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Higgenbotham wrote:a, I've come to think recently that the problem is more fundamental. I'll try to explain it as best I can but I've not seen this explanation and haven't tried to put it into words.

I think in truth the average IQ is decreasing. The first obvious question is how I can say this when in fact IQs are increasing. I would attribute it to something that may be termed "inherent IQ" which would be IQ in the sense of having equivalent support structures in place. In other words, if we took the average human in the US and transported them back to the 1850 or 1930 environment, they would not test out as well in that same environment as the average human in the US who existed in 1850 or 1930. Or, generally speaking, the robustness of the average human in the US is declining.

Higgenbotham --The type of schooling may have a big impact on the general IQ, the time period you selected was impacted by McGuffy Readers which taught children to read, wright and THINK.

McGuffy's Readers -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGuffey_Readers McGuffey Readers were a series of graded primers that were widely used as textbooks in American schools from the mid-19th century to the
mid-20th century, and are still used today in some private schools and in homeschooling. http://www.howtotutor.com/guffy.htm

Education changed over the years and some of the change may be because of things like ---'I don't want a nation of thinkers; I want a nation of workers.' John D Rockerfeller.
http://www.jobs.co.za/job-seekers/caree ... re-leaders

Physical and mental robustness is built up through generations and decreases through generations. It's easier to look at that on a physical basis than on a mental basis but it probably works similarly. The first I read about this was a study on cats by Pottenger. When cats were fed diets deficient in required amino acids the effects were transgenerational.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_M._Pottenger,_Jr.
By the end of the third generation the cats had developed degenerative diseases very early in life and some were born blind and weak and had a much shorter life span. Many of the third generation cats couldn't even produce offspring. There was an abundance of parasites and vermin while skin diseases and allergies increased from an incidence of five percent in normal cats to over 90 percent in the third generation of deficient cats. Kittens of the third generation did not survive six months. Bones became soft and pliable and the cats suffered from adverse personality changes. Males became docile while females became more aggressive.
The cats suffered from most of the degenerative diseases encountered in human medicine and died out totally by the fourth generation.
This concept was still controversial 20 years ago but some scientists were starting to express concerns about transgenerational effects of some hormones or compounds that imitated hormones that were present in the womb. This was controversial when published.
http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/
http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/Basics/controv.htm
Now we see that this type of study is becoming mainstream.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... -to-dioxin
In the meantime, we see a fair amount of evidence that something similar may be going on in humans, but it's not clear exactly why this is happening or what will happen.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/newslette ... r-children
DES daughters (women exposed prenatally to DES) have a 40-fold increased risk of CCA of the vagina and cervix, but even in this group, the disease is extremely rare — one case per 1,000 to 2,000 exposed daughters. DES daughters are 2.5 times more likely to develop breast cancer after age 40 than their unexposed counterparts.
DES grandchildren (sons and daughters of women and men exposed prenatally to DES) do not appear to be at increased risk for DES-related health problems, but research is just beginning.
Official line from Harvard, but...the French say "non".
http://desinfo411.wordpress.com/2011/04 ... -coverage/
http://www.healthcare-today.co.uk/conte ... ntId=18309
In mothers who had not taken the drug, there were no cases of hypospadias among sons.
In mothers who had taken the drug, the prevalence was about 3 of every 100 sons.
As for grandsons, 8 of every 100 had hypospadias, if their mothers were exposed to DES in the womb.
http://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/statistics/ ... e/fig2.htm
From 1980 to 2011, the crude incidence of diagnosed diabetes increased 133% from 3.3 to 7.7 per 1,000 population. Similarly, the age–adjusted incidence increased 117% from 3.5 to 7.6 per 1,000 population, suggesting that the majority of the change was not due to the aging of the population.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... s/1642583/
October 20. 2012 - American boys are showing signs of starting puberty six months to two years earlier than they did 30 to 40 years ago, finds new research out today.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/158066/speci ... -lgbt.aspx
Adults aged 18 to 29 (6.4%) are more than three times as likely as seniors aged 65 and older (1.9%) to identify as LGBT. Among those aged 30 to 64, LGBT identity declines with age -- at 3.2% for 30- to 49-year-olds and 2.6% for 50- to 64-year-olds.
A sampling of some recent reading that says something is going on that perhaps is transgenerational.

In the meantime, as you say, we have a workforce to train and replace, one that may be less capable, has potentially degrading environmental exposures from new toxins like GMOs as well as inherited genetic defects from various toxins introduced after 1945, is fewer in number, and one that the Baby Boomers are not wont to train for many reasons, the most obvious being the Baby Boomers haven't saved and need to keep their jobs.

Trevor wrote: It's only the semi-wealthy who are really going to be hit hard. Regulations are taxes are going to hold them back, reducing competition for the people at the very top. I know what it's supposed to do in theory, but practice is another matter entirely.

The tax rates under Clinton vs Bush vs Obama are not the issue.

The last time the semi-wealthy got crushed it was during the bank holiday in the 1930s, and during the sporadic bank runs before then, also in the 1930s, the semi wealthy, had money in the bank and in stocks. Their stock certificates were used by "financial institutions" as collateral for the institutions margin trades, and their cash safely deposited in fractional reserve banks disappeared over night.

It did not leave via taxes or via regulation, but the federal government was involved in the wealth evaporating over night.

It was neither taxes nor regulation that did them in.

It happened 80 some years ago, why exactly can it not happen again ?

Federal Government spending, the ongoing bank crisis, the "Fiscal Cliff", the massive U.S. Private and Public Debt bubble, are all just symptoms.

John has an explanation as to the cause, and his explanation may be right or wrong, but there is a cause, and there is an explanation.

Peonville: France voted against the Lisbon treaty but the elite ignored it. France did not vote for unrestricted import of third world people who live in ghettos and burn cars on new years eve while sucking up tax money from the shrinking middle class. They did not vote for collusion between the political elite and the banks. In fact, regardless of who they vote for, they all become a part of the political elite hell bent on destroying France. Sound familiar? But still, it could be said that a nation that elects a mentally deficient corrupt marxist gnome like Hollande deserves ruin. Much like America deserves for electing Obama - who happens to be exactly like Hollande.

Third world countries are needed to shore up their political base since the captivity days of Ester. Got to like the current transitory rhetoric of we can dilute movements to avoid
balkanized conflicts they learned from the Clinton base and the apparent MAI policy of 1992. The Beruit issue earlier was dealt with at another level and consequences.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

People are going to find a rude awaking that the transitional team's incoming are not able to enhance what never was moving forward in the first place. This is no accident so in there view they can maintain stability on the terms they wish. The rest is cat herding and the herd health stats is enough to keep the terminally naive busy for decades. The left knows this also and is complaisant and arrogated to keep the money pump moving for themselves for plunder since they cannot produce value added services en mass. The right is posturing to keep the peace on the terms they wish to keep only since the Empire needs the full attention since the current bar fight in Syria keeps the operatives core focused on unaudited fiat. Never in our life time will they account to us for debt in the trillions since the moderates are portrayed exactly as we noted with Thucydides political realism. Until the public wakes up which for all intent and purposes will not happen since they will not assert facts as we note the polarized Hegelian dialog is of no concern to a public who have given there liberty away. This started before most of them left the birth canal and are the product of a design to the very demise of the posterity never will be allowed in mindless statist worship. The coming decade will entail the point they took what was allowed since the taxpayer deserved what they got.

Look to your retirement accounts as the next low hanging fruit to be plucked.

No FDIC insurance, stock certificates and bonds remaining in the physical possession of the "regulated financial institution" trustees.

And most importantly, that is where the money is, that is the M3 of the money supply, the big bucks.

Just the kind of stuff the crooks that ran the banks back in the 1930s could not pass up. After all, what better use for those retirement funds and the stock certificates and bonds in those trust funds, than for the bankers to put them up as collateral for their personal bets in the financial markets. Fear of getting caught ? Never, they have all been to the John Corzine, too big to fail, bankers training session.

By federal law banks and other "regulated financial institutions" are so trustworthy they do not even have to put up fiduciary bonds to act as trustees.

MF Global was a regulated financial institution, the people with "cash" accounts in MF Global ended up short a Billion dollars.

Obama administration regulators and prosecutors investigated diligently, then declined to prosecute.

It seems the MF Global employees were so busy trying to save their own jobs and their own retirements, they just could not be bothered with observing who was looting their clients cash funds.

Nobody can remember just who stole that Billion dollars, so no evidence to prosecute, case closed.

http://www.mining.com/coal-miner-bringi ... ict-27126/
Seventeen workers are already at the mine in Northern B.C. and another 60 are expected to arrive in mid-December. The miner has been granted two-year visas for 201 temporary workers.
Soon
CHICAGO—Coal miner Chad Meyers, 30, was killed on the job in the early morning of Nov. 17 at Peabody Energy’s Willow Lake Mine in Equality, Ill. Meyers, the 34th miner killed in the U.S. this year, was crushed between a continuous mining machine he was operating and the coal rib.
Workers at the mine, members of United Mine Workers Local 5929, have been fighting for a contract since they voted for the union in May 2011. The question of safety, and in particular the right to a union safety committee, is among the top concerns driving their union struggle.
Peabody kept fighting to keep the union out of the mine through several court challenges, firings and threats. It took 15 months for the National Labor Relations Board to certify the union’s victory in the 2011 vote. The company announced Nov. 27 it would permanently close the mine.
Ongoing
China is now the biggest international consumer of illegal timber, according to the report from the Environmental Investigation Agency (EIA), which adds that the trade is causing the destruction of vast tracts of forest in developing countries. Globally, the trade in illegal timber is worth between $30 billion and $100 billion a year, according to an Interpol and United Nations Environment Program report. Deforestation is a major contributor to climate change, as the trees that soak up carbon dioxide disappear. "Illegal logging now accounts for between 15 and 30 per cent of the global legal trade and significantly hampers the Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and forest Degradation (REDD) initiative," the Interpol-UNEP report said.

In the next few months, we should be seeing a third example of this "hope and change" phenomenon.

Social scientists have reacted in a number of ways to the existence of global crises and potential crises. Their responses, of course, have been consistent with their ideological assumptions, resulting in the unfortunate avoidance of several possibly productive avenues of research and speculation.
As an example, one major emphasis within psychology and other fields has been a growing literature that is in large part an outgrowth of Hardin's 1968 article on "the tragedy of the commons." Hardin, a biologist, described a situation in which "rational" individuals looking out only for their own self-interest will inevitably destroy what they use in common, so long as they each get the full benefit of their individual use of the commons but only have to pay a small percentage of the costs (note the assumptions behind Hardin's definition of rationality, which comes directly from similar treatments in the economics literature--e.g., Olson, 1965). Hardin advocated the public acceptance of stringent controls on the right to have children and to consume resources, in the belief that people will not voluntarily cooperate for the good of all in a large global commons. He later went on to urge the adoption of a "lifeboat ethics" as a means of ensuring human survival in an overpopulated world (Hardin, 1972; Hardin & Baden, 1977).

http://www.rev.net/~aloe/lifeboat/ <---- sorry but i like Russians


Yes the mask's will come off indeed and is as we speak.
The later Cold War and the “New World Order” (1970-2000)
Israel and The Arabs I (1948-73) confirmed again cycle nickel grass updated
Israel and The Arabs II (1973-2001) UN - probable melt down cycle fall ~nov2015
An Overview of The Chinese Revolution (1949-)
A More Detailed Look At The Chinese Revolution
The Cultural Revolution (1966-70)
China since the Cultural Revolution
Detente, Yuppies, and The 1970s
The 1980s and The End of The Cold War
Globalization In The 1990s
As H reminded us of the average adverse Geopolitical Cycle is 16.4 years. The current one started in 2000 so prices will at best go sideways until 2016. The Fed is determined to keep the bubble inflated so prices may stay above the regression line and the Dow could be around 10,000 in 2016 but this might only be worth 3,000 in 2009 dollars.

As we are seen they thought that this was the end of socialism, an illusory chapter they had now decided to close. When the revolution raised its head only four years later, it was like the re-appearance of a dreaded ghost from the past. Hatred of the revolution was also fear of it. Projecting their own emotions onto their enemies. January 15th 1919

The final note today is why are your feet hanging over the life raft? The constituition was all you had and you will pay for that in so many ways...

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... ering-pace

Plantation herded human farmers to community organizers will save the day just like before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt_Igoe
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0 ... 98,00.html
Locally we have been able to cluster the lowest denominators in proximity sections eights. We have worked with the left
to assure proper dialog to reality of the actual equation of depravitys since integration are impossible to normalize.
When the CRA type retards convey that seems unfair they are reminded which child in the neighborhood should get
the first shovel of dirt in the face from these people so please point them out for us in there wisdom.

Meanwhile the political left, Littleton says, “uses a free-market model in their political organizing,” empowering local activists to run networks in their own local communities. He laughs ruefully. “It’s the ultimate irony.”

I'd have to disagree on the utility of the McGuffey Reader in teaching one to reason, it was far more oriented towards teaching one to become an orator.

I don't think the current indifference to public policy that so many exhibit has anything to do with reduced intelligence, I think its just recognition of the fact that the parties became nearly identical on all policy that matters and stayed that way through two decades. And there still is no difference worth mentioning, despite all the high blown claims of "Obama as socialist dictator" or "Bush as Hitlers son".

If a person does NOT CARE about the social issue nonsense, such as gay marriage, abortion, handwringing over churches and "wars on Christmas" and such trifles, then why should they bother to vote or be interested in what Washington does? They are going to get the same deal from either side, and that's just the truth, and most of them know it. Either Democrats or Republicans will support transfer payments to the wealthy, both sides will tell you how it's all about Social Security because they want to get their hands on that money, and both will talk a great game about security, but kowtow to the oil Arabs all the same and security at home be damned. I don't think much of the radicals in Congress, but at least they are trying to shake the parties out of this paralysis status where both sides make the same moves.

If both parties would mind there own issues at the front door what issue would there be since now they complain at riders
on services we should not pay for anyway. Are they to lazy to look up affront? No, that has already been answered
before we existed. Average people can connect dots forward and backwards. Anyway, got a book to finish and ordered one
to fill the library. Also winding down on some projects and notes to sort. I enjoy the discourse even if it appears chaotic
we are a full spectrum and full speed ahead to see over the next hill from a playbook already written.
Average Americans know both are ripe for the obvious footnote in history.