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The book I have been writing is almost complete. The last quarter is at the editor for review. It will take her maybe two days, then another day or two for me to finish up and add a table of contents (I will not do an index as you can just do a search in an electronic document like this book).

Now is the time to make donations. Tell your family you want it as one of your Christmas gifts!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/coming-storms-preparation

From what I gather, there are a lot of intelligent posters on this board. Let's not go too far though. Many of us intelligent people think that we are smarter than we are, when the reality is, if at all true, we just happen to be wiser or open to critical thinking in ways others are not. In the modern world, this manifests itself as a distinction in two ways: propensity towards the collective, and the lack of wisdom regarding our own spiritual disease(s). Sadly, the collective and the conformist goes all the way from a leftist social conformist, who goes along with the crowd, and is likely helped by "joining" but as an individual doesn't know all that much. Especially when the culture or civilization is wealthy, it means little to that person or others that they are leading to its slow downfall. Then you have the smart manipulators of the rest, the elites and the global elites. Typically these are far more spiritually diseased since they are proud and in many instances (the real top of the food chain) actively know they are doing quite evil or destructive things. That leaves the rest of us who go against the grain and know it, but also have universal truths of God that are more important to us, regardless of how many sins we also might otherwise have. Just like in politics, we tend to not be deluded that we are not sinful but rather accept (this separates wheat and chaff among conservatives) the realities of the world and even our own shortcomings (few do this regardless of predisposition, at all).

Someone who understands the world, like "tim", who has pointed out important things, will understand that the reality of the world is that it is cold and self centered, ultimately about survival in its biological processes. But we humans are different in that we can at least strive to overcome the brutalness of the world and seek virtue, at least here and there, and asking for forgiveness otherwise. These are gifts from God. This is actually why following Jesus Christ is the true path; He has told us to seek other things that are eternal. Why? We already know that conquering and eating and drinking, etc are what we are biologically (self centered, trying to preserve ourselves): we don't need others to tell us the ends or "gifts" of those actions (this is why a guy like Muhammad is nothing special and a false prophet, he offers nothing we don't already know just by knowing nature's brutality).

We are traditional and conservative, etc because we accept life for what it is and are honest about it. We don't see utopia, it doesn't exist, we seek (or try to seek) virtue. I would suggest that having a right mindset regarding human frailty is a gift and even suffering is a gift from God, so I urge you all to be more thoughtful. You will suffer, you are a human - but you are meant for more. We can only do so much with the times, or the signs of the times. And if we're honest, we're not always right. But we are right to suspect currently that there are many things going in the wrong direction. Many.

I hope we all can get more out of contemplating all of these things, and each other's ideas. Keep going gentlemen.

So, last night I decided to spend a few hours looking into the concept of the "American Nations."

For those who are unaware of this concept, in 2011 Colin Woodard released a book titled American Nations. This book proposes that the United States can be divided into several different "nations" with entirely different cultures. The nature of these cultures were largely determined by the cultures of the original settlers.

Below is a colorized version of the map that Woodard created for his book, courtesy of Business Insider.



Notice that the divisions are made at the county level. I decided to make my own version of that map, but with the divisions at the state level. I did this because I believe that if America were ever to break up, the states likely would align according to the cultures mentioned in Woodard's book. Note that I did only the contiguous 48 states.



The alignments are determined by which counties each state's population lives in. Based on my research, 43 of the contiguous 48 states have an absolute majority of their populations living in counties that are within a single cultural zones. The other 5 are what I refer to as "cleft states."

The alignments are as follows:

Deep South: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, and South Carolina

El Norte: Arizona and California

Far West: Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming

Greater Appalachia: Arkansas, Indiana, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and West Virginia

Left Coast: Oregon and Washington

Midlands: Delaware, Iowa, Kansas, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, and Pennsylvania

New France: Louisiana

New Netherland: New Jersey and New York

Tidewater: Virginia

Yankeedom: Connecticut, Illinois, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Wisconsin



Cleft States: North Carolina*, North Dakota**, Ohio***, South Dakota**, and Texas****

*The plurality of North Carolina's population belongs to Greater Appalachia, but there are also significant minorities who belong to the Deep South or Tidewater.

**The plurality of the population in both Dakotas belongs to Yankeedom, but there are also significant minorities who belong to the Far West or the Midlands.

***The plurality Ohio's population belongs to Greater Appalachia, but there are also significant minorities who belong to the Midlands and Yankeedom.

****The plurality of Texas' population belongs to Greater Appalachia, but there are also significant minorities who belong to the Deep South, El Norte, and the Midlands.

Guest wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:34 am I'm a different guest from the other guests. I had to comment on one point:

If violence between blacks and Mexicans is "out of control" then
it's certainly an extremely well-kept secret. I read and see a lot
of news, and I've never seen even a hint of this.

If what you say is true, then maybe it isn't being reported by the
mainstream media, but surely it would be reported by the Spanish
language media. Can you provide some links to articles in Spanish
language media that discuss this? (I speak a little Spanish and, of
course, I can get any article translated online into English.)

I have seen and experienced this myself on the West coast, the Southeastern US, and in Washington D.C. And yes, it is unreported. I have never seen any reports detailing Black vs Latino violence in the places I have lived. I can't provide any links because there aren't any. Look at the YT video linked to by another guest about Mexicans (some were wearing Mexican flags in the video) fighting with Black rioters/looters in Chicago. Gunshots, bricks and rocks were exchanged. I have never heard anything about these clashes on the MSM, but they are all over social media (and then rapidly deleted). Twitter wants to control the narrative.

Black vs Latino violence is common. I don't know if it is "out of control" because I avoid those neighborhoods. I have heard about it from co-workers on an almost daily basis. I would say if it isn't out of control, it's getting there quickly. The Latinos that I have worked with hate Black people; I'd say 100% of the Latinos I know hate black people. Even mixed race (part black) Latinos (Domincans) hate Black Americans. I have Dominican friends in New Jersey, just over from NYC, and the high schools in those areas are battlefields. Look at what is going on In Columbia Heights in D.C..

I don't doubt that you have never heard of any of this, John. Most of my white friends are unaware of it too. But the violence is getting closer to us every day. Closer to you too.

I was surprised to find this article about Black-Latino violence in Chicago. Of course, the article was written in the context of bridging the gap between the respective communities. It discusses the fact that this violence was documented on social media.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyl ... story.html

What I took notice of most in this article was that it states that Cicero, which was formerly a white blue collar community that was aggressively defended by its residents has become, in the words of the article, a "predominantly Latino community". I was last in that area 15 years ago.

At that time, I was selling my last rental house, which was located about 100 miles from Chicago. That area had some food plants around it. Not meat processing, but vegetable processing. An old white guy came to look at the house I think just for entertainment and he told me on the way out that maybe I could sell it to Mexicans. I wondered what he was talking about and whether he had all his marbles. A short time later, a Mexican guy called and said he wanted to look at the house. I would note that from the sounds of the conversation we had that he was going to be the only person showing up. I went over to the house by myself and a van pulled up in the street and 8 or 10 Mexicans crawled out of the van. They very slowly approached up the driveway, moving in a pack. When they got about 15 feet from me, I assumed an aggressive stance and yelled out to them,

"WHO'S BUYING THE HOUSE?"

A woman (the only woman there) slowly raised her hand. Then I yelled,

"WHO'S GOT THE MONEY?"

A man raised his hand. By that time, they were maybe 8 feet away from me. I told them that only those two people were going into the house and the rest of them were staying outside. They didn't say a word except maybe they said OK. When I got done taking the 2 Mexicans through the house, a boy who was maybe 16 asked me if he could look at it because he would be living there if they bought it. I said he could but he was going through the house with me and everyone else was staying outside. After that, we stood in the driveway and the guy who said he had the money gave me a cash offer. I think he had the cash in his pocket. I rejected the offer but my guess would be that they kept saving their cash and it wasn't too long before they had a house. I know there is now a substantial "Latino" population in that community.

A little bit about Cicero:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/real-est ... story.html

In 1920, 92 percent of residents were recent immigrants, mostly Czech and Polish. While nearby suburbs became integrated, Cicero remained white until the recent influx of Hispanics. So long-lasting was Cicero's anti-black discrimination, that Time magazine in 1966 called Cicero the "Selma without the Southern drawl."

Long an enclave for generations of Eastern Europeans, Cicero finds itself rapidly evolving as a largely Hispanic population embraces its family-oriented atmosphere and housing that's priced right.

You don't have to look far to see the transformation. At Community Park on a Sunday afternoon, stroller pushers peruse vendors selling sombreros and jewelry. Supermercados bustle with shoppers picking up last-minute items for backyard barbecues. Children line up for their share of Mexican sweet buns at a local bakery.

I haven't seen anything in MSM on Black vs Latino violence since the late 1980s in Cali. That's when the high schools had mass brawls between Mexicans and Blacks. I know that the violence has never ended. It has just gone unreported or under reported or reported in a way that excludes or minimizes the racial aspects.

There is a race war brewing between most ethnic groups. (However I think that Whites and Asians will work togther.) Both Blacks and Mexicans are extremely aggressive and violent. I learned that from attending a mostly Black and Latino high school. There were fights constantly. The few white students that attended were left largely alone because we self-segregated and no one cared that we did. The Blacks and Latinos (and Asians) all did as well. Classes were also divided into basic, regular, advanced, and AP, though I don't remember the exact category names now. Whites and Asians usually ended up in the advanced and AP courses, Blacks and Latinos in the bottom two. We only barely interacted in the cafeteria, where we sat at separate tables.

It was an unpleasant experience for me and virtually all of the Whites and Asians. I graduated from high school in the late 80s, and it was bad then. I can't imagine what it would be like for White students at my old HS now. Most of my white friends send their kids to private schools or home school them. Or they move to Idaho or Wyoming. Whites are on the run, especially the middle class.

I don't want a civil war, but the racial divide is real. I have decades of experience regarding this. I left and now live away from Blacks and Latinos. It's better. I am safer and the neighborhood is calm and clean. When I lived in a Black neighborhood for a year in the late 80s with my mother, we where robbed and lived in fear. I would rather live in the wilderness and fend off bears than return to a Black neighborhood. I don't hate anyone, but I have to survive and protect my family. I will not put my loved ones in harms way just to virtue signal.

You guys overrate this all. Now, that doesn't mean that race issues aren't real, they are --- clearly biological realities. The but here though is that until there are real economic implications here and now, it'll be the same stuff and we'll still be spouting stuff off on the internet. Multiculturalism is a failure without religion (christian in this case) to hold it together. Very successful empires had different people, and historically they probably self segregated to a large extent, but if you have a religion like Christianity you can pull off peace, honesty and diplomacy. The Byzantines did for a long, long time. Either way, you need that and a dominant culture to keep others in line. We lost ours here and American to modernism and secularism, religions of a different type which believe in nothing.

As an aside, I know about Cicero quite well. I grew up close by. It's been Mexican nearly all my life. Yes, it was an older American neighborhood city with many european immigrants, but last known as that it was a mafioso italian place. Lots of shady grifters and many ended up in jail or prison.

Again, fundamentally the sovereign debt system is broken all around the world but these guys have gotten increasingly better at putting things off and getting away with it. Look at Japan for the functional saving - though yes they are homogeneous and have a greater ability to maintain their identity and harmony. Still, QE and Central Banking show that it can be done; of course, it just postpones greater crises or majorly decreasing standards of living or decline in middle class.

16-Dec-20 World View -- China escalates hostility with Australia through threatened coal ban


China's delusional geopolitical strategy

** 16-Dec-20 World View -- China escalates hostility with Australia through threatened coal ban
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e201216



Contents:
China escalates hostility with Australia through threatened coal ban
New evidence of massive slavery of Uighurs in China
China's delusional geopolitical strategy
Cognitive dissonance


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, China, Wuhan Coronavirus,
Uighurs, Xinjiang, Tibetans,
Ji Jinping, Adolf Hitler, Julius Caesar, Abraham Lincoln,
Leon Festinger, cognitive dissonance,
Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden

Ex West Coast wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:07 am I haven't seen anything in MSM on Black vs Latino violence since the late 1980s in Cali. That's when the high schools had mass brawls between Mexicans and Blacks. I know that the violence has never ended. It has just gone unreported or under reported or reported in a way that excludes or minimizes the racial aspects.

There is a race war brewing between most ethnic groups. (However I think that Whites and Asians will work togther.) Both Blacks and Mexicans are extremely aggressive and violent. I learned that from attending a mostly Black and Latino high school. There were fights constantly. The few white students that attended were left largely alone because we self-segregated and no one cared that we did. The Blacks and Latinos (and Asians) all did as well. Classes were also divided into basic, regular, advanced, and AP, though I don't remember the exact category names now. Whites and Asians usually ended up in the advanced and AP courses, Blacks and Latinos in the bottom two. We only barely interacted in the cafeteria, where we sat at separate tables.

It was an unpleasant experience for me and virtually all of the Whites and Asians....

But don't worry, like John says, when WWWIII happens, every one of those groups will cease hating each other and will all join hands and sing for the glory of the United States. They will start eating apple pie at every meal, and watch basketball in harmony together. They will offer their hand to you in comradeship and brotherhood. They will open their homes to you and break bread with your family and share birthdays, barbecues, and invite you to their Quinceaneras. Everyone will hoist banners and posters featuring our fearless leader Kamala Harris (Biden will soon be in an infirmary), as we march to victory with a strong woman warrior leading us.

HAHA , just kidding bro, it was just a prank BRO.

Actually the US is totally f*cked, and it doesn't even matter if and when WWWIII happens. It will split up into ethnic enclaves with Latinos controlling most of it, and possible genocide of African Americans at the hands of Latinos. You can bet Louis Farrakhan knows this and is stockpiling weapons as we speak. The people in power will try to delay it as long as possible with trainloads, shiploads, planeloads of printed money to bribe the violent groups.

Biden is preparing to open the borders wide and the caravans are already forming. I know, I know, it's fine, since once they cross the Rio Grande and get free stuff, the magic fairy dust will cover them and they will pacify and become Macy's shoppers and watch Good Morning America and Price is Right gameshows. And the recruiting station won't be able to handle the influx of motivated warriors ready to lay down their lives to fight the Chinese.

HAHAHAHA - just kidding BRO!

Burner Prime wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:17 pmBut don't worry, like John says, when WWWIII happens, every one of those groups will cease hating each other and will all join hands and sing for the glory of the United States. They will start eating apple pie at every meal, and watch basketball in harmony together. They will offer their hand to you in comradeship and brotherhood. They will open their homes to you and break bread with your family and share birthdays, barbecues, and invite you to their Quinceaneras. Everyone will hoist banners and posters featuring our fearless leader Kamala Harris (Biden will soon be in an infirmary), as we march to victory with a strong woman warrior leading us.

HAHA , just kidding bro, it was just a prank BRO.

When WWIII begins, there won't be that many apple pies to eat, because all the food will be rationed. There won't be any basketball games to watch, because the players will be going to war. Any festivities like birthday parties and barbeques will be limited and meager, because the resources needed to make them possible will be scarce.

Life will be pretty shitty for everybody, regardless of demographic. Most people will be living a "to and from work" lifestyle, at best. At worst, they will have virtually no quality of life at all, because everything has been destroyed by warfare. And the only way to escape is by having the war end somehow. At that point, the people as a whole will have to make a choice on how to end the war. During WWII, most people believed that America was worth saving, and thus chose to end the war by winning it. Whether that will repeat during WWIII is up to all of us.

I expect China's going to get away with a great deal more before anything happens. Take a look at how much territory Germany grabbed before Britain and France stood up. I asked people I know of all political stripes what we should do if China invaded Taiwan and each time, the response was: "Screw them, it's not our problem."

We've got absolutely no mood for any kind of conflict, increasingly seeing each other as the real enemy. I expect things are going to go back to appeasement with Kamala's Presidency (I doubt Biden will last long) Much easier to demonize people over climate change than prepare.

I've asked myself for years: if you knew what was going to happen, could you prepare for it? After everything that's happened, I would have to conclude no. Nobody wants to hear it, any more than Europe wanted to hear about the threat Hitler represented. Future generations will laugh at our stupidity, just as we shake our heads at those in the 1930s. China's got an additional weapon as well: playing the race card, because they know it's a sensitive issue in the West.

Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines; what would we really be willing to do? I don't doubt many residents in those countries are asking the same question and they don't like the answer.