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One of the first things Biden was involved in in his long Congressional Career, was abandoning South Vietnam to the Communists.

So its no surprise he has now abandoned Afghanistan to people who are arguably much worse.

There is such a thing as a stage withdraw. Too bad Biden didn't go this route. I hope that we will at least get those people out who collaborated with us (like the interpreters). The Taliban will torture them to death otherwise.

"Nation Building" in these non-western countries does not work, and never stood a chance. Our best bet (after taking out the original terrorist accommodating rulers) was to build a large base, keep ANYONE more than 20 miles away from it (meaning a "death zone" where anyone in it is liable to be shot/bombed), and use it to attack the indigenous government and its military should they involve themselves in terrorism or other acts of war.

** 14-Aug-2021 World View: Population Density delusion

Apparently I've been deluded on the subject of population density.

For years, China has had a one-child policy to prevent overpopulation.

And I've always been under the delusion that this was because China
was the most densely populated country in the world, at least among
the big countries.

And I was aware that China's population is four times as high as
America's population, in a smaller area.

But it turns out that India has a much higher population density than
China: 424/sqkm for India vs 149/sqkm for China.

In fact, there are 82 countries, large and small, with higher
population densities than China, as can be seen from the following web
page:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-density

Pakistan, for example, has 255/sqkm. The UK is at 281/sqkm. Vietnam
is at 296/sqkm. Japan is at 334/sqkm. South Korea is at 512/sqkm.

So OK, I've been deluded all these years. But now I wonder, what the
hell is the big deal with China? None of these other countries had a
"one child" policy. Why did China?

@john the problem with China is that communism does not work on a large scale, so the communist will always blame something else and "overpopulation" is one of the main strawmen to blame. If you notice the overwhelming majority of the overpopulation alarmist are leftist. Even without wars and disease the worlds human population will decline. I believe that it is just part of a natural cycle. On top of that new advances and discoveries in science and technology increases the availability of food and energy and usually does it with less environmental impacts. As one example there is a guy in Australia who has developed a system of farm raising abalone in the wild that not only does no harm to the environment but it actually improves the local environment and helps endangered and at risk marine species. I have made piece with the fact that a lot of people are going to die in the upcoming world war, but one thing that still frustrates me is that we have so much new knowledge in how natural systems work and so much new technology that can produce abundance and I fear that a lot of this will be lost in the war. I am usually an optimist so I am going to believe that most if not all of this knowledge will survive the war. I would like to know what things other forum members are worried about losing in the war.

** 15-Aug-2021 World View: Watching the fall of Kabul

I've been watching the fall of Kabul on al-Jazaeera and the BBC.

The BBC is calling it the worst foreign policy disaster in decades --
since the Egyptians defeated the British in 1956 over control of the
Suez Canal. Many people say they're in shock over this happening.
Britain has a long history in Afghanistan, and people interviewed by
the BBC recently have been talking about abandonment and betrayal.
I'm listening to one British official saying, "I hang my head in
shame" over what is happening."

The Taliban are saying that they're holding back from a full invasion
of Kabul to give the Afghan government a chance to resign, and give
the new Taliban government legitimacy. This also gives several
thousand people in the American embassy a chance to flee to the
airport, so that there won't be people hanging off of helicopters as
the were in the Fall of Saigon in 1975.

An interesting aspect of the collapse of the Afghan forces is that in
one city after another the existing government has simply resigned,
and turned the government over to the Taliban in a friendly manner.
There are two major side effects in each case. First, guns, tanks and
drones and other weapons that the Americans left behind for the Afghan
forces to defend themselves are now in the hands of the
Taliban. Second, hundreds of Taliban fighters who had been in jail are
now out and free to fight again.

As I've been saying for years, southern Afghanistan is governed by
ethnic Pashtuns. The Afghan officials are Pashtuns. The Taliban are
radicalized Pashtuns. So the Taliban have been entering each city and
there has often been a brotherly transfer of power.

The major exception so far has been the city of Mazar-i-Sharif in
northern Afghanistan, near the border with Uzbekistan. Many people
have been fleeing across the border to escape the advance of the
Taliban. Mazar-i-Sharif was the site of some of the bloodiest
massacres in 1997 between the Northern Alliance (Tajiks, Hazaras and
Uzbeks) and the Taliban (Pashtuns), following the Afghan civil war.
When the Taliban are in power again, it's absolutely certain that
there will be a new massacre by the Taliban in Mazar-i-Sharif.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-bu ... d176987b19

No matter how you look at it, the Pashtuns are a minority ethnic group
in Afghanistan, and they will not have the allegiance of anything like
the entire country. Many groups will now be seeking bloody revenge
for the atrocities committed during the 1990s.

Note:

Afghanistan's 2004 constitution recognizes 14 ethnic groups: Pashtun,
Tajik, Hazara, Uzbek, Baloch, Turkmen, Nuristani, Pamiri, Arab, Gujar,
Brahui, Qizilbash, Aimaq, and Pashai
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/ ... nd-society

According to 2010 data from the US Department of State, the largest
ethnic group in Afghanistan is the Pashtun (including Kuchis),
comprising 42% of Afghans. The Tajiks are the second largest ethnic
group, at 27% of the population, followed by the Hazaras (9%), Uzbeks
(9%), Aimaq (4%), Turkmen (3%), Baluch (2%) and other groups that make
up 4%.
https://reliefweb.int/report/afghanista ... estigation

We've officially lost the war in Afghanistan.

** 15-Aug-2021 World View: Ashraf Ghani flees for his life

Afghanistan's president Ashraf Ghani has fled Kabul, for some other
country, possibly Tajikistan. The Taliban have now entered Kabul, and
are demanding total control of the government with no transitional
stage. Ghani's Minister of Education was interviewed on the BBC and
said that she can hardly believe he fled, that she had trusted Ghani,
and now will never trust any politician again.

** 15-Aug-2021 World View: Young Zealots

Analysts have been making one idiotic statement after another. "Women
and girls will be able to go to school or work, as long as they wear
the hijab." "The Taliban will be moderate, because they need
international support." Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said that
the Afghan operation has been a total success. This is just like DHS
secretary saying that the border is closed. Starting from Biden on
down, this is the worst American government in my lifetime, with one
disastrous policy after another.

There's only one analyst today that said something sensible: "The
Taliban leaders are being moderate, but after they're in power,
because they don't want to repeat the 1990s atrocities. But once
they're in power, it's the young zealots who will be committing
atrocities."

That's the Generational Dynamics position, and that's exactly right.

Other analyst observations of interest:

"The US army has been looking at a map of provinces, while the
Taliban have been looking at a map of tribes."

"The people of Afghanistan on social media are furious that Ashraf
Ghani fled the country, and he will pay the consequences."

Cool Breeze wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:02 am

Guest wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:36 pm

Cool Breeze wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 6:11 pm It is interesting that Higgy said



In 2011. It is now 10 years later and the population depletion isn't anywhere close. It may pick up if the WEF continues its grand conspiracies with vaccines, plandemics, and the coming cyber polygon, but it's curious that we have yet another example of a decade prediction going nowhere.

It depends on how you want to count it. If you want to consider that the US was founded by white Europeans, then Higginbotham is right.

The white population in America shrunk for the first time in US history, according to US Census data around race and ethnicity released on Thursday.

The dip marks the first time since the Census was implemented in 1790 that the number of people who identify as white has decreased.

In 2010, the white population was 223.6 million and in 2020 it was 204.3 million, a decrease of 8.6%, according to the data. However, the white population is still the largest among groups. Part of this drop is due to an aging population and fewer births.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-cens ... ime-2021-8

Sure, it's a nice perk of the plan as well but it's not like the powers that be want any of the "useless eaters", regardless of race. Africa will lose more people and even a higher percentage than anywhere else in the next 25 years.

If there is really a plan by the powers that be as you say, and you are white and living in the US, then it looks like the powers that be have a plan to target you, not the blacks in Africa. Good luck.

What were the last 20 years for?

thinker wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:06 am @john the problem with China is that communism does not work on a large scale, so the communist will always blame something else and "overpopulation" is one of the main strawmen to blame. If you notice the overwhelming majority of the overpopulation alarmist are leftist. Even without wars and disease the worlds human population will decline. I believe that it is just part of a natural cycle. On top of that new advances and discoveries in science and technology increases the availability of food and energy and usually does it with less environmental impacts. As one example there is a guy in Australia who has developed a system of farm raising abalone in the wild that not only does no harm to the environment but it actually improves the local environment and helps endangered and at risk marine species. I have made piece with the fact that a lot of people are going to die in the upcoming world war, but one thing that still frustrates me is that we have so much new knowledge in how natural systems work and so much new technology that can produce abundance and I fear that a lot of this will be lost in the war. I am usually an optimist so I am going to believe that most if not all of this knowledge will survive the war. I would like to know what things other forum members are worried about losing in the war.

thinker is correct again, well done my friend. It's even funnier when the average leftist or leaning person talks about how population is too high, as if he is going to volunteer to jump off a cliff "for the good of the world." One of the original demonic plans (yes by spiritual forces) is to sabotage humanity so they can't multiply and fill the earth. This is another tell that leftism has roots in evil things of this world.

I don't think the war will be as soon as others do here, and getting even more convinced it might not happen this decade like I previously thought. Technology is the least important loss in an upcoming war, in general at this point all it leads to is more human drone behavior, en masse.