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Investments, gold, currencies, surviving after a financial meltdown
aeden
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https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php ... o_Children

The global uniparty have a snag now. A few said no and what border culture family deals with.
The rest are bish stupid for multi decades.
I doubt uniparty has a clue or back bone as the implosion feeds off other feedback loops now.
Cypto is spreading to other global leveraged equity assets also as we knew it would as before.
It was noted half are dementia ridden sock Muppets now in the swamp anyways now.
We dealt with for way over a decade and it is difficult and are now also.
The Uniparty has challenges from bikes to energy enough to think and truly are just moleks.
The Framers warned us about Mores and a actual Nation that survives.
The juice three deep still does not fathom and actively ignored the damages or even pretend even care.
The fish head rot is real top down.

The Bond King has mapped out a few likely scenarios for equity for those paying attention.
The slow burn since last July was missed in a few zones also.
He’s not in charge of a damn thing totally compromised like the Rep. seen first hand.
Unaccountable Foreign assets.
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richard5za
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John wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:00 pm ** 18-Jun-2022 World View: The Principle of Maximum Ruin

I've posted the following quote from John Kenneth Galbraith's book
The Great Crash - 1929 several times in the past, but it's
worth repeating now.

I've referred to this in the past as The Principle of Maximum Ruin --
the maximum number of people were ruined to the maximum extent
possible.

Please read the following carefully.

As placid as a produce market. The Principle of Maximum Ruin.
John Kenneth Galbraith was in vogue when I was at uniniversity and I first read this circa 1967 and many times since. Also in vogue in that era was Keynes, Schumpeter, etc

I don't think one can avoid stock market traps without a knowlegde of long term stock market history (say 1900 to 2022), plus an understanding that the P/E ratio is the main driver of stock prices. Historically the P/E ratio goes below 10 every time a bubble market goes into genuine correction. On occasions its gone down to around 5.

So I think we can expect a P/E ratio of less than 10 at some point even with the FED interference of today versus 1929. But because of this the stock correction won't as severe as 1929, I don't think.

So currently the people to watch are the FED. If they move too fast to control inflation they could well spark a deep recession or depression. If they are too slow, or don't do enough, inflation could get out of control and itself create an economic depression.
The principle of maximum ruin will apply to uninformed or greedy people. If I buy back into stocks when the P/E ratio is below 10, assuming the companies I buy remain solvent, I won't be ruined if the P/E ratio falls to 5; I simply wait for the expected increase in sock values as the P/E ration moves back to 10 and its long term average of around 15.

John, I happen think that your deflationery forecast using generational theory will prove correct, just allow time for the economic misery to develop. As as far as buying gold etc, yes, I do think there is a short term opportunity as a safe haven, but that recessionery forces will wack it down again. I have never bought crypto and don't think I ever will. I simply cannot make any sense of crypto pricing other than bubble mania.
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Unitards is the fact only.
100 years of USA liquid hydrocarbons
1000 years of USA coal
1000000 years of USA Uranium
10000000 years of USA Thorium
All available here.
Cool Breeze
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vincecate wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:36 pm
Cool Breeze wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:28 pm Things are looking bad. What do you say, Vince?
I have puts on S&P, TLT, FXY and I hope after these make money I can buy Bitcoin, GLD, SLV at good prices.
Things are looking good for me. :-)
What do you think about EUO, a short on the euro - I can't tell if it is a eurozone play, the euro currency or both ...

Yes, you're looking good. Printer go brrr next year to try to fix this year's mistakes. BTC of course to ATH
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richard5za wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:42 am John, I happen think that your deflationery forecast using generational theory will prove correct, just allow time for the economic misery to develop. As as far as buying gold etc, yes, I do think there is a short term opportunity as a safe haven, but that recessionery forces will wack it down again. I have never bought crypto and don't think I ever will. I simply cannot make any sense of crypto pricing other than bubble mania.
My thesis has already proven right as inflation has led to a possible deflation, which I said over a year ago and which the Fed is supporting now as they are intentionally trying to curb inflation by destroying the wealth effect. So inflation, again, not deflation is the ultimate cause of destruction (thus deflation). I'm confused why I have to state this over and over, but I think it's mostly because I (and Vince) nailed it, and few want to give guys like me credit for whatever reason.

BTC is an asset for fiat debasement. Yes, it's time limited and quirky in that regard, but was created for this purpose. That's when it will shine and if bad times are coming, it'll be one of the few flights to safety, as it's pretty clear those days are on the horizon.
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This time won't be any different, and once the dust settles, Powell capitulates and the liquidity firehose goes into overdrive again, a few years from today everyone will again be asking why they did not take advantage of today's buying opportunity. tyler

No thanks on Cariboos. We are done since the market set that Hooker on leveraged fire.
People are losing their ever loving crypto a$$ in real time.
Taproot may not finish you off and as we said the market could and did care less from the Frankfurt fork cluster map.
Remember we have been watching this since 1974 also. Fatal Deceit from Hayek.

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sweeps: ASGI launched nearly two years ago. For some investors, this is still too new of a fund to consider.
However, there are some compelling reasons to consider putting it on an investor's watchlist. alpo

That being said, over the last year, FMO has performed to a much higher degree than KYN. I believe that is one of the major hurdles that the funds will face to get this merger through shareholders. In addition to that, since FMO is such a small fund, they will probably struggle to reach out to shareholders just to get enough votes.
It is worth noting, in this merger, only FMO shareholders need to vote. KYN shareholders do nothing. The fund is getting free assets, so really, there is no downside for investors here. alpo

Shellenberger: Why Biden's Attacks On Energy Are "Absolutely Insane"
The gravy train has been derailed by the sick demented Dems. Congratulation ass clowns.
Its all about the economy you f in retards and your ass is done next round of elections.
Jens better hope that enough people don't wake up and toss all these clowns in a dumpster fire where they belong.
Dominion Unixtards even know it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNyIhirtXUI
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aeden
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Cryptos and precious metals need to be suppressed and crushed while fiat currencies collapse and juice can roll out their CBDC.
Point blank we never said tech the problem. You got to many swamp fudge packers attacking reality of flows. Says law for the children
and Cantillon for the nominal thieves while that sick nazi tranny prick will allows you to pick up sticks.
25k by Tuesday probably test $30k if the NASSY is green. Scope and scale of dead cat week and sweeps.
Vin and fish farm paid off will be a coin toss into September as warned.
No clue as the bish pinks slips get their ass handed to them.
Cipolla kind of stupid as toe tags. As they know point blank the disease was set loose here as the actual older files prove.
Some guy fell of a bike for optics campaign was forwarded.
Asian BTC and equity mixed into a dust up. Cycles for Tulips we shall see.
Who filled out the irs 8888.
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This seems interesting:


The three heaviest shorting days in 2008 preceded a -50% decline.

This past week saw the heaviest shorting since then.
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vincecate wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:11 pm This seems interesting:


The three heaviest shorting days in 2008 preceded a -50% decline.

This past week saw the heaviest shorting since then.
My reading of last week's shorts was due to the $ 3.2 trillion option expiry on Friday which outwardly went by like a damp squib. However since the major puts will have now expired there is no immediate pressure to the downside and hedges may need to be repurchased. My bet for the short term is a bear market rally, how strong I really don't know but could move up to the 3900 or 4000 resistance. In fact 4000 has played a key role in the medium term history that 4000 is more likely than 3900. Lets see! You never know Vince maybe something happens which does cause a crash!
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Cool Breeze wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:47 am
richard5za wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:42 am John, I happen think that your deflationery forecast using generational theory will prove correct, just allow time for the economic misery to develop. As as far as buying gold etc, yes, I do think there is a short term opportunity as a safe haven, but that recessionery forces will wack it down again. I have never bought crypto and don't think I ever will. I simply cannot make any sense of crypto pricing other than bubble mania.
My thesis has already proven right as inflation has led to a possible deflation, which I said over a year ago and which the Fed is supporting now as they are intentionally trying to curb inflation by destroying the wealth effect. That's when it will shine and if bad times are coming, it'll be one of the few flights to safety, as it's pretty clear those days are on the horizon.
Cool, you and I have a different understanding of economics and markets. We will forever talk past each other
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