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jdcpapa wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:21 amIn your mind perhaps, as you are referring to the pre-civil rights movement when that activity arguably did occur.

jdcpapa wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:21 amThis Nation is in for a serious wake-up call.

Bob Butler wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:18 pm

Cool Breeze wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:36 pmIt's better not to interact with useful idiots. Many of us, for years now, have learned that (again) the hard way.

One of the better pieces of advice you have given. It is too bad you do not follow it.

yyyy wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:31 pm

Bob Butler wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:57 pm

FullMoon wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:26 pmSomehow he just can't imagine the similarities that have been pointed out and I'll have to agree with. All these petty differences manufactured by the times will be forgotten overnight when we have peak crisis. Peak crisis is defined by the feeling that one's life is in peril and survival is uncertain.

In the Agricultural and Industrial Ages, the peak crisis event was generally a war. In the Information Age, war is not cost effective. At any rate, the MAGA crisis issues are involving violence less since the 2022 midterms. It is not clear what path Xi will take, but the idea of a US or MAGA conflict going towards violence is not likely at the time.

In listing the MAGA agenda above, it can be summarized that they are attempting to antagonize as many voters as possible. If Hillary’s ‘deplorable’ statement was not a good way to win votes, the current MAGA efforts are of a similar nature. I somehow doubt this will be “forgotten overnight”.

Everything you say is proven wrong. It's nitwits like you that destroyed England.

Bob Butler wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:37 am

jdcpapa wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:21 amIn your mind perhaps, as you are referring to the pre-civil rights movement when that activity arguably did occur.

I would question the word 'arguably'. I would suggest this activity happened over the history of the United States, and the preceding colonies. The killing of George Floyd and the recent spree killings would be included.

jdcpapa wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:21 amThis Nation is in for a serious wake-up call.

Agreed. Oppressing the voters you are trying to win ought to be part of it.

Cool Breeze wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:33 am Correct. I gave you too many chances to prove me wrong. Indeed it was silly on my part.

Bob Butler wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 12:30 pm

Cool Breeze wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:33 am Correct. I gave you too many chances to prove me wrong. Indeed it was silly on my part.

Jdcpapa, even if we disagree a lot, is at least posting about an issue. He is not launching personal attacks.

jdcpapa wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:59 am Robert Kennedy, Jr. and another democrat are seeking to run against Joe. Collectively, they hold approximately 30% of the democrat vote. Kennedy is accusing the DNC (radical left around 30% of the democrat party) of "rigging the primaries" to block his participation as a candidate.

jdcpapa wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:59 am Robert Kennedy, Jr. and another democrat are seeking to run against Joe. Collectively, they hold approximately 30% of the democrat vote. Kennedy is accusing the DNC (radical left around 30% of the democrat party) of "rigging the primaries" to block his participation as a candidate.

Bob Butler wrote:Agreed, the Democrats are way overdoing the superdelegate thing. A lot of people do not want to see a Biden - Trump rematch in 2024, but each candidate in their own way has their party focused in that direction.

Bob Butler wrote:AgreedI don't know how Robert Kennedy Jr came up with his numbers, but it seems like he exaggerated. I still don't like superdelegates, but might eliminate the word 'way' above. I note Wiki reporting that the superdelegates never have changed the nominated candidate, never went against the will of the people.

Bob Butler wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:57 pm A quick check of the polls show Biden in the lead on the Democratic side with 76% of primary voters. Robert Kennedy Jr. is at 9%. While voters may want an option other than Biden, they obviously haven’t pinned RFK Jr. as their man. 15% of delegates being superdelegates couldn’t result in the party overriding the people. As it is hard to get excited by the several Republican candidates sitting below 10%, RFK Jr. isn’t a big deal yet either.

Sure, RFK Jr has to raise a stink about something, but I don’t think the superdelegate business alone is going to make him competitive. He needs to differentiate himself positively from Biden in other ways. I have been sorta impressed by Schumer and Raskin, but neither has looked ready to compete on the presidential stage. RFK Jr has not similarly impressed me, nor apparently most other Democrats.

That still doesn’t make me crazy about superdelegates, and I’m not crazy about a 2020 rematch either, but I don’t see Biden and Trump as having competition at the moment that would make the party big shot votes matter.