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bluebird
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To preserve his legacy, I think Bernanke will do whatever he has to do to keep the markets afloat until he leaves (August?). So it could be a few more months.
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It's just that for the last two or three months I've had the feeling
that there's been a major change in mood. Whereas a year ago,
analysts on CNBC sounded as if they were believable, these days I
don't get the feeling that even they believe what they're saying. A
year ago, everyone genuinely expected the economy to take off this
year. Now, everyone realizes that the only thing holding up the stock
market is QE. Finally, there's Europe. A year ago, it was believed
that Europe's economy would start growing again. But Friday's
eurozone unemployment report was absolutely disastrous, and now nobody
seriously believes that Europe is anywhere close to growing again.

So what I'm saying is that this huge change in mood in the last year
might be what's needed to start a selloff. Something could trigger
that selloff, and today's eurozone unemployment report is the kind of
thing that might provide that trigger.
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John wrote:Now, everyone realizes that the only thing holding up the stock
market is QE.
You're right about that. I remember the days when good data was good and bad data was good because it meant "more QE". Now bad data is bad and good data is bad because it means "tapering QE".

I believe May 22 likely was the high of the market but I'm not sure we can expect the market to collapse right away. Today reminded me of a couple days in the past where panicky selling was seen a few days past an important high - October 19, 2007 (also a Friday) and April 10, 2012. In both cases, the market rebounded for a few days and went back up near the high. Whether that will happen again I just don't know - the market is so stretched this time around that maybe this time is different and there will be no rebound.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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There seems to be news about Syria almost daily. And now there are protests in Istanbul Turkey. Perhaps a major flare-up in the Mideast could be a trigger for a selloff in the markets. It'll be some kind of black swan, something that we haven't thought about.
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small slice of mood http://www.euronews.com/2013/06/01/scuf ... -protests/

Noske moment: "notorious for his ruthless suppression of a communist uprising" appearing so closer then I consider.
Peak 2015 fall was best early guess.

http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... ent#p18410

John's essential point is warranted. It will entail the continued backwardation to critical mass failure.
They should not off upset the Germans and delivered.

Parkinson's law
Peter principle
Dilbert Principle
Even the powers that be are stuck to the 3 options provided.

Holder's message was simple: "trust me, I am the government, and I will stop spying on you." The farce just goes downhill from there.
Zero trust from any brain not fried on ideological idiots. Drowning in retards and imposible to remove it. The founders knew this point
blank on limited government and we are drowning in self licking ice cream cones. The excuse the world will only allow them to be that
good wears thin. Joining the Socialist Demolition Derby underscores the failure to listen.

When pushed hard by economists, some welfare propagandists and socialists admit that impairment of the average standard of living can only be avoided by the maintenance of capital already accumulated and that economic improvement depends on accumulation of additional capital. Maintenance of capital and accumulation of new capital, they say, will henceforth be a task of government. They will no longer be left to the selfishness of individuals, exclusively concerned with their own enrichment and that of their families.


Carl noted, The principle of maximum ruin will use this "correction" to sucker those on the sidelines into the maelstrom.
I feel that is the point since they will DO anything.

I remember what the SEC said. ALL LIES
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Relative high points at the upper bound of the channel are
1220 at April 2010
1344 at February 2011
1371 at May 2011

The boundary of the lower channel is 667 to 1075 in 31 months (13.17 points per month).

Maintaining the slope of the lower channel from 1220 to May 2013 would result in a price of
1220 + 13.17*37 = 1707.

Likewise, from
1344 + 13.17*27 = 1700.
1371 + 13.17*24 = 1687.
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35 trading day cycle and 29 week cycle (or turning points).

Not sure about the implications but they have been reliable for a long time. Personally I would like to see the 35 day come in as a low (Friday), then the 29 week invert from the lows seen previously into a blowoff top next or the following week into the 1700 channel area to end this. I doubt that will happen but it would be somewhat definitive (which is why it probably won't happen). Though I think if it did it would screw a lot of people up.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca ... by-64-146/

As I noted much earlier my Doctor said 30 percent increase just to comply from day one. I have two in medical and point blank
not one word from government can be trusted period. All lies.
http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... ses#p19033 contextual facts < ------as warned ------------<<<<<
http://www.newsmax.com/GroverNorquist/O ... /id/443995
The Obamacare law contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses

Taxpayers are reminded that the president’s healthcare law is one of the largest tax increases in American history.
Obamacare contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses.
They will DESTROY YOU and are -- Business never pay taxes you do
The ones with a brain in there head are retiring so good luck needing help from gosplan medical, you will need it.
As we reported here the replacement doctors are flooding in enmass from puerto rico

primer to whats next and ongoing http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/08/ ... ation.html

Rule number 1> Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule … Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

Name one thing from them this year true other than we must spend more to save you!

As for Syria it is about the noth south pipeline and idiots from totalitarian governments period.

I stick to my if lucky fall of 2015 until systemic failures cratering in and the rot just implodes.

totalitarian political system masquerading as a religion

moderates understand confusion shelters corruption
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From reality based thought I seen today...
Au, Ag, Pb and by all means learn to speak Mandarin.

If the Chinese are increasing their footprint around the world, hold vast amounts of gold, are using our worthless FRNs to buy up solid assets like pork plants and real estate in the U.S., and sure as heck appear to be the rising power, a functional understanding of their language would be a powerful capability.

Even more powerful would be to make your kids learn it.

They will be worlds ahead of their peers.

Relegated voted in employees are slow to listen, are you?

Another foot note in history that some miss is the influenza of miserys decimated civilition and military abilities on all sides.
Dolchstosslegende, was invented in September 1918 by General Ludendorff. As soon as he realised that the war was lost, he called for the formation of a civilian government which would sue for peace. His original idea was to make the civilians take the blame and save the reputation of the armed forces.

This entry is for where Vin has it noted onward to be as the trajectory some note: http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... ned#p19111

Another step close would convey my thought from Johns accurate query...

Whe pestilance and military meet as before from Athens forward the pattern can and has repeated.
Another facet would be since they are educated as we noted correctly so no excuses...that one might ask the question, "Aren't American socialists in favor of their own country's survival?" To answer this question, we must turn to abnormal psychology. Socialism... is not the pioneer of a better and finer world, but the spoiler of what thousands of years of civilization have created. It does not build; it destroys. For destruction is the essence of it. It produces nothing, it only consumes what the social order based on private ownership in the means of production has created. As I noted TSTS for clarity

Don't show me eight apples Washington you never worked for and then try to tell me I have ten to tax. It only makes you all look stupid.
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http://larouchepub.com/other/1995/2249_ ... avery.html

That's right Moa had a plan. Yours is the grain colony collective now. Enjoy....

http://archive.org/details/WilliamCoope ... APaleHorse

The Kids Are (Not) Alright

http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/201 ... busin.html

The second after they take your weapons your dead.
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