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at99sy
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John wrote:
at99sy wrote:
Higgenbotham wrote:Anybody think this stock market can crash now? Looks to me like it's ready.
There is not a significant chance this market will turn down hard until the supports are pulled out or a major event takes place.
It will have to burn out not fade away-to paraphrase an old song fro Def Leppard.

If we assume, as we all do, that the market is being boosted by QE,
then it's still possible that the market bubble has even gotten ahead
of the QE, especially since the QE is not increasing, so a panic could
still start.
The market is down for the moment on the suggestion of the fed talking about ending QE. This suggestion of talking about ending QE seems to be appearing more often the past couple of months. Could be softening up the markets for the eventual and actual talk of ending QE in order to feel out the reaction of the markets and public to it. IF it does not suffer more than a 1-2% pullback with each mention, they will probably creep forward with their plans. Comfort the masses with "news" and forewarning and they are quite easy to manipulate and manage.

With all the domestic problems the O admin is juggling right now, all is needed is for any or all of the stories to gain momentum and we could have a uber-watergate or magic-bullet scenario on our hands which could be the lever to topple the shaky confidence in this house of cards.
aedens
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Higgenbotham wrote:The market has also been boosted by corporate buybacks of stock. Most of these buybacks are financed by borrowing at the recent low interest rates. Interest rates have risen fast over the past few weeks and that will slow the corporate buybacks.

This is affected by QE if reducing or not increasing QE causes interest rates to rise. Also if more QE causes loss of faith in the currency (as in Japan) then more QE can cause interest rates to rise anyway. I suspect what happened in Japan is why the Fed seems nervous - they don't want that to happen here.

Another way to look at it Higg is a few Company's funded obligations and the balance sheet repairs has put the boot on the Bankers neck and who is decided terminal of course. Not all is at it appears. In your context I will forward a percentage of truth of accuracy of your statement. They got the memo in 2005 some retards made crucial errors even before that. We mentioned rope burn and when these political retards figure out when the system gets hit with that shock it cannot be supported. They are stalling since its already stalling and sluggish at best as they insist inflationing the debt away will save them. Not going to happen now is it since they add ZERO added value or growth in a nominal wage earners market. The effect IS accounting only as commoditys scream this a hot money that provides what other than confusion and retards skimming off what they can providing what the world truly is as in a finite suppy of resources.
You need to understand the mindset of the true money that three nodes supply and pit others for arbitrage since business IS defined by law as politicians honor not even themselves and taxpayers are not even engaged since as we note top to bottom life boat ethics in a percieved stress reality of the essentials as water, wheat, and weather. Avarice '"to covet" will do us all in since do you expect politics to even catch up to reality since look what acedemics produced for decades. Not going to happen as we prepare in the real world for what truly is ongoing. Look which way the current consolidations "stock" are going and remember what was after that in "flow".

It gets much more complicated since some of us sprouted in troubled times and as I was reminded recently:
Psychopolitik manual by Lavrentiy Beria, one sick mother !@#$%^
- To produce a maximum of chaos in the culture of the enemy is our first most important step. Our fruits are grown in chaos, distrust, economic depression and scientific turmoil. At least a weary populace can seek peace only in our offered Communist State, at last only Communism can resolve the problems of the masses.
- In a Capitalistic state you are aided on all sides by the corruption of the philosophy of man and the times. You will discover that everything will aid you in your campaign to seize, control and use all "mental healing" to spread our doctrine and rid us of our enemies within their own borders.
- By psychopolitics create chaos. Leave a nation leaderless. Kill our enemies.

John made a comment on Tzu and yes we have read that also.
- Show me the man, and I will find you the crime. Real or imagined
As they ask for you to be maimed will they take out there own eye or covet it more.
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aedens
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06 ... issue-now/
Thursday, January 10, 1963
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
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gerald
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aedens wrote:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06 ... issue-now/
Thursday, January 10, 1963
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

taxpayers are idiots tsts
And psychiatric disorders and a behavioral problems are defined as what? http://jaapl.org/content/30/1/136.full.pdf

"political abuse of psychiatry appears to represent a straightforward and uncomplicated story: the deployment of medicine as an instrument of repression."
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gerald wrote:
aedens wrote:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06 ... issue-now/
Thursday, January 10, 1963
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

taxpayers are idiots tsts
And psychiatric disorders and a behavioral problems are defined as what? http://jaapl.org/content/30/1/136.full.pdf

"political abuse of psychiatry appears to represent a straightforward and uncomplicated story: the deployment of medicine as an instrument of repression."
note the typical response from the paper also G

“It is not possible in this type of study to determine whether [the Soviet psychiatrists’] diagnoses were based on idiosyncratic
medical considerations alone or if political pressures influenced their judgment, thus resulting in deliberate
misuse of psychiatry for purposes of social control.”

http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-b ... ays-plants
Unconfirmed but these people are totaly insane. What the hell is wrong with The White House.
The taxpayer with his thinking cap on Dear Senator X sure as hell is not blind as you think.
When the actual Democrats and Republicans wake up we moderates will be waiting for you since they have gone over the wire
to the dark side. More are waking up http://donny-allen.us/2012/10/23/ill-ni ... b-johnson/
http://donny-allen.us/ this guy is sharp and asking the proper questions
I will not contemplate the world will only allow them to be that good. We have one bias only since we are Americans.
The hustlers and we know what and who they will be swept away red or blue whats the difference.
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CNBC is using the phrase "really scary" this morning.
aedens
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John wrote:CNBC is using the phrase "really scary" this morning.
Chilton said "fundamental thought" and I turned it.
Greece being starved into submission will backfire given the History of the people there.
The strike is censured from media coverages it appears.

Patriotism is supporting your country always -- and your government when they deserve it. Mark Twain
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aedens wrote:
John wrote:CNBC is using the phrase "really scary" this morning.
Chilton said "fundamental thought" and I turned it.
Greece being starved into submission will backfire given the History of the people there.
The strike is censured from media coverages it appears.

Patriotism is supporting your country always -- and your government when they deserve it. Mark Twain
How interesting -- an awaking? -- with technology, governments know more about what the people think and how to manipulate them, and with such developing devices as the human micro chip, improve control of them

https://www.google.com/search?q=Microchip_implant_(human&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rN25UYfjLob_yQG37oD4Cw&ved=0CD4QsAQ&biw=1920&bih=1087
A religion that was known for preserving knowledge - Islam - is now heavily engaged in suppressing thought by force and deceit ( it is not the only one )

"we would have better received {better off with } Mohammedanism, those doctrines of the reward of heroism - combatants alone have the seventh heaven! With that the Germans would have conquered the world." - Adolf Hitler - http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2013/06/hitl ... slims.html

--- generally speaking -- organized religion is a mind prison and a great way to control and direct the masses, for then the masses control themselves for the benefit of the others -- their masters.

Things seem to be coming together for the reinforcement and improvement of the "global prison".

From my June 12 post under "unthinkable" --- Planet Earth is not our home. It is our prison.---

and a distraction device --

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-1 ... ving-china
Chinese Dissident Ai Weiwei: "The U.S. Is Behaving Like China"

"99.9% of the population must come together and understand that oligarchs within the U.S. and oligarchs within China are united against us all. We must never forget this. These guys don’t fight wars. Rather, they rape, steal and pillage and then send you to do their dirty work. Don’t fall for it."

Will humanity become aware in time to prevent the improvement of the prison and make a step toward freedom ? It will be messy.
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Well G
Trade during extended hours (4:15 PM to 6:30 PM, ET)
I find the Governments maybe need to wake up and explore how we can solve problems a better idea.
Time will tell as we cover alot of ground here. I have found faith is best left at the the base of the cross
since I read we get new robes since as conveyed we will all smell like smoke and singed from the travails
here at times. Steven got a free pass and a standing reception to honor his truth unlike our brothers butchered
in silence today some think. Franklin covered it as we have three choices to understand on that. I try to be a category
one since many things cannot be explained by the so called modern man.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Imagine+Dragons+-+Radioactive

totalitarian political system masquerading as a religion
moderates understand confusion shelters corruption

Also to consider a drill down thought map on some facts:
Given the link between East African and central South American rainfall and solar activity, the list of economic impacts from the current solar minimum (Solar Cycles 24 and 25) can be expanded to:
1. Canadian agricultural will get a severe whacking from a shortened growing season and un-seasonal frosts.
2. 24 year drought in central South America
3. 24 year drought in East Africa
4. Paraguay and Brazil having severe power shortages.

This list is by no means exhaustive. The last time the world witnessed mass starvation was the 1965-67 drought in India which killed 1.5 million people.
Things don’t look pretty.
References:
Mauas, P.J..D., A.P.Buccino and E.Flamenco, 2010, Long-term solar activity influences on South American rivers, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics on Space Climate, March 2010.
Mason, P.J., 2010, Climate variability in civil infrastructure planning, Civil Engineering 163, pages 74-80.

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_prism_global/?cQEUUbb

Mark Zuckerberg, United States of America 38 seconds ago
http://www.vice.com/read/dislike-why-ev ... g-facebook faceplant as we noted day one....
To President Barack Obama:

This day was seen some time ago, do not waste it.

http://finviz.com/futures_performance.ashx?v=14
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Reality Check
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The main stream media finally got around to reading the Obamacare Law.

Those of us who actually read it before it was passed have known this for years.
Associated Press Article wrote:But what's reasonable? Because of a wrinkle in the law, companies can meet their legal obligations by offering policies that would be too expensive for many low-wage workers. For the employee, it's like a mirage - attractive but out of reach.

The company can get off the hook, say corporate consultants and policy experts, but the employee could still face a federal requirement to get health insurance.
What the article neglected to point out: the low wage worker would also fail to qualify for federal credits / subsidies to buy a policy on the exchange ( because he could have purchased an "affordable" policy at work ); So the employee would be unable to afford a policy from his/her company, also unable to afford to buy a policy on the exchange, be totally without health insurance, and be subject to a fine from IRS of hundreds ( increasing each year to thousands ) of dollars a year for failing to buy a policy he could not afford.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 3-11-18-58
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