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Guest wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 6:33 am By 2030, the United States will be under Communist Government. That is...unless something changes and the people fight back (which they won't). Start planning your exit from the US now.

I am ... but where to go? By the way, it'll just be a type of surveillance state, not Communist in the way you suggest. It's never exactly how all the doomsayers think it'll be. 2022 will be a tipping point first, let's say how that rolls.

Huh wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 4:05 am

DaKardii wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 2:33 pm

John wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 2:10 pm So you think what? That China's foreign ministry was right in March of last year when they accused the US army of secretly planting the virus in Wuhan?

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if that accusation is correct. If our government is insane enough to do something like wage the fraudulent War on Terror, then it's insane enough to do something like planting COVID-19 in Wuhan.

It's all about credibility, John. At this time, our government has none.

John wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 2:10 pm What I was actually looking for was your opinion of Antony Blinken,
whose policies are very similar to Pompeo's. Do you consider Blinken
to be a notorious war-mongering neocon as well?

I do find Blinken to be a warmonger when it comes to Russia, yes. But even then he's still better than Pompeo so far.

Since last year you have been attacking "pro-CCP conservatives" as traitors, and now you come out with THIS.

At this point he has a list of topics on which he is reliable and sane, and others that he's just a reed blowing in the wind. The plandemic is/was obvious, and now he's suggesting the US did it, though he denied the lies about it for months. Of course, guys like Fauci and Biden are in league with the CCP, but that is too nuanced to talk about. Inflation is the other topic he just can't attempt to get his head around or think in different ways about. Then there's a lashing out at those of us who notice that CPI is inflating, but that it's just a particular measuring stick and means little when stocks, real estate, bitcoin, health care, etc are all inflating enormously.

But that's not inflation. Just like virus lies are real and you should go hide in your house forever since zombies are walking outside and dying every moment. Yes, there are zombies, but no one is dying except people older than the average age, and fat asses, like we see in normal life.

** 29-May-2021 World View: For what?

DaKardii wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 11:53 pm > As war draws nearer, I'm becoming more and more scared.

> I am 25 years old. I wish to live at least another 55, so I
> could live a full life. But what's happening now may well go
> against that wish. I used to think that my mental health
> (Asperger's Syndrome and Clinical depression) would result in me
> being exempted from the draft. But after I read Navigator's book,
> I realized that I'm probably not going to be exempted. And
> even if, by some miracle, I am exempt, what about my
> friends and family? Even if I'm lucky, they won't be.

> Either way, people I know and love are going to die. And for what?
> When you're my age, you're not supposed to be seeing your friends
> and family dying off at this rate. That typically only happens
> when you're older, right?

> And for what?

> Some if not most of you may be familiar with the Kubler-Ross Grief
> Cycle. Right now, I'm going back and forth between Anger,
> Bargaining, and Depression. And I'm not sure if I'll ever move on
> to acceptance. I mean, under these circumstances?

> So you know what? You guys may be right. Maybe I do need
> some sort of help. But from who? I mean, if I go to a
> professional, he/she probably will make my "progress" dependent on
> disavowing Generational Dynamics completely.

> Pschitt...

>

I'll agree with you about one thing -- "For what?" I've said this
before.

When you go through the nationalism and xenophobia, in the end, war
has only one purpose -- to get rid of enough people so that there's
enough food, water and other resources for the survivors. That's why
genocidal wars HAVE to occur at regular intervals.

So if you die, it will be so others may eat.

I'm sure you understand that you could die in a traffic accident. But
that doesn't keep you from leaving home every day.

So you have to live your life. If you really fear death, then try to
do something that will make your death worthwhile. And I don't mean
blowing yourself up in a terrorist attack.

I mean do something that will survive the war and you, so that you'll
have made the world a better place when the war ends. Find a cure for
cancer. Build an orphanage in Utah. Start a fund for elephants in
Africa. Something like that.

Or you could do something to help America win the war. This is, after
all, the greatest country in world history, and worth fighting for.

Most people go through life accomplishing nothing worthwhile, even a
long life. If you fear that you'll have only a short life, then make
sure that your short life is worth more than the long, wasted lives of
other people.

Very well said. Such advice serves us all now as we stare into the oncoming storm and wonder what will become of us.
Thank you for your service, John and Navigator. Your efforts are appreciated and helpful.

Huh wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 4:05 am Since last year you have been attacking "pro-CCP conservatives" as traitors, and now you come out with THIS.

I think you missed this part.

DaKardii wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 4:17 pm I haven't gone over to any other side. I'm on the side of the American people and its Constitution. Always have, and always will be. It's our government that isn't on that side.

Now, I will acknowledge that there are people out there who have the same disillusionment I have, but are going the unnecessary extra mile and actively cheering for the CCP out of spite. You know what I have to say about those people? Screw them.

Those people are different than me, in the most important aspect of them all: "what do you do about it?"

Guest wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 5:04 am

Australia is within range of China's conventional warhead-equipped DF-26 intermediate-range ballistic missile, observers pointed out.

A roundabout threat to nuke Australia.

WOW. I actually did not know about this one. But I'm not surprised, either. The CCP is just as insane as the neocon warmongers, maybe even more so. I mean, while I wouldn't be surprised if our government released the virus, I wouldn't be surprised if the CCP did it either.

Cool Breeze wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 10:16 am The plandemic is/was obvious, and now he's suggesting the US did it, though he denied the lies about it for months.

I never denied anything. I did explore different possibilities without expressing certainty about them, however. If you consider that denial, then be my guest.

However, I've always been more suspicious towards my own government than I have towards the CCP when it comes to this pandemic. I gave several hints about that over the last few months, and now I've become explicit about it.

thinker wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:44 am @Dakardi after reading your last post things make more sense, I was about to tell you to stop being such a butt hurt little girl and grow up, but now I see more clearly. I am from Cuba originally I have lived through communism and after immigrating to the good old USA I have experienced freedom as well. I have also traveled to other countries like South Africa on safari and others as different as Bolivia and New Zealand. I have dealt with the top 1% of the world as well as the bottom 1% of the world. Men have pulled guns on me and come at me with knives. I have been caught in storms at sea as well as in a blizzard in the rocky mountains. I have experienced times of amazing joy, pain, and fear. You stated that you wanted to live a full life, I am about to turn 48 and when I look back at my life so far I am amazed at how full and even crazy it has been. I did not set out to live such a life it just happened as I kept pushing along through life. Stop worrying about the coming war and things you cannot control. Focus on what you can control and live your life as best as you can on your terms and hopefully some day you will be about to turn 48 and look back at your life and smile as I do at what an amazing journey it has been.

John wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 11:42 am I'll agree with you about one thing -- "For what?" I've said this
before.

When you go through the nationalism and xenophobia, in the end, war
has only one purpose -- to get rid of enough people so that there's
enough food, water and other resources for the survivors. That's why
genocidal wars HAVE to occur at regular intervals.

So if you die, it will be so others may eat.

I'm sure you understand that you could die in a traffic accident. But
that doesn't keep you from leaving home every day.

So you have to live your life. If you really fear death, then try to
do something that will make your death worthwhile. And I don't mean
blowing yourself up in a terrorist attack.

I mean do something that will survive the war and you, so that you'll
have made the world a better place when the war ends. Find a cure for
cancer. Build an orphanage in Utah. Start a fund for elephants in
Africa. Something like that.

Or you could do something to help America win the war. This is, after
all, the greatest country in world history, and worth fighting for.

Most people go through life accomplishing nothing worthwhile, even a
long life. If you fear that you'll have only a short life, then make
sure that your short life is worth more than the long, wasted lives of
other people.

Guest wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 12:48 pm Very well said. Such advice serves us all now as we stare into the oncoming storm and wonder what will become of us.
Thank you for your service, John and Navigator. Your efforts are appreciated and helpful.

John, Navigator, and thinker, thank you for your advice. I agree with Guest when he/she says, "your efforts are appreciated and helpful."

I think I might need to take a hiatus from posting on here, for mental health reasons. And instead of complaining about how much my life sucks, start actually living it to the fullest. Paying too much attention to what's going on in the world has been bringing out the worst in me, and there are other things I can do with my free time.

Anyway, I gotta go. I'm running late for a family lunch responding to all these posts. See you around.

DaKardii wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 11:53 pm

DaKardii wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 6:15 pm

Xeraphim1 wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 3:26 pm if you really believe this then I suggest you're in need of some serious help or medication.

Knowing what’s coming, it’s definitely easy for me to lose a bit of my mind. I just can’t believe what everything’s come to. I need an escape of some kind. But what, and where?

As war draws nearer, I'm becoming more and more scared.

I am 25 years old. I wish to live at least another 55, so I could live a full life. But what's happening now may well go against that wish. I used to think that my mental health (Asperger's Syndrome and Clinical depression) would result in me being exempted from the draft. But after I read Navigator's book, I realized that I'm probably not going to be exempted. And even if, by some miracle, I am exempt, what about my friends and family? Even if I'm lucky, they won't be.

Either way, people I know and love are going to die. And for what? When you're my age, you're not supposed to be seeing your friends and family dying off at this rate. That typically only happens when you're older, right?

And for what?

Some if not most of you may be familiar with the Kubler-Ross Grief Cycle. Right now, I'm going back and forth between Anger, Bargaining, and Depression. And I'm not sure if I'll ever move on to acceptance. I mean, under these circumstances?

So you know what? You guys may be right. Maybe I do need some sort of help. But from who? I mean, if I go to a professional, he/she probably will make my "progress" dependent on disavowing Generational Dynamics completely.

Pschitt...

Why should our generation be spared what is natural? Our grandparents had to deal with it what makes our case special and unique? Our generation only has (had) what we have because of the sacrifices made by the GI Generation. I don't know about you but as an older Millennial I can say America was amazing and I am glad to have experienced a couple of decades of the highest standard of living in the history of man. I don't want to die young either but talking to young Gen Z kids that have no personal memories of pre-9/11 America I can say they will never have what I had. Time is cyclical and seasonal and I only wish I had understood that earlier in life instead of always believing the future will be better.

I was fortunate to speak with an old American WWII veteran who flew a P-51 Mustang over Germany. Since he was willing to talk about his experiences in war I specifically asked him what his mental state was like watching planes all around him get blown out of the air and not knowing when his time was coming. He simply said you are fighting for your people and country and it doesn't really matter if its your time its your time.

I don't think WWIII is going to be primarily an overseas conflict in Asia similar to WWII. I think its going to be all around us more like the Battle of Britain.

The cycle is directed by nature or God. No matter what happens it will be nothing new. All the horrors of war and human suffering have happened and will happen again. Our Fourth Turning will pass eventually and also be forgotten by later generations.

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
10 Is there anything of which one can say,
“Look! This is something new”?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time.
11 No one remembers the former generations,
and even those yet to come
will not be remembered
by those who follow them.

Learning and understanding the cycle is "forbidden knowledge" after seeing how intelligent and educated people are unable to comprehend the cycle no matter how you explain it to them. Understanding the cycle itself does no more then knowing when the seasons of nature change.

Then I turned my thoughts to consider wisdom,
and also madness and folly.
What more can the king’s successor do
than what has already been done?
13 I saw that wisdom is better than folly,
just as light is better than darkness.
14 The wise have eyes in their heads,
while the fool walks in the darkness;
but I came to realize
that the same fate overtakes them both.

15 Then I said to myself,

“The fate of the fool will overtake me also.
What then do I gain by being wise?”
I said to myself,
“This too is meaningless.”
16 For the wise, like the fool, will not be long remembered;
the days have already come when both have been forgotten.
Like the fool, the wise too must die!

** 29-May-2021 World View: Alfred Drake - The Sands of Time


Princes come, Princes go,
An hour of pomp and show they know;
Princes come and over the sands,
And over the sands of time they go.

Wise men come,
Ever promising the riddle of life to know,
Wise men come, Ah, But over the sands.
The silent sands of time they go

Lovers come, Lovers go.
And all that there is to know
Lovers know;
Only lovers know.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxYUEmWetYw

** 29-May-2021 World View: Take care of yourself

DaKardii wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:28 pm > John, Navigator, and thinker, thank you for your advice. I agree
> with Guest when he/she says, "your efforts are appreciated and
> helpful."

> I think I might need to take a hiatus from posting on here, for
> mental health reasons. And instead of complaining about how much
> my life sucks, start actually living it to the fullest. Paying too
> much attention to what's going on in the world has been bringing
> out the worst in me, and there are other things I can do with my
> free time.

> Anyway, I gotta go. I'm running late for a family lunch responding
> to all these posts. See you around.

OK, but don't assume that you're going to die young. Remember the
saying:

If I had known I was going to live this long, I would have taken
better care of myself.

DaKardii wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:28 pm
John, Navigator, and thinker, thank you for your advice. I agree with Guest when he/she says, "your efforts are appreciated and helpful."

I think I might need to take a hiatus from posting on here, for mental health reasons. And instead of complaining about how much my life sucks, start actually living it to the fullest. Paying too much attention to what's going on in the world has been bringing out the worst in me, and there are other things I can do with my free time.

Anyway, I gotta go. I'm running late for a family lunch responding to all these posts. See you around.

DaKardii,

It can be very depressing if you view this mortal life as everything. It is not. I believe this life is a short test. Some people have very very short tests. For others, it lasts longer, but in the end, it is a rather short test, and, as the saying goes, "life is short and then you die".

You can get really depressed if you think that what you gain or experience in this life is the only thing that matters. Most are born into pretty bad circumstances. Some lived in ages past where life was, compared to ours, incredibly hard. Others are born into poverty or situations of abuse or born/acquire severe handicaps. Others are born into wealth or lie/cheat/murder their way to power and money. And most of them get away with it in this life.

But this life is NOT the entirety of existence. We are each placed in a time/situation that is designed for us personally. We are each taking our own individualized test. Are we good or bad? What are our choices and actions? Do we chose to have faith or not? In the end, these are the things that we will be judged on.

So while life is indeed short and we may not have the mortal experiences that we might chose to have, you have to remember that possessions and nice experiences are not the point of our lives. Passing the test is. EVERYTHING in this life is temporary. The results of passing or failing the test of life are PERMANENT. For Eternity. The seventy average years of current mortal life is not even an eyeblink in relation to eternity.

But for us atheists, this mortal life is everything.