Burner Prime wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:38 pm
>   Pick your propaganda.
>   Many like to use the term "illegal annexation" when talking about
>   Russia taking control of Crimea. Really no one can define what
>   legal and illegal is anyway, or they do it as it suits their
>   argument. If some Third World court makes 'legal' decisions based
>   on existing law, such as detentions in Myanmar, China, Iran or
>   anywhere really - Westerners simply dismiss the legitimacy of that
>   court. That's very easy to do and is a cheap way out.
>   What was legal about US invasion of Iraq, or Afghanistan? How
>   about Lebanon, Grenada, Korea? What was legal about the annexation
>   of Hawaii or the total invasion of North America? Sure you can get
>   a bunch of suits together and declare some causus belli, but that
>   is just an excuse. 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' - clutch your
>   pearls and choose your propaganda as it suits you. What world
>   court decided based on some international law agreed to by all
>   parties? Who is subject to such a global court? Well no one
>   really.
>   A perfect example is this World News article - they are some of
>   the best propagandists - talking about how Israel is pushing for
>   more settlements in the West Bank. Here's the good stuff:
>   ...  "Israel annexed the 1,200-square-kilometre (460-square-mile)
>   Golan Heights in 1981, a move that was not recognised by the
>   international community. Syria demands the return of the strategic
>   plateau, which also overlooks Lebanon and borders Jordan."  ...
>   
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... an-heights
>   Pick your propaganda. They don't call it: "The 'illegal annexation
>   of Golan Heights' - for centuries inhabited by Arabs...", like
>   Neocons do about Crimea and Tatars.
>   But if some suits like Trump or Blinken legitimize it, it's all
>   good right? Pick your propaganda.
>   It's all about security, and anyone who dismisses Russia's
>   security concerns over the Black Sea and Ukraine is just choosing
>   their propaganda.
>   You could easily exchange words in the article to describe events
>   in Eastern Europe:
>   "Israel [Russia] annexed the 1,200-square-kilometre
>   (460-square-mile) Golan Heights [Crimea] in 1981 [2014], a move
>   that was not recognised by the international community. " HAHA
>   this is fun right?
>   "Israel [United States] annexed the 1,200-square-kilometre
>   (460-square-mile) Golan Heights [Hawaii] in 1981 [1898], a move
>   that was not recognised by the international community. " HAHA, we
>   could do this all day.
>   How about this directly from the US Dept of State website about
>   the annexation of Hawaii and deposing of a native born queen.
>   " When Queen Liliuokalani moved to establish a stronger monarchy,
>   Americans under the leadership of Samuel Dole deposed her in
>   1893."
>   
https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/gp/17661.htm
>   They don't even try to hide it, they know what they did was
>   heinous and "illegal", but after enough time goes by, the
>   legitimacy grows as the status is secured. That's what's going to
>   happen with Crimea and maybe parts of Eastern Ukraine. You can get
>   your panties in a bunch and hot and bothered like psychopath
>   Neo-con Senator Roger Wicker, calling for a nuclear first strike
>   on Russia over Ukraine, and choke on the ashes.
>   
https://www.foxnews.com/media/tulsi-gab ... aine-putin
>   It's not a football game.