at the speed at which the world is changing is this a reasonable assumption?
And then we have the uncomfortable historical research that shows that economic and political experts are less accurate in their predictions than a dart throwing chimp. So maybe these famously successful people only have feet of clay?
In the case of this website we seem to have found a methodology which makes predictions easier, but of course there cannot be timing to the forecast!
One thing we can learn from history is that when there have been massive upwards valuations of assets, and this is coupled with impassioned arguements for and against then put your FOMO somewhere else (Fear Of Missing Out) and get the hell out of there

[aeden]

Assets of the dead do not speak.
Burn loot murder with lie cheat steal demsheviks are killing taxpayers.

In Brownsville, Texas, city officials said that six percent of the migrants being released at the bus station to obtain transportation into the U.S. interior are testing positive for COVID-19, Breitbart Texas reported. The Brownsville official said they do not have the authority to prevent those who test positive from boarding buses to travel into the U.S. interior.

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/0 ... -policies/

They are slaughtering the taxpayer in utter abject stupidity pissing themselves about not one weapon was found in the propaganda filth
hardening on the land hidden behind barbed wire.

Collapse is certain with the body farm. These idiots spend $61,000 for a soft wall enclosure per head called a tent.
Its been over as the EU and NATO MIC beamed in the tally with ABC traitors. The agency issue was warned of and ignored.
A grain colony that thought it made it to a civilization. It will be drawn and quartered like a slaughtered calf like the stone arch they worshipped.

Border zones are being overrun point blank and yes they had been warned but yea they will circle back and tell you lies.

A worker at the bus station told Fox News they cannot ask passengers for proof of coronavirus test results before transit. Cuellar added, “I urge the Biden Administration to listen and work with the communities on the southern border who are dealing with the surge of migrants.”

Utter contemptable fools.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced the deployment of the state’s National Guard and State Troopers to respond to the growing border crisis.
To late the disease is spread all over again from never let crisis go to waste.

This where we convey again into 2024 if we even make it past that point who knows.
The smart ones are and have left the blue kill zones as they pander to mad men that killed tens of thousands.

Meanwhile link him the story about McAfee and his Shitcoin "Ghost".
He is currently rotting in a cell in Spain. Tax or die in a cage is the only tool box they have.
Monopoly of violence is no concern. Same excuses I here since the epoch of the ice ages. You fight over mental trinkets.

I was told He is old and wants to give back. Fiat served the Gods they worshipped.

[aeden]

The argument is simple. One trillion is on table.
A legal way is available and the logic is at MIT for free as posted.
The rate was posted to weather the storm to productive assets funds.
They are all correct to debate Utility and Intrinsic value.
Now we get to property rights under the leadership of the damned and friendly
Bowie warned us of also.
When you print debt is does one fact to the working poor. They have to work harder for
those who do nothing in value added.

[John]

** 07-Mar-2021 World View: Collapse of civilization

Demarest once again.

https://soundcloud.com/bloomberg-busine ... s/odd-lots

25:06 Moderator: How quickly can it all collapse?

Arthur Demarest: Very quickly. It can happen very, very quickly. The
Maya Civilization was most spectacular at around 780 to 790, 785, and
by 810 it was just in pieces. 800 in a lot of places, so it can
happen really, really quickly. It's often happened slowly in one part
and then that reaches a critical point and then it just runs through
the whole system which is what happened also with the Maya.

The material you've posted from Arthur Demarest is very interesting,
but there's another side to it -- the recovery.

Let's take a relatively modern example, the German civilization. The
German nation was formed in the 1860s, and it reached its peak in
the 1930s. But like the Maya civilization it collapsed quickly.

By 1945, the German civilization was in pieces -- literally, since the
German nation had been split into four pieces. In 1945, all of
Germany's large cities and many midsized cities lay in ruins and
ashes. The allied bombs had been directed at civilians as well as
factories. Incendiary bombs had been used to devour people in flames.
Dresden was a particular target. Tens of millions of people were in
chaos, without homes, and barely with any hope of survival. So that
certainly fits Demarest's description of a civilization that had
collapsed.

But look what happened afterwards. Germany went through a Recovery Era,
and within 20 years was an economic powerhouse again. In 1991, East
and West Germany were reunited, and so you could almost say that German
civilization didn't collapse after all.

What Demarest is describing fits very well into the Generational Dynamics
template. A society or nation reaches a peak during the Unraveling
era or the first part of the Crisis era. Then a Regeneracy occurs,
and the society or nation goes into a full-scale crisis war.
A crisis war typically lasts around five years, and the losing side
can be destroyed very quickly, as Demarest says. But then there's
a Recovery Era and an Awakening Era, and before you know it, everything's
back the way it was.

[aeden]

Granted point. The posted numbers are ignored to actual activity.
The pivot is at hand, or not for many who listened to open border killers.
Like H we are short, long and shiny with a pasture of acreage decontaminated.
https://www.democracynow.org/2016/6/17/ ... _claims_to

And they did not read the energy departments reply to the sate either in collapse.
https://www.democracynow.org/2021/2/22/ ... rice_surge
Issued in Washington, D.C. at 8:51 PM Eastern Standard Time on this 14th day of February, 2021.
https://tnm.me/wp-content/uploads/2021/ ... 4.2021.pdf
Facts remain on this current cults ability to ignore what is already known.
Time to trot out the kiss strategy.
Bureaucratic ass covering mode will ramp up is all.


The actual condition is ignored also.
https://gerryha.gonevis.com/our-dying-planet/
At your age you may not have to think about it much longer.

Over $280T in debt outstanding, over one quadrillion in derivatives outstanding and neither will perform.
Go full Ramsey as boring get out the debt system or buy his basic book.
Or not since one condition cannot be fixed.

[aeden]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R ... s&_sacat=0

No we are not selling.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-10-2020 ... SwhkFgJwkm

lot 3 $125.81
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-3-2021- ... 1195.m1851
Limited quantity available 233 sold

As we see lots are rather interesting so to speak.

3:97 model will entertain fiat risk also since tally sticks and clay tablets

[Higgenbotham]

Dear Higg and Cool,
I am not following the logic on the Doomsday arguement.
Say I don't believe in the doomsady scenario: That doesn't mean that Bitcoin will succeed. There must be other reasons for it to succeed or fail.
If I do believe in the doomsday scenario then that doesn't mean Bitcoin will succeed or fail any better than other asset classes. What if there is no doomsday internet or equivelent?
If I say Bitcoin will succeed because certain famously successful people believe this then we are assuming that the circumstances and logic that made them famous will prevail and cause them to be right on Bitcoin. But at the speed at which the world is changing is this a reasonable assumption?
And then we have the uncomfortable historical research that shows that economic and political experts are less accurate in their predictions than a dart throwing chimp. So maybe these famously successful people only have feet of clay?
In the case of this website we seem to have found a methodology which makes predictions easier, but of course there cannot be timing to the forecast!
One thing we can learn from history is that when there have been massive upwards valuations of assets, and this is coupled with impassioned arguements for and against then put your FOMO somewhere else (Fear Of Missing Out) and get the hell out of there

"Doomsday" has little to do with whether Bitcoin will succeed or fail. That's a tangential issue that has been created to attack the messenger. "You're too pessimistic, that's your problem," with the implication that others who don't have that "problem" can see the correctness of the opposing position.

This is the type of thing I am talking about specifically:

This doomsday stuff has fried your noodle.

Bitcoin is just another bubble in an item that has no intrinsic value. My initial point was that Bitcoin is tulips. The direction of the forum from that point on could have been to ignore that post. It most likely would have been if Bitcoin was still languishing under $10,000. The direction of the forum could have been to discuss the bubbles in other items (IPOs, zombie companies, companies with no earnings, US Treasury Bonds and many others) or any other number of directions.