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** 18-Jun-2022 World View: Will Bitcoin go up or down?
vincecate wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:42 pm > Bitcoin has continued crashing as the 3 day weekend is on the
> first day.
> Bitcoin Price (BTC) $17,865
> https://coinmarketcap.com/
> Some indication stocks will keep going down...
Guest wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:56 pm > When I posted these February 12, 2022 Bitcoin was 42K. This
> morning Bitcoin went below 19K.
> Bitcoin is no longer short term bearish. I am getting ready for a
> significant move higher.

> https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin- ... -otherwise

> "Bitcoin critics say BTC price is going to $0 this time, but these
> 3 signals suggest otherwise
> Bitcoin haters are ready to read its obituary, but on-chain data
> and other indicators suggest the current price range could be a
> good buy zone."
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"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws".
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John wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:50 pm Will Bitcoin go up or down?
It does both, a lot.
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We are entering a recession or depression, especially due to the Fed tightening into the incoming news of bad economic indicators, which will be left and right. All things are getting hurt, of course BTC more, because it's more volatile. I don't think it's a particular time to be with very much in the market. I thought a blow off top might happen and to me it's pretty clear now there will not be. Don't fight the Fed as they say, and the Fed has resolved to attempt to destroy demand and the entire middle class as a result. I expect a weak buyback of stocks to end June, and I'll sell most of my paper positions at that time - even those stocks or equities related to commodities which I am bullish on for the longer term. I think there is a very high chance of a dramatic market movement downward in July, if not a major continuation of selling off through September into October.

Things are looking bad. What do you say, Vince?
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Cool Breeze wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:28 pm Things are looking bad. What do you say, Vince?
I have puts on S&P, TLT, FXY and I hope after these make money I can buy Bitcoin, GLD, SLV at good prices.
Things are looking good for me. :-)
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** 18-Jun-2022 World View: The Principle of Maximum Ruin

I've posted the following quote from John Kenneth Galbraith's book
The Great Crash - 1929 several times in the past, but it's
worth repeating now.

I've referred to this in the past as The Principle of Maximum Ruin --
the maximum number of people were ruined to the maximum extent
possible.

Please read the following carefully.
> "In the autumn of 1929 the New York Stock Exchange,
> under roughly its present constitution, was 112 years old. During
> this lifetime it had seen some difficult days. On September 18,
> 1873, the firm of Jay Cooke and Company failed, and, as a more or
> less direct result, so did fifty-seven other stock exchange firms
> in the next few weeks. On October 23, 1907, call money rates
> reached 125 percent in the panic of that year. On September 16,
> 1920 -- the autumn months are the off season in Wall Street -- a
> bomb exploded in front of Morgan's next door, killing thirty
> people and injuring a hundred more.

> A common feature of all these earlier troubles [[previous panics]]
> was that having happened they were over. The worst was reasonably
> recognizable as such. The singular feature of the great crash of
> 1929 was that the worst continued to worsen. What looked one day
> like the end proved on the next day to have been only the
> beginning. Nothing could have been more ingeniously designed to
> maximize the suffering, and also to insure that as few as possible
> escaped the common misfortune.

> The fortunate speculator who had funds to answer the first margin
> call presently got another and equally urgent one, and if he met
> that there would still be another. In the end all the money he
> had was extracted from him and lost. The man with the smart
> money, who was safely out of the market when the first crash came,
> naturally went back in to pick up bargains. ... The bargains then
> suffered a ruinous fall. Even the man who waited out all of
> October and all of November, who saw the volume of trading return
> to normal and saw Wall Street become as placid as a produce
> market, and who then bought common stocks would see their value
> drop to a third or fourth of the purchase price in the next
> twenty-four months. ... The ruthlessness of [the stock market was]
> remarkable. ...

> Monday, October 28, was the first day on which this process of
> climax and anticlimax ad infinitum began to reveal itself.
> It was another terrible day. Volume was huge, although below the
> previous Thursday -- nine and a quarter million shares as compared
> with nearly thirteen. But the losses were far more severe.
> ... Indeed the decline on this one day was greater than that of
> all the preceding week of panic. Once again a late ticker left
> everyone in ignorance of what was happening, save that it was bad.

> On this day there was no recovery."
As placid as a produce market. The Principle of Maximum Ruin.
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https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/naked-co ... aghelstein

Crash started before 1973 on energy anyways.

Anyone who needs to be told that Brand On attacks are insane, is insane.

Everything that can be done, will be done, to destroy America.

So, concluded Socrates, what you were going to tell me is neither true, nor good, nor useful.
Why, then, did you want to tell me this?
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The result of the Biden Administration’s hostility toward the energy industry is skyrocketing inflation.

The numbers speak for themselves. In the U.S., the monthly price change in May for all items was 1% but for fuel oil,
airline fares, piped utility natural gas, and gasoline the price changes were 17%, 13%, 8%, and 4% respectively.

“When you strip out of the [Consumer Price Index] all the items that are linked to energy (air fares, moving/freight, rental cars, delivery services, new and used vehicles),” noted economist David Rosenberg, “the core was +0.36% and the [year-over-year] steadied near 4%. ”

Sock puppets are always late to reality. Juice Boxes are a lie for the children with no memory.


The game of nominal value of money is over, as this system does not allow to control the supply of resources... Our product, our rules..."
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Toe tags are not slowing down for the junteenth cult.
One dead, two injured.

Enjoy your socialist demonic manifesto you more than worship.
You worship demons.
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