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[Guest]

** 24-Feb-2020 World View: Heating system

> So now Wuhan Coronavirus is coming over the hill towards me. I
> live in Kendall Square, Cambridge, next door to MIT, where there
> are thousands of Asian students milling around, many living in my
> apartment building.

> So I'm assuming I'm going to get it, and since I'm an "elderly"
> person, I assume I'm going to die, which means that I have about a
> month left to live, under these assumptions. What should I
> do?

Something else occurred to me.

My apartment building has hundreds of apartments, mostly filled with
Asian students.

The building was built in 1950 and it's a very solid building. But
the apartments are all centrally heated by a common forced air heating
system. That means that all hundreds of apartments are breathing the
same air.

Mine, too.

Another update from Korea. The government announced today that anyone with a fever or respiratory problems should stay home. This means the medical system has already been overwhelmed. Also, people were told several days ago not to go to the hospital or doctor's office if they believe they have the virus. They were to telephone a number and wait to be picked up. Now they are told to just stay home. Now we are going to die at home? The system has already been overwhelmed.

On the plus side,with most of China's factories shut down the air quality hasn't been this good since the 1990s. Too bad most are too afraid to go outside to enjoy it.

Good luck, everyone.

[FishbellykanakaDude]

I didn't post much for a couple of months due to the problems John was having with racism and other issues in the discussion. I wanted no part of that. But I still read what John had written.

I am about to take down my own website. I figured only maybe 10-20 people were reading it, and it took a lot of effort. If you want to read the articles I wrote, I would do so quickly. It is at http://www.comingstorms.com

I hope you keep the site up.

..use HTTrack to grab the whole site,.. probably.

[FishbellykanakaDude]

John, I hope you live long enough to see your predictions vindicated.

Do you really think that he's worried about being vindicated?

..I don't think so.

[John]

** 24-Feb-2020 World View: CDC raises S. Korea warning to Level 3

> Mine, too.

> Another update from Korea. The government announced today that
> anyone with a fever or respiratory problems should stay home. This
> means the medical system has already been overwhelmed. Also,
> people were told several days ago not to go to the hospital or
> doctor's office if they believe they have the virus. They were to
> telephone a number and wait to be picked up. Now they are told to
> just stay home. Now we are going to die at home? The system has
> already been overwhelmed.

> On the plus side,with most of China's factories shut down the air
> quality hasn't been this good since the 1990s. Too bad most are
> too afraid to go outside to enjoy it.

> Good luck, everyone.

Within the last few hours, the CDC has raised the CDC warning level
for South Korea to Level 3, the highest level, meaning that no one
should travel to S. Korea, unless absolutely essential.

As of Monday, the coronavirus has killed at least 2,600 people and
infected more than 80,000 people in 35 countries worldwide.

Locations with Confirmed COVID-19 Cases:

China, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, Afghanistan,
Australia, Bahrain, Belgium, Cambodia, Canada, Egypt, Finland,
France, Germany, India, Iran, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kuwait,
Lebanon, Malaysia, Nepal, Philippines, Russia, Sri Lanka,
Singapore, Spain, Sweden, Thailand, The Republic of Korea, United
Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States, Vietnam

• Locations with Confirmed COVID-19 Cases

Note that there are almost no cases in Africa or South America.
That's because nobody is being tested.

---- Sources:

-- COVID-19: CDC recommends that travelers avoid all nonessential
travel to South Korea
http://outbreaknewstoday.com/covid-19-c ... rea-99406/
(OutbreakNewsToday, 24-Feb-2020)

-- Locations with Confirmed COVID-19 Cases Globa
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... cases.html
(CDC, 24-Feb-2020)

[FishbellykanakaDude]

** 24-Feb-2020 World View: Heating system

> So now Wuhan Coronavirus is coming over the hill towards me. I
> live in Kendall Square, Cambridge, next door to MIT, where there
> are thousands of Asian students milling around, many living in my
> apartment building.

> So I'm assuming I'm going to get it, and since I'm an "elderly"
> person, I assume I'm going to die, which means that I have about a
> month left to live, under these assumptions. What should I
> do?

Something else occurred to me.

My apartment building has hundreds of apartments, mostly filled with
Asian students.

The building was built in 1950 and it's a very solid building. But
the apartments are all centrally heated by a common forced air heating
system. That means that all hundreds of apartments are breathing the
same air.

Seal your incoming and outgoing A/C vents. Buy a space heater.

Mine, too.

Another update from Korea. The government announced today that anyone with a fever or respiratory problems should stay home. This means the medical system has already been overwhelmed. Also, people were told several days ago not to go to the hospital or doctor's office if they believe they have the virus. They were to telephone a number and wait to be picked up. Now they are told to just stay home. Now we are going to die at home? The system has already been overwhelmed.

On the plus side,with most of China's factories shut down the air quality hasn't been this good since the 1990s. Too bad most are too afraid to go outside to enjoy it.

Good luck, everyone.

Population concentrations are bad. Don't bother with them, and "find another way" not enter them for what you REALLY need. Forego that which you don't REALLY need.

(( The "just stay home and phone for pickup" sounds VERY sensible and wise to me. ))
(( You're MUCH more likely to catch "something" in a hospital. ))

Find an affluent area medical "emergency room" within range but "relatively isolated", and go there if "fluid in the lungs" gets to be a REAL problem.

..best of luck to us all, indeed!

[Navigator]

The following is from a website that raised a number of interesting points regarding the Wuhan flu

Why Is the Mortality Rate So Low Outside of China?

The current mortality rate outside of China is very low, I estimate around 0.005%, compared to the 2.3% rate in China. Most if not all of the deaths outside of China have involved Chinese citizens who have traveled abroad.

Current hypotheses include that a covert SARS vaccination program was included in the national mandatory vaccination program started on Dec 1, 2019 that happened to involve a secondary true outbreak of Coronavirus with secondary exposure. Under such conditions, the animal models clearly show that vaccination against SARS spike proteins lead to high rates of morbidity and mortality, especially in older mice. No children seem to be dying in China, consistent with them being excluded from a large-scale initial Phase II or Phase III trial. Mortality appears highest in Hubei and Wuhan as well. We know a Phase I trial against SARS was conducted with 120 people by Sinovac around 2007.

Another possibility is that a vaccine used by the Chinese has weakened their response to an otherwise mild coronavirus infection. SARS 2 binding to ACE2 is weaker. Thimerosal inhibits ERAP1. Vaccination with aluminum hydroxide containing vaccines might induce autoimmunity in the lungs. All of these factors could play a role in making vaccinated individuals more susceptible.

A third possibility is that people in that geographic region who had prior SARS infections might be less able to fight off SARS 2 simply due to original antigenic sin from infection. Toronto, Canada, take note.

Either way, as SARS 2 spreads around the world, the medical community should begin to collect past medical exposure information while they collect information on contact w/people who recently traveled to China:

Were you recently vaccinated using aluminum-containing vaccines?
Have you ever received a diagnosis of a SARS infection in the past?
Are you of Asian or Chinese descent?
With these three questions, we could learn a lot about the risk of mortality in a few weeks’ time and plan an informed public health response accordingly.

https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/02/16 ... ypothesis/

As the author points out, so far anyway, mortality rates outside China are relatively low.

From other news reports, currently there are 2389 cases outside of China, but only 35 deaths, many of whom are probably the Chinese travelers he refers to.

So the good news here is that it may not be as deadly as the Spanish flu. And there is a LOT more that we just do not know yet. But it is certainly well past containment.

[Navigator]

Continuing from the previous post, it could be that the CCP unwittingly made people much more prone to die from the Wuhan flu. The death rate in China is of Spanish flu magnitude. If the death rate outside of China stays low (and lets hope that the case), then it would appear that something like what the article I quoted has happened.

Of course the CCP will turn this on its head, and blame the US for unleashing an anti-Chinese bio weapon.

War is coming, and it will come a lot faster than most people think. I put it at about a year to 18 months out.

[FishbellykanakaDude]

Continuing from the previous post, it could be that the CCP unwittingly made people much more prone to die from the Wuhan flu. The death rate in China is of Spanish flu magnitude. If the death rate outside of China stays low (and lets hope that the case), then it would appear that something like what the article I quoted has happened.

Of course the CCP will turn this on its head, and blame the US for unleashing an anti-Chinese bio weapon.

War is coming, and it will come a lot faster than most people think. I put it at about a year to 18 months out.

Early spring (March) of 2021?
Mid fall (September) of 2021?

..but why?

• Will Iran have fallen, recombined, and re-risen (along with most all of the world's Shi'a muslims) as an ally of the West?
• Will Russia have become the bane of their Sunni "neighbors" around their "new" bases in the region, and become "strangely" aligned with the West?
• Will China feel "internally secure" enough to risk massive insurrection when people's businesses and livelihoods are completely disrupted by "absolute trade chaos"?

..just askin'.

We'll see what's where in '21, I suppose.

[Guest]

Continuing from the previous post, it could be that the CCP unwittingly made people much more prone to die from the Wuhan flu. The death rate in China is of Spanish flu magnitude. If the death rate outside of China stays low (and lets hope that the case), then it would appear that something like what the article I quoted has happened.

Of course the CCP will turn this on its head, and blame the US for unleashing an anti-Chinese bio weapon.

War is coming, and it will come a lot faster than most people think. I put it at about a year to 18 months out.

I think you should keep your website going.

[John]

** 25-Feb-2020 World View: Coronavirus timeline

• James Lyon Weller: This child looks like a sweet kid, and his
  mother must be proud, but there's no reason to believe that he has any
  clue what he's talking about

https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/02/16 ... ypothesis/

> Why Is the Mortality Rate So Low Outside of China?

> The current mortality rate outside of China is very low, I
> estimate around 0.005%, compared to the 2.3% rate in China. Most
> if not all of the deaths outside of China have involved Chinese
> citizens who have traveled abroad.

> Current hypotheses include that a covert SARS vaccination program
> was included in the national mandatory vaccination program started
> on Dec 1, 2019 that happened to involve a secondary true outbreak
> of Coronavirus with secondary exposure. Under such conditions, the
> animal models clearly show that vaccination against SARS spike
> proteins lead to high rates of morbidity and mortality, especially
> in older mice. No children seem to be dying in China, consistent
> with them being excluded from a large-scale initial Phase II or
> Phase III trial. Mortality appears highest in Hubei and Wuhan as
> well. We know a Phase I trial against SARS was conducted with 120
> people by Sinovac around 2007.

There's actually a much simpler explanation for why so many more
people are dying inside China than outside.

A rough timeline in China is that we know that the CCP became aware of
the coronavirus in October, and we know that the CCP began building
hospitals in Wuhan in November, and we know that in December the virus
was only beginning to spread in Wuhan and that people who talked about
it were brutally suppressed by the CCP (as illustrated by the death of
Dr. Li), and we know that it was only around January 20 that the CCP
finally considered the outbreak serious enough to admit it publicly,
and begin draconian measures.

Outside of China, it was in late January that the first cases were
found in the West. So the West has been 3-4 months behind the Chinese
in outbreaks of the virus.

So today, the West is where China was in late November, only
at the very beginning of the crisis.

That explains why the death rate outside of China is lower. Another
reason is the obvious one that the West has found ways to care
for patients that weren't available to the Chinese 2-3 months ago.

That makes a lot more sense than the wild paranoia of a young
kid.