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John wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:03 pm
** 03-Jan-2021 World View: Electoral College certification
  • Democrats and the media lied every day about having explosive
    evidence of Trump's guilt, when such evidence was nonexistent.
  • The Mueller report was hugely embarrasing to the Democrats and the
    media because, after three years, they couldn't find a scintilla of
    evidence to charge Trump with, indirectly proving that Trump, unlike
    the Democrats and the media, is completely free of corruption.
  • Adam Schiff, who lied on a daily basis, made up a phony transcript
    of a phone call between Trump and Ukraine's president. Trump was then
    able to release the actual transcript, making Schiff look like a piece
    of garbage, but that never stopped him.
  • During the Ukraine hearings, every witness was forced to recant
    his testimony under cross examination by the Republicans. But the
    mainstream media lied about that every day, reporting "explosive
    testimony."
  • Ambassador Gordon Sondland was forced to change his testimony to
    lie for Adam Schiff when Oregon Democratic Rep. Earl Blumenauer called
    on antifa-blm and other activists to riot and threaten Sondland's
    family and businesses. This was censored by the Democrats and
    media.
  • Jonathan Turley's family was also threatened with violence by
    Democrats when he testified that the impeachment couldn't be
    justified. This was censored by the Democrats and media.
  • The Democrats and mainstream media were embarrassed again when the
    whole impeachment effort flopped -- because there was no evidence to
    support the charges.
  • Throughout 2020, when antifa-blm fascists were rioting and burning
    down cities across the country, the Democrats and media censored it.
    It was really laughable when the Democrat National Convention didn't
    even mention the ongoing antifa-blm fascist violence.
  • As evidence grew of Hunter and Joe Biden's involvement in
    influence peddling, money laundering and tax evasion in Ukraine,
    Russia and China, the Democrats censored the news. The most
    ridiculous example occurred when the NY Post's story about the laptop
    was completely censored by the media, and even linking to the story
    was censored.
  • During the initial investigations of voter fraud by Trump
    supporters, a number of poll workers and Republican poll watchers were
    threatened and intimidated by Democrats, sometimes putting their
    families in danger. The Democrats and media censored this. Trump
    supporters claim that judges were acutely aware of these threats and
    to the similar threats to Sondland and others, and refused to put
    their lives or families in danger by scheduling a trial on the fraud
    charges. As a result of the threats of violence, all the charges were
    simply thrown out, according to Trump supporters.
I agree with almost everything on this list. Before I go further, I would point out that I am conservative in my views. I believe that Hillary had to be defeated in the last election. As a result, Trump was able to place 3 outstanding judges on the Supreme Court. They should be able to stop the legislation from the bench that has been going on for decades, as well as the ridiculous "non-constitutional" rulings that have nothing to do with the constitution.

Having mentioned Hillary, Trump is now doing what Hillary did when she lost. She had supporters hound electoral college electors and had street demonstrations, and then, of course, there was the whole "Russians stole the election for Trump" thing that went on for years and found absolutely nothing.

In my opinion, had there been fraud, the Dems would not have done so badly in the congressional elections. Those would have been "fixed" too. Instead, the Democrats did much worse than they thought they would in congressional elections.

Had there been any substantial evidence of fraud, the Attorney General would have been all over it. The lawsuits would have progressed. Even Trump's election security guy said that there was no fraud. The new norm, thanks to Hillary BTW, is that if you lose, there was interference or fraud.

I think that Trump shot himself in the foot (head rather) by doing the following things:
1. Insulting McCain, even after he died. This cost him Arizona, where republicans who liked and admired McCain, actively campaigned against Trump. It also cost him the support of a lot of veterans who rightly viewed McCain as a war hero for what he went through in the Hanoi Hilton.

2. Telling supporters that mail-in voting could not be trusted, actively encouraging them NOT to vote by mail.

3. All the Time on TV during the initial briefings on Covid - where he appeared uninformed and without any real plan.

4. The first Presidential debate. Where he acted so un-presidential that he turned off a lot of people. He did much better in the next debate, but the damage had been done.

Am I happy that Biden won the election? No. Do I think Trump should declare martial law? I think that is treason.

Trump was certainly within his rights to do everything he could to dispute the election.

What is happening now is dangerous to our democracy, just as Hillary's accusations were. If people stop trusting the ballot box and election results, our country's democracy is endangered.

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Trump may very well be in the initial phases of destroying the Republican party.

Biden, on the other hand, will play a large part in the destruction of the Democratic party. He is the last "middle ground" guy they have left.

Do I think he will do well as president? No. I think that he will be a disaster. What is coming in terms of economic crises, China moving against Taiwan, and of course his own familial corruption, is going to be far too much for his administration to handle.

The people he is putting into cabinet positions are, for the most part, the people Hillary would have put in. I think that he has made a good choice for the Defense Secretary, passing over the bureaucrat with no actual military experience that he was initially going to pick.

Putting Susan Rice into his administration will lead to a giant disaster. She is an incompetent hack who is going to get a lot of people killed. A lot more than in the Benghazi fiasco.

He is waiting to make a pick for Attorney General because he is going to pick someone to protect him like Holder protected Obama. Sessions, in hindsight, should have done that for Trump, but he was trying to be an honest person, and it backfired on him. Biden's AG pick will do everything possible to sweep the blatant Biden family corruption under the rug and stonewall any investigation.

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I don't think that the USA has had an outstanding president since Eisenhower. Each one after him was deeply flawed and made huge mistakes.

I think Reagan did a lot to restore America and win the Cold War, but he threw fiscal conservatism out the window. Since Reagan the national debt looks like a parabolic curve. So while I liked the guy and most of what he did, he really failed us there.

Here is what Eisenhower did:
Ended the Korean war.
Brought the defense budget under control and restored fiscal conservatism.
Stood up to the Communists, but without pulling the trigger.
Built the Interstate Highway system, the most beneficial infrastructure project since the railroad a hundred years before.

Here is the short list of disasters associated with each and every one of Eisenhower's successors:
Kennedy - Bay of Pigs, start of economic theory interventions in the economy, allowing public employees to unionize, disasterous negotiations with the Communists (which ended with the cuban missle crisis - where, thank God, he didn't pull the trigger), the Diem assasination and the start of Vietnam intervention.

Johnson - Vietnam, the welfare state

Nixon - Watergate, end of anything backing the dollar, price controls leading to even greater inflation, the snail pace withdraw from Vietnam.

Ford - pardoning Nixon, failing to deal with inflation

Carter - Hyperinflation, creating the Iran mess

Reagan - Abandonment of fiscal conservatism and the start of snowballing deficit. The whole Iran Contra mess.

Bush - failing to completely take out Sadam Hussein.

Clinton - failing to deal with national debt, deregulation of banks (end of Glass Steagal), the institutionalization of "pay for play" presidency. And of course the sexual predator thing, which led to him lying under oath. He was rightfully impeached, and should have been convicted.

Bush Jr - the Iraq mess by naively thinking he could turn the place into a democracy. Failure to deal with the true perpetrators of 9/11 - the Saudis. The subprime mortgage crisis and bank bailout that resulted.

Obama - did nothing to fix the problems that led to the financial crisis. Just doubled down on massive amounts of government debt. Handing control of Iraq over to Iran. Then giving Iran the financial means to continue to massively support terrorism. Obama care debacle that did nothing to fix the broken healthcare system, in fact it made it worse.

Trump - getting rid of a great cabinet/advisors that he started with. Continuing to accelerate government borrowing and debt. Inability to handle the Obamacare/healthcare mess or get anything substantial done legislatively while controlling both houses of congress.

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Navigator wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:11 pm
I don't think that the USA has had an outstanding president since Eisenhower. Each one after him was deeply flawed and made huge mistakes...
I would agree in general that we have had flawed presidents since Ike. A few nitpicks.

Bush 41 was handicapped by allying with the locals. While Saddam was a creep, his presence stabilized the region, so the locals insisted at the time Saddam remain blocking Iran. With 20 20 hindsight, I can see the local’s perspective. I would put Bush 41's handling of voodoo economics and the ‘it’s the economy stupid’ recession as his flaw, but agree that he was flawed.

Bush 43? The perpetuator of September 11th was Bin Ladin. He was against the royal power of the Saudis, and wanted to draw the Great Satan into a conflict he might win. I might question the details of your description, but still agree Bush 43 was flawed.

But overall a proper list.

I note that our great well remembered presidents tend to lead in a crisis. Biden??? Even I have a little trouble seeing it just now.

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Bob Butler wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:00 pm

The perpetuator of September 11th was Bin Ladin. He was against the royal power of the Saudis, and wanted to draw the Great Satan into a conflict he might win.
Modern terrorism comes from Wahabiism. This is the deviant form of Sunni Islam that is funded and exported by Saudi Arabia. Believe it or not, the Saudi royal family supports this, and no one was more surprised than them that the adherents also want to topple them.

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Navigator wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:17 pm
Bob Butler wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:00 pm

The perpetuator of September 11th was Bin Ladin. He was against the royal power of the Saudis, and wanted to draw the Great Satan into a conflict he might win.
Modern terrorism comes from Wahabiism. This is the deviant form of Sunni Islam that is funded and exported by Saudi Arabia. Believe it or not, the Saudi royal family supports this, and no one was more surprised than them that the adherents also want to topple them.
Good enough.

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Navigator wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:11 pm
I don't think that the USA has had an outstanding president since Eisenhower. Each one after him was deeply flawed and made huge mistakes.
Eisenhower was the second to last president to actually conduct himself like a president. Every president afterward (with the sole exception of Carter) has conducted himself more like a "celebrity king" than a president. And of course the media has gone along with it, and influenced much of the American people to do the same. I'm not sure I need to explain why that's a very bad trend.
Navigator wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:11 pm
Here is the short list of disasters associated with each and every one of Eisenhower's successors:
Kennedy - Bay of Pigs, start of economic theory interventions in the economy, allowing public employees to unionize, disasterous negotiations with the Communists (which ended with the cuban missle crisis - where, thank God, he didn't pull the trigger), the Diem assasination and the start of Vietnam intervention.

Johnson - Vietnam, the welfare state

Nixon - Watergate, end of anything backing the dollar, price controls leading to even greater inflation, the snail pace withdraw from Vietnam.

Ford - pardoning Nixon, failing to deal with inflation

Carter - Hyperinflation, creating the Iran mess

Reagan - Abandonment of fiscal conservatism and the start of snowballing deficit. The whole Iran Contra mess.

Bush - failing to completely take out Sadam Hussein.

Clinton - failing to deal with national debt, deregulation of banks (end of Glass Steagal), the institutionalization of "pay for play" presidency. And of course the sexual predator thing, which led to him lying under oath. He was rightfully impeached, and should have been convicted.

Bush Jr - the Iraq mess by naively thinking he could turn the place into a democracy. Failure to deal with the true perpetrators of 9/11 - the Saudis. The subprime mortgage crisis and bank bailout that resulted.

Obama - did nothing to fix the problems that led to the financial crisis. Just doubled down on massive amounts of government debt. Handing control of Iraq over to Iran. Then giving Iran the financial means to continue to massively support terrorism. Obama care debacle that did nothing to fix the broken healthcare system, in fact it made it worse.

Trump - getting rid of a great cabinet/advisors that he started with. Continuing to accelerate government borrowing and debt. Inability to handle the Obamacare/healthcare mess or get anything substantial done legislatively while controlling both houses of congress.
Nixon, Ford, and Carter are jointly responsible for starting the rise of China.

Carter, Reagan, and Bush I are jointly responsible for the rise of both al-Qaeda and the Taliban through the arming of the Afghan Mujhadeen.

As for the Gulf War, I personally believe that entire war was a mistake because Saddam's defeat ensured Saudi supremacy in the Gulf. Without supremacy in the Gulf, the Saudis may not have been able to have the resources necessary to prop up al-Qaeda, and thus there may not have been a 9/11.

There are a lot of people who believe that the NATO interventions in Yugoslavia (led by Clinton) and Libya (led by Obama) were big mistakes as well.

And my most controversial opinion of all: The Bush II, Obama, and Trump administrations were exceptionally authoritarian and corrupt. All three of them deserved to be impeached and removed for fighting the phony "War on Terror." A war that has consisted of targeting Saudi Arabia's enemies for crucifixion for Saudi Arabia's sins abroad, while also imposing unnecessary and increasingly draconian/unconstitutional restrictions on our freedoms at home.

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I really don't think Biden is up for the job. He ran for President multiple times and got nowhere. The Democratic party only began rigging things for him when they realized Sanders had a serious shot at winning the nomination. They remembered how nobody took Trump seriously as a threat until it was too late to stop him, and Bernie would be a disaster for the Democrats.

Trump's big problem has always been Trump. He's behaved this way his entire public career, and is well known for this. It's one thing to act like a jackass as a private citizen, but we expect better from our Presidents. I still feel he joined the Presidential race primarily to get attention and hadn't expected he would get anywhere, only to roll with it when he realized he had a genuine shot.

Even so, if not for Covid, I think he would have won. He appeared clueless at the beginning, but I've seen little to indicate anyone else would have done better. His travel ban was denounced as racist, the media dismissed it at the time, as did the Democrats. It wasn't until March that this changed.

Biden's got a long record of being soft on China, so I wouldn't expect him to do anything more than symbolic. China's been emboldened by the coronavirus, and the media's already praising them as efficient leaders who nipped the virus in the bud. (I don't believe a single word they say about Coronavirus numbers. Not like they care if a few million die)

Republicans have made clear they will never accept his Presidency and they've got the energy now. Every Republican I know is fed up with being called white supremacists, monsters, the media looking the other way when Antifa assaults them. (I've been leaning more liberal in the past year, but I'm still closer to the GOP) The very same feelings that allowed Trump to take the Presidency will lead to their own version of resistance.

However, I think Biden's greatest obstacle is going to be his own party. The Sanders/AOC wing want the Green Leap Forward, Medicare for All, open borders, etc. Biden's going to be under a lot of pressure not only for these policies, but what to do about Trump.

They don't just want Trump out of office. They want Trump arrested for treason, along with his family, his supporters, his associates, anyone who supported him in any way. Listening to any of Keith Olbermann's rants is proof enough of this. I don't think Biden would want to do this, if only because he'll realize the damage it causes, but they won't leave him alone until he does it. It would be an absolute disaster for the country. However, many Democrats are at a point where they don't care.

The stress of all this is likely to kill him, especially with continued investigations into Hunter Biden's dealings.

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Trevor wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:30 pm
Trump's big problem has always been Trump...
Good summary overall. I would add that the BLM protests would have erupted eventually, but when and how big they would be without COVID we don't really know. Agree Voodoo would likely have worked past the election without COVID creating an economic collapse. If Trump was a reaction to Obama, Biden was a reaction to Trump. I hope it stops there.

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Please, God, let my country break up.

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