Generational Dynamics Forum - New Site

Navigator wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:47 pm
I am hoping that all of this can be done quickly, as I figure the window for preparation will be closing soon, probably 3-6 months.

Navigator wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:16 pm > Thanks for ideas and support!

> I believe in being prepared, but I am not an extreme prepper. I
> believe that we have to go through quite a daunting sequence of
> events before things truly fall apart, but even then, there is
> hope for a better future.

> We have quite an advanced and interconnected society. It will
> take quite some doing to bring it down. But, as John points out,
> things are in motion.

Guest Prepper wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:04 am > Hi Navigator!

> I enjoy your views. You are very much centered like my Marine
> Vietnam Veteran husband. He is the most honorable man I know.

> I have been a prepper since I was born. While I do not have the
> funds to support you right now in your endeavor, I do have a few
> ideas for you, free of charge.

> This is the work of a lifetime and I do not want to give away or
> sell the bulk of it. But if this outline has anything you can use,
> please do.

> Folders:
> 1. Power Outages/Solar Flares/EMP
> 2. Pandemic/Medical Shortages/Food Shortages/Water Shortages
> 3. Nuclear War/Invasion/Civil Unrest
> 4. Financial Crisis
> 5. Fire
> 6. Volcano
> 7. Earthquake/Tsunami
> 8. Flood
> 9. Tornado/Hurricane/Sand & Dust Storms
> 10. Blizzards/Ice Storms

> Having a specific written list of what to do eliminates shock,
> confusion and disorganization of doing the unnecessary. Each
> folder has a list of what to do immediately, steps to take to
> insure continuation, and living in the aftermath. Each folder
> gives particular instruction for the area where we live. For
> instance, I would have my family packed up, gassed up and headed
> for southern Texas in about an hour in the event that Yellowstone
> erupted. It also has a map with the direct routes and alternate
> routes highlighted. Although there is little chance for our area
> being hit by a tsunami, there would be probable consequences of
> shortages of items that would need to be stocked up on if one hit
> the east or west coasts. This shopping list would need to be done
> immediately before the general population realizes there might be
> shortages. The folders would be easy to combine in the event of
> several emergencies happening at once. For almost every bug-in
> situation, there is instruction to fill the 50 gallon water
> storage containers and turn off the sewer lines. For my family,
> there is specific who-does-what list of preparations.

> Sub-Folders:
> 1. Safety/Weapons
> 2. Food & Water (This includes how to raise chickens)
> 3. Medical
> 4. Weather/Staying Warm or Cooling Off
> 5. Animal Care
> 6. Pest Infestation/Wildlife Invasion
> 7. Garden/Seeds/Food Preservation
> 8. Psychological Impact/Religious Inspiration
> 9. Bug-In/Bug-Out
> 10. Community Governance
> 11. Barter Economy
> 12. Energy Production

> The sub-folders are universal and go with every folder. Each
> sub-folder has tabbed sections. For instance, the Energy
> Production has tabbed sections for generator maintenance, how to
> build a gasifier, etc. Some of the sub-folders are really boxes
> such as Food & Water filled with survival food cooking recipes and
> the Medical is filled with alternative medicine, field emergency
> and first aid books. Every folder and sub-folder tells where to
> find particular items in the house, such as a drawer full of extra
> batteries, bug-out bags, important paperwork, even not to forget
> the Christmas candles and where that box is located, etc.

> I call all of this my "no internet, no problem" work of art. I
> hope you find it useful in some way.

Jeepdinger wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:10 am > China rhetoric continues to push for military action. They are
> just spinning it as preparation for US attack.

> https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1633 ... litary-war

> Question continues to just be, when?

John wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:29 am ** 12-Aug-2020 World View: Prepping

Navigator wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:16 pm > Thanks for ideas and support!

> I believe in being prepared, but I am not an extreme prepper. I
> believe that we have to go through quite a daunting sequence of
> events before things truly fall apart, but even then, there is
> hope for a better future.

> We have quite an advanced and interconnected society. It will
> take quite some doing to bring it down. But, as John points out,
> things are in motion.

It would be worthwhile to give a nod to the preppers. There are a lot
of people who are interested in information of this type. A related
question that I've been asked frequently is, "Where can I move to where
it's safe?" There have been various suggested answers over the years.
I personally know (or used to know) several families that moved to
bunkers in the Midwest.

I think that this is a very interesting and valuable list:

Guest Prepper wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:04 am > Hi Navigator!

> I enjoy your views. You are very much centered like my Marine
> Vietnam Veteran husband. He is the most honorable man I know.

> I have been a prepper since I was born. While I do not have the
> funds to support you right now in your endeavor, I do have a few
> ideas for you, free of charge.

> This is the work of a lifetime and I do not want to give away or
> sell the bulk of it. But if this outline has anything you can use,
> please do.

> Folders:
> 1. Power Outages/Solar Flares/EMP
> 2. Pandemic/Medical Shortages/Food Shortages/Water Shortages
> 3. Nuclear War/Invasion/Civil Unrest
> 4. Financial Crisis
> 5. Fire
> 6. Volcano
> 7. Earthquake/Tsunami
> 8. Flood
> 9. Tornado/Hurricane/Sand & Dust Storms
> 10. Blizzards/Ice Storms

> Having a specific written list of what to do eliminates shock,
> confusion and disorganization of doing the unnecessary. Each
> folder has a list of what to do immediately, steps to take to
> insure continuation, and living in the aftermath. Each folder
> gives particular instruction for the area where we live. For
> instance, I would have my family packed up, gassed up and headed
> for southern Texas in about an hour in the event that Yellowstone
> erupted. It also has a map with the direct routes and alternate
> routes highlighted. Although there is little chance for our area
> being hit by a tsunami, there would be probable consequences of
> shortages of items that would need to be stocked up on if one hit
> the east or west coasts. This shopping list would need to be done
> immediately before the general population realizes there might be
> shortages. The folders would be easy to combine in the event of
> several emergencies happening at once. For almost every bug-in
> situation, there is instruction to fill the 50 gallon water
> storage containers and turn off the sewer lines. For my family,
> there is specific who-does-what list of preparations.

> Sub-Folders:
> 1. Safety/Weapons
> 2. Food & Water (This includes how to raise chickens)
> 3. Medical
> 4. Weather/Staying Warm or Cooling Off
> 5. Animal Care
> 6. Pest Infestation/Wildlife Invasion
> 7. Garden/Seeds/Food Preservation
> 8. Psychological Impact/Religious Inspiration
> 9. Bug-In/Bug-Out
> 10. Community Governance
> 11. Barter Economy
> 12. Energy Production

> The sub-folders are universal and go with every folder. Each
> sub-folder has tabbed sections. For instance, the Energy
> Production has tabbed sections for generator maintenance, how to
> build a gasifier, etc. Some of the sub-folders are really boxes
> such as Food & Water filled with survival food cooking recipes and
> the Medical is filled with alternative medicine, field emergency
> and first aid books. Every folder and sub-folder tells where to
> find particular items in the house, such as a drawer full of extra
> batteries, bug-out bags, important paperwork, even not to forget
> the Christmas candles and where that box is located, etc.

> I call all of this my "no internet, no problem" work of art. I
> hope you find it useful in some way.

"Guest Prepper" seems to be totally obsessed with this subject, but
it's an obsession that may save her family.

Navigator wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:13 pm I started writing again for my own site. I think I can put out an article at least once a week.

The new article is a bit more controversial than ones I have written in the past.

https://www.comingstorms.com

Navigator wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:11 pm

John wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:29 am ** 12-Aug-2020 World View: Prepping

Navigator wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:16 pm > Thanks for ideas and support!

> I believe in being prepared, but I am not an extreme prepper. I
> believe that we have to go through quite a daunting sequence of
> events before things truly fall apart, but even then, there is
> hope for a better future.

> We have quite an advanced and interconnected society. It will
> take quite some doing to bring it down. But, as John points out,
> things are in motion.

It would be worthwhile to give a nod to the preppers. There are a lot
of people who are interested in information of this type. A related
question that I've been asked frequently is, "Where can I move to where
it's safe?" There have been various suggested answers over the years.
I personally know (or used to know) several families that moved to
bunkers in the Midwest.

I think that this is a very interesting and valuable list:

Guest Prepper wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:04 am > Hi Navigator!

> I enjoy your views. You are very much centered like my Marine
> Vietnam Veteran husband. He is the most honorable man I know.

> I have been a prepper since I was born. While I do not have the
> funds to support you right now in your endeavor, I do have a few
> ideas for you, free of charge.

> This is the work of a lifetime and I do not want to give away or
> sell the bulk of it. But if this outline has anything you can use,
> please do.

> Folders:
> 1. Power Outages/Solar Flares/EMP
> 2. Pandemic/Medical Shortages/Food Shortages/Water Shortages
> 3. Nuclear War/Invasion/Civil Unrest
> 4. Financial Crisis
> 5. Fire
> 6. Volcano
> 7. Earthquake/Tsunami
> 8. Flood
> 9. Tornado/Hurricane/Sand & Dust Storms
> 10. Blizzards/Ice Storms

> Having a specific written list of what to do eliminates shock,
> confusion and disorganization of doing the unnecessary. Each
> folder has a list of what to do immediately, steps to take to
> insure continuation, and living in the aftermath. Each folder
> gives particular instruction for the area where we live. For
> instance, I would have my family packed up, gassed up and headed
> for southern Texas in about an hour in the event that Yellowstone
> erupted. It also has a map with the direct routes and alternate
> routes highlighted. Although there is little chance for our area
> being hit by a tsunami, there would be probable consequences of
> shortages of items that would need to be stocked up on if one hit
> the east or west coasts. This shopping list would need to be done
> immediately before the general population realizes there might be
> shortages. The folders would be easy to combine in the event of
> several emergencies happening at once. For almost every bug-in
> situation, there is instruction to fill the 50 gallon water
> storage containers and turn off the sewer lines. For my family,
> there is specific who-does-what list of preparations.

> Sub-Folders:
> 1. Safety/Weapons
> 2. Food & Water (This includes how to raise chickens)
> 3. Medical
> 4. Weather/Staying Warm or Cooling Off
> 5. Animal Care
> 6. Pest Infestation/Wildlife Invasion
> 7. Garden/Seeds/Food Preservation
> 8. Psychological Impact/Religious Inspiration
> 9. Bug-In/Bug-Out
> 10. Community Governance
> 11. Barter Economy
> 12. Energy Production

> The sub-folders are universal and go with every folder. Each
> sub-folder has tabbed sections. For instance, the Energy
> Production has tabbed sections for generator maintenance, how to
> build a gasifier, etc. Some of the sub-folders are really boxes
> such as Food & Water filled with survival food cooking recipes and
> the Medical is filled with alternative medicine, field emergency
> and first aid books. Every folder and sub-folder tells where to
> find particular items in the house, such as a drawer full of extra
> batteries, bug-out bags, important paperwork, even not to forget
> the Christmas candles and where that box is located, etc.

> I call all of this my "no internet, no problem" work of art. I
> hope you find it useful in some way.

"Guest Prepper" seems to be totally obsessed with this subject, but
it's an obsession that may save her family.

I agree that what "Guest Prepper" has come up with is an excellent and comprehensive list. And I agree that it will be of immense help to her and her family as things go bad.

My remark on not being an "Extreme" Prepper is aimed at explaining that while I feel it is important (and prudent) to be prepared, I do not advocate running to the hills and going into isolation.

We will soon be at war, and we need to be prepared to live in a wartime situation, while at the same time be able to contribute to the war effort. This, to me, means being prepared at home, and able to help others (starting with my extended family, then to the neighborhood, then further out). Americans have a great tradition of doing this, and it will resurface in most areas as we go through trying times.

As for moving, and I get asked that too, I would say that going away from Megacities (like NYC or Chicago) to mid sized or smaller cities is best, but most have to go to where they can find employment.

The cities or areas to avoid are those that will become deathtraps when there are serious interruptions to basic sources of energy/life. For example, Phoenix and Las Vegas are deathtraps when there is no air conditioning, and that is what is going to happen.