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Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 9:45 am
by Higgenbotham
John wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 9:12 am ** 20-May-2021 World View: Mocking the Fed
Higgenbotham wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 9:04 am > Collapse Anecdote of the Day

> This is from the Federal Reserve minutes just released.

> "A number of participants suggested that if the economy continued
> to make rapid progress toward the Committee's goals, it might be
> appropriate at some point in upcoming meetings to begin discussing
> a plan for adjusting the pace of asset purchases."

> https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetary ... 210428.htm

> There are two aspects of this. One is that this group of people
> take themselves seriously enough to make this statement and to put
> this in writing, which is bad enough. The worse aspect is that
> everyone else takes this seriously or ignores it instead of
> shutting this farce down.
That statement is being mocked this morning on both CNBC and FBN that
I've seen.

Is it serious criticism or is more along the lines of "Wook at dis stuffs. How are we supposed ta know whether ta buy stocks or not from reading dis stuffs?"

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 9:54 am
by John
** 20-May-2021 World View: Movin' On
Higgenbotham wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 9:45 am > Is it serious criticism or is more along the lines of "Wook at dis
> stuffs. How are we supposed ta know whether ta buy stocks or not
> from reading dis stuffs?"
From what I heard it wasn't criticism, so much as laughing at it and
moving on.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 10:12 am
by aeden

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 10:48 am
by vincecate
John wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 9:12 am That statement is being mocked this morning on both CNBC and FBN that
I've seen.
The funny part to me is they make no mention of inflation. But really if they had mentioned inflation, it would probably crash the market.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 10:58 am
by aeden
These are the same assholes that call you the evil racist supremacists Nazis and flood your country's with balkanization mud people
with out door hinges as they populated the proxy Waffen then also. You would think after the Ottoman's 1000 year fall they would get a
clue. They told you they wanted 2 million more so yea white papers do matter.
We are lucky they stick to bronze age superstition since these smug cracker pearl clutchers and CRT quacks ignore Calvarys cost and the same new lie.
Let these social retards fathom honor scare duels since we know both assholes modus operandi regional lies.
The only thing the tards has done correct to rhetorical facts is focus the under 12 demographics.
The rest are grifters and cost sinks since yea we know the math per capita.
The heavy lifting was done for two decades since the Caliphate project so blow the mental diseases back to Tehrans water less border.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 11:45 am
by aeden
Given the extreme levels of delta/gamma and opex-rolloff, SpotGamma warns that there are essentially two levers we are watching here:

Because all indices are in a negative gamma position, that implies put gamma is in control. If markets start off quietly, then put decay may spark and keep a bid in markets as dealers cover shorts (this decay is charm).

VIX/implied volatility(IV) is high. If VIX/IV breaks down then that will cause more rapid decay in puts, adding to a market tailwind. Conversely if VIX/IV spikes then dealers need to short futures (this is vanna).

If selling doesn’t materialize rather quickly today then this put decay vanna/charm combo could lead to a rally as dealer short hedges. We’d look at any rally as a function of “short covering” vs real buying which could lead to an air pocket into next week. We also note that next week is post-OPEX and so the window opens for more sustained volatility. tyler

Essentially what the ratio is saying now is that “call positions have declined substantially versus puts”.

That is an odd thing to see with stocks within a few percent of all time highs.

dead cat watch

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 11:54 am
by aeden
https://catallaxyfiles.com/2021/01/11/d ... e-returns/

If the left lips move it is the usual suspects.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 12:03 pm
by John
** 20-May-2021 World View: P/E ratio, M2V, birth rate, and CPI
richard5za wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 8:35 am > My take on the stock market based upon about 150 years of history
> is that fair value is a P/E of 18 in good times and 13 in
> difficult economic times. But the PE is currently well over 30 on
> S&P 500. History shows it always overshoots when it corrects, in
> some cases to a PE of 5 or 6. So the maths says the minimum it
> will come off is 50%. But as PE of 5 gives it a fall of 85%. Not
> over a few weeks but over a couple of years even 3 or 4 years

> What I don't know is when the fall will start or the nature of the
> initial trigger.

> The real question is identifying the assets to be invested in when
> the fall starts. US dollar, gold miners, cash in your trading
> account?
This bifurcation of the p/e ratio index into good vs difficult
economic times is very interesting. Since you've studied the history,
perhaps you could explain further what you mean by good vs economic
times, since that isn't always obvious, and how the p/e ratio relates
to them.

I'm looking at this whole issue from a slightly different angle. We
know that there was a "baby boom" after World War II, among people who
had postponed having children until after the war. The mood at that
time was that Americans were extremely afraid of WW III with the
Communists, but after America and the West had defeated the Great
Depression, the Nazis, and Imperial Japan, Americans felt confident
enough in the future of the country and the economy that people felt
that it was OK to bring children into the world.

So I'm looking at the mirror image of the Baby Boom. If an increased
birth rate was the major statistical indicator after the war, then
what were the statistical indicators before the war that led
eventually to the baby boom? These are of interest, because the same
statistica indicators should be evident today.

Higgie has mentioned the decline in birth rates. In fact, the decline
is so large that it's hard to overstate.
> "U.S. birth and fertility rates in 2020 dropped to
> another record low as births fell for the sixth consecutive year
> to the lowest levels since 1979, according to new data from the
> Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for
> Health Statistics.

> The number of births in the U.S. declined last year by 4% from
> 2019, double the average annual rate of decline of 2% since 2014,
> the CDC said in preliminary birth data released Wednesday. Total
> fertility rates and general fertility rates also declined by 4%
> since 2019, reaching record lows. The U.S. birth rate is so low,
> the nation is "below replacement levels," meaning more people die
> every day than are being born, the CDC said."

> https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/05/us-birt ... -says.html
So we can make the opposite observation to the one about the Baby
Boom: Americans today don't feel confident enough in the future of the
country and the economy for it to be OK to bring children into the
world.

The velocity of money is poorly understood by the so-called "expert"
economists, but it's another quantity that measures the confidence of
Americans in the future of the country and the economy. It crashed
significantly in the last year, matching the crash in the birth rate.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2V

The velocity of money measures the number of times that a single
dollar bill is used to purchase goods and services produced
domestically within a year. If the velocity of money is falling, it
means that people are losing confidence in the economy, and are afraid
to spend. If it's increasing, then people are confident about the
economy.

This is related to the inflation rate (CPI, or Consumer Price Index).
If the velocity of money is high, then people are buying more and more
goods, and the CPI will increase. If it's low, then people are saving
money instead of spending it, and the CPI will remain steady, or fall
in the extreme.

So if you look at the graph of M2V in the above link for the St Louis
Fed, you'll see that the "steady state" of M2V is around 1.8, which
means that a single dollar bill is used on an average of 1.8 times
to buy something in a given year.

In the 1970s, M2V surged to 1.9 and the CPI surged to 12%. The surge
peaked in 1981, and then began to fall back to the "steady state"
value during the 1980s. During the 1980s, the CPI also began to
return to "normal."

There was a big M2V surge in the 1990s, during the halcyon days of the
Clinton administration, reaching 2.2 in 1997. Why was there no big
increase in CPI? That's good question, and suggests that there may be
a factor of "lessons learned" from the 1970s. This is something that
requires more research.

During the period 2003-2006, M2V surged again. The year 2003 was the
first year of the Fourth Turning Crisis Era, and it was the time when
the Gen-X financial engineers cam to power and created fraudulent
synthetic subprime mortgage backed securities and sold to the
generation of their fathers, whom they hated.

However, M2V began falling sharply in 2008 with the financial
crisis. By 2014 this trend was quite clear, and I wrote
a fairly lengthy article on it:

** 13-Jan-14 World View -- Plummeting velocity of money explains deflation trend
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e140113



This is the graph that I included with that article:

Image
  • Velocity of Money (M2V), 1959-2013 (St. Louis Fed)


So it was clear in 2014 that the velocity of money had been falling
sharply since the financial crisis. By 2013, it had fallen to 1.5
from its "steady state" of 1.8. This indicates how Americans were
losing confidence in the economy. And this was also the time when the
birth rate began falling. By this time, any significant increase in
the CPI really was mathematically impossible, given the falling values
of velocity and birth rate. So M2V, CPI and birth rate have a lot in
common.

Another reason why the birth rate is related to the CPI is that one of
the major reasons that people spend money on consumer goods is because
of their children -- diapers, bigger houses, etc. So a birth rate
decline signals a stable CPI and a fall in M2V.

If you look at the current version of the M2V graph, you'll see that
M2V continued falling since 2013, and then began crashing
significantly starting in Q1 2020, at the start of the Wuhan
Coronavirus Pandemic. This was also the time when the birth rate
decline turned into a birth rate crash.

So I'm bemused by the present day hysteria over inflation. As anyone
with half a brain can see, any major surge in inflation is almost
mathematically impossible. If people are so afraid of what's coming
that they won't have children, then they won't have any need to spend
more money than usual, so the CPI will remain steady.

All of this should be obvious to the "experts" and "economists"
on CNBC, Bloomberg, FBN, and elsewhere. But these people are
idiots. As I pointed out in the past, they have no clue
why there was a bubble in the late 1990s, why it crashed in 2000,
why there was a real estate bubble, and so forth. These people
never get anything right, except by chance.

However, the indicators that I've been discussing are quite startling.
The birth rate collapsed in the last year, and M2V has collapsed in
the last year. The CPI spiked in April, though not as much as in
September 2008, which was followed by a year of deflation. So we'll
see what happens in the coming months.

What I've written above is still somewhat tentative, and requires more
research. Serious, thoughtful contributions are welcome.

Getting back to your original observation, Richard, the P/E ratio is
astronomically high today, as it was prior to the 1929 panic. Do you
see any further relationships with the indicators I've been
discussing?

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 1:03 pm
by aeden
Demographics bank themselves and the digicoin age will be integrated. Not rocket science on cohort change cash flows. Debt markets after gold backing had to evolve as warned. Are you going to napalm digicoin holders over maniacally sick debt butchers called fiat wall street.
Plantation economics and the digital age meet head to head called import modeling and offshoring inflation now coming home.
Remember Jello 1, 2, 3
Debt only controls a conflict they want to bad they got piss running down there MIC leg
as the Demsheviks take root they booted out over the Pond.
Senate cannot grow sack anyways to clean up even Portland's half wits.
At least out Governor bankrupted Detroit's nitwits corrupted ass to grasp some sanity.
Fast track chips and hope it rains also as farmers are scaling back to mitigate loss and keep livestock in step with input costs also.

Who was the idiot in review who in 2002 abrogated the ABM Treaty with Russia and turned down Iran's overtures of giving up its nuclear program in exchange for security. All well documented events we contend as nothing is real.
Oh and did I mention the Iraq invasion that basically handed the region to Iran after they ran children over landmines to clear the way for the ground troops?

You can't fix stupid, and there is alot of stupid in American and cash flow stupid as 10 trillion brrrrrr tokens.

The president’s subdued commemoration of the treaty’s passing contrasted sharply with his administration’s earlier fervent attacks on the accord. Bush and other senior officials had frequently described the ABM Treaty as a Cold War relic and painted it as the sole obstacle to building a national missile defense, one of the administration’s top priorities.

Signed in 1972 by Washington and Moscow to slow the nuclear arms race, the ABM Treaty barred both superpowers from deploying national defenses against long-range ballistic missiles and from building the foundation for such a defense. The treaty was based on the premise that if either superpower constructed a strategic defense, the other would build up its offensive nuclear forces to offset the defense.

Deeper muck than the topical peruse of the day.

thread: Gaza Prophecy in Obadiah

ob1 amo6 ez7 no wailing since violence

deconstruct lessons learned from the 2005 land for peace idiocy
thread: חָמָס
2555 concordance
if/then

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:16 pm
by vincecate
Higgenbotham wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:33 pm The purpose of this long-delayed essay is to show why the upcoming crisis will much more devastating than you or anyone expect. I got the idea for it from the following paragraph from John Kenneth Galbraith's 1955 book, "The Great Crash - 1929":

"A common feature of all these earlier troubles [previous panics] was that having happened they were over. The worst was reasonably recognizable as such. The singular feature of the great crash of 1929 was that the worst continued to worsen. What looked one day like the end proved on the next day to have been only the beginning. Nothing could have been more ingeniously designed to maximize the suffering, and also to insure that as few as possible escaped the common misfortune." (p. 108)
This is a great quote. Went looking for it. I really think the coming crash is going to be like this. People will think it is over and then it goes down more.