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FishbellykanakaDude
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John wrote:** 02-Mar-2020 World View: WHO: This virus is not influenza

I'm getting really annoyed by seeing smooth-talking males and sweetly
smiling sexy girls explaining to the TV audience that there is nothing
to worry about because hundreds of thousands of people get the
ordinary seasonal flu each other, and 50,000 or so die each year.
Therefore, they conclude, coronavirus is no different than ordinary
flu.

That's obviously an open-mouth lie.
  • If Coronavirus were just like the ordinary flu, then why has
    China quarantined tens of millions of people? And why is China's
    economy near collapse, with millions of businesses shut down?
  • If Coronavirus were just like the ordinary flu, then why did the
    Japanese quarantine the Diamond Princess cruise ship for weeks, and
    why is Japan considering canceling the Tokyo Olympics?
  • If Coronavirus were just like the orginary flu, then why is every
    country in the world setting up travel restrictions, forbidding large
    gatherings of people, and quarantining many people, even those who
    haven't yet shown symptoms?
Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus gave a press briefing
today:
"The epidemics in the Republic of Korea, Italy, Iran
and Japan are our greatest concern. This is a unique virus, with
unique features. This virus is not influenza. We are in uncharted
territory."
So if you ignore the pretty smiles and soothing, reassuring words,
then that's where we really are.


---- Source:

-- WHO says new coronavirus cases outside China are 9 times higher
than inside over last 24 hours
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/02/who-say ... hours.html
(CNBC, 2-Mar-2020)
...
  • Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of WHO’s health emergencies program, said Monday scientists still don’t know exactly how COVID-19 “behaves,” saying it’s not like influenza. “We know it’s not transmitting in exactly the same way that influenza was, and that offers us a glimmer, a chink of light, that this virus can be suppressed and pushed and contained,” he said.
...couldn't resist the,.. uh,.. observation.

Anyway,.. any communicable disease that has proven to kill people, and isn't fully understood, has to be considered dangerous, BUT that doesn't mean it HAS to be "massively deadly" per se.

Only time will tell, and it's best we don't get too far out over our skis.


I do find the "face mask recommendations" thing to be rather interesting, though.

The virus is embedded in little "sneezed out mucus droplets". That means that you don't have to filter out particles that are "virus sized" but rather "mucus droplet sized", which would make P100 (and possible N95) rated masks very effective in filtering out the disease, assuming you use it correctly.

INCORRECT: The virus would simply die on the fibers of the mask's filter after an hour or so.
Covid-19 can live on surfaces 4 to 9 days. Therefore, treating "breathed through" filters with 62-71% ethanol, 0.5% hydrogen peroxide or 0.1% sodium hypochlorite (bleach) can "efficiently" inactivate coronaviruses within a minute.

The probable reason for downplaying the effectiveness of the masks is the likely run on the mask supply otherwise.

Those "bright enough" to realize which "particles" need filtering will continue to have a supply on hand.
( I got the silicone half-faced 3M mask with the pink 3M P100 round replaceable filters. )

EDIT: Revision - Covid-19 can live on surfaces 4 to 9 days. Therefore, treating "breathed through" filters with 62-71% ethanol, 0.5% hydrogen peroxide or 0.1% sodium hypochlorite (bleach) can "efficiently" inactivate coronaviruses within a minute.
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John wrote:2-Mar-20 World View -- Coronavirus updates -- infections spread across the world

Wuhan Coronavirus (Covid-19) observations

Coronavirus is an economic disaster for China. China is overdue for a massive anti-government rebellion, the first since Mao's Communist Revolution civil war, and coronavirus could be the trigger.
In Steve Bannon's recent interview, near the end (approx 50:25) he made a very stunning and bold prediction that this event would be THE END of the CCP. These kinds of predictions can make you a laughingstock if they don't come to fruition, and sound like Alex Jones-level hyperbole. I have a lot of respect for him, but I worry that he didn't say "could", he said "mark my words" as if certain beyond any doubt. He went all-in on this prediction. We will see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlF0LcQO9Tg
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The reason I frequent this site is because, as a seeker of truth, I believe that John has uncovered some of the fundamental patterns of history.

I have never believed that history was random. I believe that it is not random at all. In fact, as a somewhat religious person, I believe that the history of this world is in fact God’s greatest creation.

As such, I believe there is a purpose behind history, and that God himself, in creating it, used various themes and models that we can perceive it we study and look closely. These can help us to make projections as to what is coming, so that we can prepare, and so that, for some of us anyway, we can acknowledge that a guiding hand is at work.

Now, I am not trying to preach or convince anyone of anything, but I do like to explain my opinions and beliefs. I do get asked “why do you think such and such will happen?”, and I don’t mind giving my reasoning. It is up to others whether or not they want to accept or reject that reasoning.

I think that John has done a wonderful job of explaining his reasoning. On top of that, he continues to provide the best overall condensed news as to the big topics of the day. I haven’t found anyone yet who comes anywhere close. I just wish we could get him a PAID column somewhere influential.
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..great post Navigator..!! Pointing someone with lots of excess dollars and sense toward our JaX would be a GREAT thing, indeed.

But, I popped in to dump this tidbit into the mix:
  • ... He cited a report of a 10-year-old boy who visited the outbreak’s epicenter in China and didn’t show any symptoms of the virus. But when the boy’s parents insisted doctors test him, he was diagnosed with the virus, according to the Lancet medical journal.
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** 02-Mar-2020 World View: Fatalism
Navigator wrote: > The reason I frequent this site is because, as a seeker of truth,
> I believe that John has uncovered some of the fundamental patterns
> of history.

> I have never believed that history was random. I believe that it
> is not random at all. In fact, as a somewhat religious person, I
> believe that the history of this world is in fact God’s greatest
> creation.

> As such, I believe there is a purpose behind history, and that God
> himself, in creating it, used various themes and models that we
> can perceive it we study and look closely. These can help us to
> make projections as to what is coming, so that we can prepare, and
> so that, for some of us anyway, we can acknowledge that a guiding
> hand is at work.

> Now, I am not trying to preach or convince anyone of anything, but
> I do like to explain my opinions and beliefs. I do get asked “why
> do you think such and such will happen?”, and I don’t mind giving
> my reasoning. It is up to others whether or not they want to
> accept or reject that reasoning.

> I think that John has done a wonderful job of explaining his
> reasoning. On top of that, he continues to provide the best
> overall condensed news as to the big topics of the day. I haven’t
> found anyone yet who comes anywhere close. I just wish we could
> get him a PAID column somewhere influential.
Thanks for your comments. They give me another opportunity
to discuss how strange my life is, and has become.

I'm not a religious person, but I'm highly fatalistic. The online
definition of this word is "having or showing a belief that the future
is determined and cannot be changed," and I have this fatalistic
attitude about myself and the world outside of any religious
framework.

In the case of the world, Generational Dynamics and generational theory
explain the course of history, because of the underlying forces
caused by the food supply growing slower than the population.

In the case of myself, personally, we've all heard about people who
have heard a "calling" -- a call to the priesthood, or a call to
politics, or whatever. I can point to many events in my life pointing
me to where I am today. As it says in the Sesame Street song "Rainbow
Connection":
  • Have you been half asleep and have you heard voices?
    I've heard them calling my name.
    Is this the sweet sound that calls the young sailors?
    The voice might be one and the same.
    I've heard it too many times to ignore it.
    It's something that I'm s'posed to be.
    Somewhere we'll find it, the Rainbow Connection,
    The lovers, the dreamers and me.
However, for me, my Rainbow Connection has nothing to do with lovers
and dreamers. My Rainbow Connection is aligned with that of the
Biblical Jeremiah. He was thrown into a pit when he predicted the
fall of Jerusalem. He was stoned to death when his predictions came
true. Just as the history of the world is driven by starvation, war,
rape, genocide, and so forth, the history of my life is a historic
paradigm that will only end in death and tragedy.

As I've said before, I never thought that Generational Dynamics was
going to make me rich and famous, but I did hope that I could make a
living from it. Generational Dynamics is an enormous advancement in
the analysis of history and the world, but instead of bringing me a
living, it's only brought me hatred and being shunned by people I've
known for years. It's been a personal disaster for me. Perhaps my
death will allow Generational Dynamics to be more widely recognized.

At least Jeremiah was lucky enough to have a book written about him,
but I'm not going to be paid by someone influential. Influential
people wanted nothing to do with Jeremiah, Winston Churchill, or me.
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** 02-Mar-2020 World View: Judy Collins: The Rainbow Connection


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrakVGeTi14
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I very much doubt the cases in China are really plummeting. I don't trust a word the CCP says, especially since they covered the coronavirus up for months before it became world news. I wouldn't be surprised if the real numbers in China are 5-10 times higher. Some people are saying it's nothing to worry about, other are panicking. Unless it becomes like a repeat of 1918, the panic could end up causing more damage than the Coronavirus.

And of course, the disease is already being politicized here, with Democrats trying to label it the "Trumpvirus." You'd think people would at least be smart enough not to turn a health crisis into a political issue, but clearly not.

However, we thought the Ebola outbreak would turn into a major pandemic and it didn't.
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There are six things that are on the horizon:
1. Economic Chaos
2. Political Chaos
3. Disease
4. War
5. Famine
6. Natural Disasters

The WuHu flu could be number 3. Or it could trigger 1, 4 or even 5. We will see shortly.

Meanwhile, we are hearing more and from more trusted sources (meaning more mainstream media, originally it was just in the “out there” websites) that the WuHu flu virus has genetic components similar to what is found in HIV. In any case, health officials know that it is not just “this year’s version of the flu”.

I don’t think it was purposely weaponized as a bioweapon but was a bunch of arrogant genetic scientists trying to see “what they could do” and then it got out. On top of that, the CCP having allowed the same scientists to experimentally “inoculate” people with some untested “flu shots” that led to reduced resistance in the local population is still rather feasible.
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Navigator wrote:There are six things that are on the horizon:
1. Economic Chaos
2. Political Chaos
3. Disease
4. War
5. Famine
6. Natural Disasters

The WuHu flu could be number 3. Or it could trigger 1, 4 or even 5. We will see shortly.

Meanwhile, we are hearing more and from more trusted sources (meaning more mainstream media, originally it was just in the “out there” websites) that the WuHu flu virus has genetic components similar to what is found in HIV. In any case, health officials know that it is not just “this year’s version of the flu”.

I don’t think it was purposely weaponized as a bioweapon but was a bunch of arrogant genetic scientists trying to see “what they could do” and then it got out. On top of that, the CCP having allowed the same scientists to experimentally “inoculate” people with some untested “flu shots” that led to reduced resistance in the local population is still rather feasible.
The red flag (no pun intended) to me is that the Chinese have locked down their cities and effectively crippled their economy. They seem to know something that others don't.

I think this virus is much worse than we are being lead to believe. I think it's two step virus as some have suggested. The second wave will kill millions more than the first. The behavior of the Chinese government is very suspicious.
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Something made me go “hummmm” this morning. With the Wuhan virus hitting Iran now, especially upper tier leadership, I wonder if the vector was mid-level CCP envoys? If that is the case, we should see upper echelon leadership of the CCP dropping out of sight and being replaced. A cull in leadership in Iran and CCP by nature you could say.

There is no mention in any media of the impact of the Wuhan virus on the PLA readiness rates. I think it would not hit the lower enlisted ranks, since they are younger and the mortality rate for 49 years or younger is > .04% but again senior ranks/leadership/Generals/Admirals is 1.3 to 3.6% if you believe their numbers.
Just thinking.
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