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Re: Financial topics

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:32 am
by vincecate
If we are going to keep following 2008 then it should be down soon. Hum.

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Re: Financial topics

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:33 pm
by vincecate
So far Inflation in the Eurozone and Japan is not looking transitory.

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Re: Financial topics

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:25 pm
by Cool Breeze
It'll be looking bad, big time, by the end of January. They are very jittery in trading currently, though

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:29 am
by richard5za
John wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:27 pm
aeden wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:13 pm I agree as the carnage of working class now being crushing as productivity divided annually to absorb the current global usury charges.
Like a can that meets a vacuum in plain sight. Early but game on.
https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dsh ... n-december
Validating the S&P Composite Stock Price Index, or let's say rope burn we discussed some time back H.
Some concerned of that other frog near the blender switch.

that's my kind of graph!
From a generational dynamics perspective you were absolutely right to publish this chart, and I have no doubt that the market will soundly correct at some point.
But that point is unknown and we are actually talking about short term market girations and sentiment rather than 90 year generational cycles. Which is important to some like myself since I am a short term trader. And I suppose to some extent its guessing the point at which the long term trend becomes a bit clearer. As we have been discussing since 2006 (before this website) at some stage the PE ratio will fall to below 10, as it has done historically.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:34 am
by richard5za
I suspect that the CPI figure tomorrow will be lower that expectation:

The dollar (DXY) has a bearish feel
Gold has a bullish feel

And this tweet is apparantley from JP Morgan
https://twitter.com/AndrewHiesinger/sta ... F66PPesVPA

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:37 am
by aeden
Over 40 percent is non alighned on the Planet invading OECD zones.
Policy is Alinsky rhetoric point blnak
SPX 4100 - 4300 baseline 34xx
Of 38 OECD countries, 18 recorded inflation in double digits.

pretext: https://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2765#p2765

As M indicated as time has tempered on rates was.

We are in a mess that we can only get through, not around. Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:43 am
https://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2761#p2761
Some found market information and implemented maps you ignored.

thread:taproot, lightswitch, capex

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:33 pm
by Higgenbotham
Higgenbotham wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:02 pm
Higgenbotham wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:49 am I'm starting to short again just now. Slowly.

If the December high near 4100 was an important top, the market is at about the 50% retrace now, so another leg down could start here. Another interpretation commonly used is that the breakout out of the long range from mid-December to early January will carry to the width of the range, targeting 4000+. Finally, if the market gets really carried away but is still a bear market, it could carry as high as 4200.
I covered shorts on this 15 point dip. I'm leaning toward the market being in a holding pattern until Thursday at which point I will be a little more inclined to hold shorts longer on a move lower.
I'm starting to short again around 3950. Very slowly. I will be doing less than 2 days ago on this second trip up to this level. If the market rises on tomorrow morning's CPI, I will add more.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:36 pm
by aeden
Agree with a possible 200 MA slaughter FOMO window brewing. The feeling is palatable we we watch the DXY death cross.

If/then on the cpi print indicates a rise into if/because (((headwinds))) later of the decieved into debt swirling Uniparty fools talking points
as the retards before we owe it to ourself brain dead blather debt ceiling lie cheat steal talking points.
Pop into drop map appears very valid.
Every one know the democrats got nothing, nada, bug zapper reality trolls already discussed from the Beach Bums cult.

Seen 768 million addition to production in Austin.
California is as dead as New Yorks ability to even survive.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:53 pm
by Higgenbotham
Higgenbotham wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:33 pm
Higgenbotham wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:02 pm
Higgenbotham wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:49 am I'm starting to short again just now. Slowly.

If the December high near 4100 was an important top, the market is at about the 50% retrace now, so another leg down could start here. Another interpretation commonly used is that the breakout out of the long range from mid-December to early January will carry to the width of the range, targeting 4000+. Finally, if the market gets really carried away but is still a bear market, it could carry as high as 4200.
I covered shorts on this 15 point dip. I'm leaning toward the market being in a holding pattern until Thursday at which point I will be a little more inclined to hold shorts longer on a move lower.
I'm starting to short again around 3950. Very slowly. I will be doing less than 2 days ago on this second trip up to this level. If the market rises on tomorrow morning's CPI, I will add more.
Brought it to about 1/3 position on the further move up into the close. I will not be moving to 2/3 if there is a move into the second target zone of 4000+.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:58 am
by richard5za
Higgenbotham wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:53 pm
Higgenbotham wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:33 pm
Higgenbotham wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:02 pm

I covered shorts on this 15 point dip. I'm leaning toward the market being in a holding pattern until Thursday at which point I will be a little more inclined to hold shorts longer on a move lower.
I'm starting to short again around 3950. Very slowly. I will be doing less than 2 days ago on this second trip up to this level. If the market rises on tomorrow morning's CPI, I will add more.
Brought it to about 1/3 position on the further move up into the close. I will not be moving to 2/3 if there is a move into the second target zone of 4000+.
I suspect that 2023 is a choppy, short term trend year, rather than a year that has a direction as predicted by generational dynamics. I am seeing the 3900 to 4050 points as key to a year that will girate between 3240 and 4250. It may well be below the 3900 level for much of the year but should end at around 3900 to 4000. It could be a year of very profitable trading or a year of big losses, depending upon how one trades the price action. I have no doubt that earnings will be under pressure and will pave the way for the longer term fall in PE ratios. So lets see what happens.