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Re: Financial topics

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:46 pm
by aedens
and these guys also http://www.educatedguesswork.org/

I find myself leaving them one day at time. The wasting process is unrelenting and we can model FDR to the intent
and the blow back on the imposed kill switches. Mobile phone, abandoned years ago, operating sytems, plugging all ports.
Remember when we warned wrong app is a bullet in the head. People are very slow in the head.

moves a lot of complexity from the browser to the JavaScript. kiss of death and they cannot see it.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:51 pm
by gerald
H, -------------- have you noticed the increasing cost of food? I do not know how some can do it. A few things in the shopping cart is over a hundred bucks, and apparently former middle management near retirement personnel are now checking groceries, not good. And "Poland Confiscates Half Of Private Pension Funds To "Cut" Sovereign Debt Load" http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-0 ... -debt-load
Who is next? The wheels appear to be loosening if not coming off.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:07 pm
by aedens
We doubled the garden and the girls barter numerous items. The kids are over on the week ends for produce
since being in college is draining. Other means of economy are growing since the DC parasites are insane
death cult thieves. Yea bad people are killing people since Cain and Able. I will use the Winchester when they
swim over the oceans.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:08 pm
by vincecate
Higgenbotham wrote:
vincecate wrote:My guess is things fall apart by the time it gets to 3.5%.
I believe when this crisis hits it will exhibit a worldwide loss of confidence in everything: the rule of law, the judicial system, all politicians, all education systems, all government bureacracies, all currencies, all bond markets, all stock markets, all retirement systems, all entitlement systems...in other words, political, economic and social systems. What will be considered to be the tipping point or the area attributed I don't know. Maybe none of the above. Maybe a big earthquake will hit and it will be blamed on that.

I can imagine that at 3.5% things will be falling apart and at higher interest rates things will be falling apart more. What would be your definition of that? What comes to my mind is things are falling apart when the government checks get cut. They still arrive but the dollar amount is less. What do you think the interest rate will be the day that happens? I'll guess 7.2%.
Mostly I think the stock market will crash. My dream investment plan is first stock market crash, then with profits from that into Yen puts, then Yen crash, then move into gold/silver and those go way up as dollar goes down, then with high interest rates and 2 main banks in trouble in Anguilla and forced by IMF to sell land there is lots of land cheap and I get some of that.

I don't think everything will fall apart as much as you seem to, at least not right away.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:13 pm
by aedens
The market is crashing and many just do not even care. Vanilla left long ago. Paper burns as parasites plead let us screw you blind.
Most assets are in Canadian assets since the chinese will over pay for assets just as the Japs did. We have light switch investments.
If they fail you are in the stone ages anyway.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:13 pm
by vincecate
aedens wrote:We doubled the garden and the girls barter numerous items. The kids are over on the week ends for produce
since being in college is draining. Other means of economy are growing since the DC parasites are insane
death cult thieves. Yea bad people are killing people since Cain and Able. I will use the Winchester when they
swim over the oceans.
Economists think barter is not efficient. But in the real world it avoids sales tax, social security tax, obamacare tax, income tax, unemployment tax, inflation tax, etc and when taxes are as high as they are now it can be much more efficient.

Typically when there is hyperinflation you see much more barter. It may even start before and contribute since the tax base is smaller and government has to print more money.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:22 pm
by aedens
vincecate wrote:
aedens wrote:We doubled the garden and the girls barter numerous items. The kids are over on the week ends for produce
since being in college is draining. Other means of economy are growing since the DC parasites are insane
death cult thieves. Yea bad people are killing people since Cain and Able. I will use the Winchester when they
swim over the oceans.
Economists think barter is not efficient. But in the real world it avoids sales tax, social security tax, obamacare tax, income tax, unemployment tax, inflation tax, etc and when taxes are as high as they are now it can be much more efficient.

Typically when there is hyperinflation you see much more barter. It may even start before and contribute since the tax base is smaller and government has to print more money.
Tribute payments are coming: http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/20 ... hina.shtml

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:26 pm
by John
vincecate wrote: Mostly I think the stock market will crash. My dream investment plan is first stock market crash, then with profits from that into Yen puts, then Yen crash, then move into gold/silver and those go way up as dollar goes down, then with high interest rates and 2 main banks in trouble in Anguilla and forced by IMF to sell land there is lots of land cheap and I get some of that.

I don't think everything will fall apart as much as you seem to, at least not right away.
The yen isn't going to crash.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:37 pm
by aedens
Yea, nuclear power will win the day for the Yen based on no resources. Based on the full faith of paper tigers who
other paper tigers truly dislike. We have all read the SDR papers from the G30. Begger thy neighbor will be a new topic
in economics so ask Mexico how long that lasted. Anyway Japan Inc. is all over the States even before they printed as we trended.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:39 pm
by vincecate
John wrote:The yen isn't going to crash.
They are printing so fast they increased the money supply by 3.4% in the last 10 day period.

US interest rates have doubled. Typically this should cause the dollar to go up relative to currencies with much lower interest rates that did not go up.

They got rid of the "bank note rule" so there is no limit to the number of Yen any more and have said they will double the number of Yen.

The government is spending twice what they get in taxes and needs the central bank to fund the deficit.

How could the Yen not crash?

http://howfiatdies.blogspot.com/2013/05 ... ng-at.html