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[Guest]

You have a very heavy burden these days, trying to defend what the Democrats are doing, especially with censorship. Amazingly, they're making Trump into a victim. Haha. You have my sympathy.

A right does not extend to inflicting harm or hampering the rights of others. This includes free speech. When Trump encouraged actual harm, it resulted in a bunch of ripples. I don't think these ripples have all hit home yet.

Please can you explain when Trump encouraged actual harm and what he said.

I assume you mean one of the following:

End of Trump's speech on 6 January

He ended his speech with the following. This quote is taken from the live recording of the speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrGJfQzUrnY

Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavours have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country. And I say this despite all that has happened - the best is yet to come.

So we are going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we are going to the Capitol and we are going to try and give our Republicans - the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help - we are going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So lets walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

I want to thank you all. God bless you and God bless America. Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Tweets from President Trump

John has already posted the tweets that seem to have tipped Twitter over the edge.

Maybe I'm stupid, but I can't see when he encouraged actual harm to anybody.

If politicians are going to be held accountable for what they say, perhaps the allegations of fraud should be subjected to independent scrutiny. After all, Joe Biden said:

We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.

The source for this quote is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0

[Bob Butler]

Please can you explain when Trump encouraged actual harm and what he said.

I can just say the recent article of impeachment concurs with my view.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics ... index.html

[Bob Butler]

Bob does well as the contrarian. He explains the reasoning of the side who will take out liberties through convoluted logic. They are well educated, logical people. But they're operating from fundamentally flawed premises. Fairies and unicorns. They truly believe they will make the world a better place by using force. And this they will commission the act of evil while believing it's for the good. They really are good people but group insanity has taken hold. History shows what the outcome will bring, sadly.

Supporting Rule of Law is hardly fairies and unicorns. Protests are guaranteed under the law, whether they be BLM or voter fraud oriented. Criminality is not. The laws should be enforced.

History shows the conservative faction is defeated in the crisis. I see that the total lack of evidence of voter fraud is key.

[Guest]

Please can you explain when Trump encouraged actual harm and what he said.

I can just say the recent article of impeachment concurs with my view.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics ... index.html

The draft article of impeachment against President Trump states that:

He also willfully made statements that encouraged - and foreseeably resulted in - imminent lawless action at the Capitol.

The document does not say which statements these are. Please can you confirm which statements you are basing your view on.

[Bob Butler]

The document does not say which statements these are. Please can you confirm which statements you are basing your view on.

I tried to find a copy of the speech the president made, but my quick search just found articles containing snippets. I'm afraid you will have to do your own research.

[Guest]

The document does not say which statements these are. Please can you confirm which statements you are basing your view on.

I tried to find a copy of the speech the president made, but my quick search just found articles containing snippets. I'm afraid you will have to do your own research.

I'm interested in your viewpoint.

Please see a link to the transcript:

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/do ... -january-6

[Guest]

** 10-Jan-2021 World View: Amazon to shut Parler down completely tonight

As millions of conservative Twitter users, infuriated by censorship of
Trump, Trump supporters, and any conservative views, are moving to
Parler, which is a free speech social media site, Parler has been
targeted by the Democrats.

Google and Apple have already removed Parler from the app stores, so
that users have to go around Google and Apple to load the Parler app
onto their mobile phones. However, Parler is still available for
those who already have the apps.

Now Amazon plans to shut down Parler completely. Parler made the mistake
of using Amazon's AWS cloud server system, and now Parler will pay
the price by having Amazon shut down the entire Parler service.

Here is the announcement by Parler's CEO John Matze:

• Announcement by Parler's John Matze that Amazon is shutting
  down Parler

With the Democrats taking complete control of the White House, the
House, the Senate, major media sites and social media sites, and using
their power to censor and punish 75 million Tea Partiers and Trump
supporters. This is a very dark time in America.

-- Parler faces SHUTDOWN: Amazon vows to switch off 'free-speech'
site's servers at midnight as Apple follows Google in banning it
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Apple.html
(Daily Mail, London, 10-Jan-2021)

It is not looking good for Parler.

Parler CEO John Matze said today that his social media company has been dropped by virtually all of its business alliances after Amazon, Apple and Google ended their agreements with the social media service.

“Every vendor from text message services to email providers to our lawyers all ditched us too on the same day,” Matze said today on Fox News.

Matze conceded that the bans could put the company out of business while raising free speech issues, calling it “an assault on everybody.”

Source: https://deadline.com/2021/01/parler-ceo ... 234670607/

[spottybrowncow]

Bob does well as the contrarian. He explains the reasoning of the side who will take out liberties through convoluted logic. They are well educated, logical people. But they're operating from fundamentally flawed premises. Fairies and unicorns. They truly believe they will make the world a better place by using force. And this they will commission the act of evil while believing it's for the good. They really are good people but group insanity has taken hold. History shows what the outcome will bring, sadly.

Supporting Rule of Law is hardly fairies and unicorns. Protests are guaranteed under the law, whether they be BLM or voter fraud oriented. Criminality is not. The laws should be enforced.

History shows the conservative faction is defeated in the crisis. I see that the total lack of evidence of voter fraud is key.

Rule of law was scarcely if ever enforced during BLM / Antifa carefully co-ordinated protests / rioting. Here in our peaceful little city of Charleston, SC the police were ordered to stand down by our democratic mayor Tecklenburg, while BLM rioters destroyed our main downtown tourist area. The police followed the protesters, but didn't confront any of them during their march of destruction. Honest law-abiding people are growing afraid of the government's double standard against civil people. No one is fooled, and fewer and fewer honest people are listening to you.

[JCP]

I do not see BLM as advocating violence.

Then you are blind.

[Bob Butler]

I do not see BLM as advocating violence.

Then you are blind.

Hardly. BLM is working towards their goal by using the Information Age method of changing cultures: non violence, protest and legislation. It is the tag along groups on the edge of the protests that are instigating violence: the Boogaloo Bois, looters, Proud Boys, secret police, bad cops, Wolverine Watchmen, etc... They are all into tribal thinking, dividing the world between us and them, forming a healthy xenophobia against them, then using violence to gain an advantage.

Over the summer there was a Trump push for supposed law and order while at the same time supporting the groups that instigated violence. Isn't it ironic that after the capitol riots it is the Democrats that are calling for law and order?

Again, I can't prevent internet warriors from in their heads scrambling around the motives and methods of the various groups. All I can do is call them out when they do it.

Consider yourself called out.