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Re: Financial topics

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:43 am
by jcsok
gerald wrote:
sorry I made a wrong choice of words --------
How do the few principled and productive overcome the many unprincipled and nonproductive? ------- force or religion or ?

Let me apologize in advance for being facetious, but all I can say is...... Shrug. And I am truly sad sad that this is the only answer that I can post in response.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:43 am
by gerald
jcsok wrote:
gerald wrote:
sorry I made a wrong choice of words --------
How do the few principled and productive overcome the many unprincipled and nonproductive? ------- force or religion or ?

Let me apologize in advance for being facetious, but all I can say is...... Shrug. And I am truly sad sad that this is the only answer that I can post in response.
No need to feel sad, I can understand why you would interpret it that way, logical comment and not really facetious, but true.
One of the interesting things that I have learned on this site is how other people interpret words and ideas. Due to different perspectives , experiences , etc.

cheers

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:57 pm
by gerald
A gentle reminder that Nature holds all of the trump cards ----- and effects everything.

Nature offers periods of stability punctuated by brief periods of shear terror.

Strong Pakistani Earthquake Creates New Island Off Country's Coast http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-2 ... trys-coast

And a possible trigger for this event --- A solar coronal hole http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/daily-news/
click on "daily news" and look up -- 7.8 Earthquake: Pakistan - The Data, and Genesis of the Earthquake Watch

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:39 pm
by Higgenbotham
Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:11 pm

4. None of this movement had anything to do with people thinking that the US government was in danger of an earlier than expected default (due to the rate on the 5 year rising faster lately) as I had speculated earlier.
Default fears for US government debt abruptly increased on Monday. The fear is still at a relatively low level.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... one-chart/

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:53 pm
by Higgenbotham
aedens wrote:
gerald wrote:
aedens wrote:“The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world that it leaves to its children.”
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
How do the few overcome the many?
gerald wrote:One of the interesting things that I have learned on this site is how other people interpret words and ideas. Due to different perspectives , experiences , etc.

cheers
I took it to mean "How can the relatively few young people (due to declining birth rates) stop the relatively many old people (due to increasing life spans) from bankrupting the country and destroying their future?".

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:09 pm
by gerald
Higgenbotham -- continuing the above thread

A very interesting comment and observation --------- true, and it holds for quite a few "advanced economies"

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:57 am
by vincecate
Higgenbotham wrote: I took it to mean "How can the relatively few young people (due to declining birth rates) stop the relatively many old people (due to increasing life spans) from bankrupting the country and destroying their future?".
And as the young people get squeezed they feel less able to afford children and things get even worse.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:30 am
by gerald
vincecate wrote:
Higgenbotham wrote: I took it to mean "How can the relatively few young people (due to declining birth rates) stop the relatively many old people (due to increasing life spans) from bankrupting the country and destroying their future?".
And as the young people get squeezed they feel less able to afford children and things get even worse.
And the "leaders" don't want to change things for fear changes might upset "their" apple cart.
As the old saying goes -- The fish rots from the head down.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:54 am
by gerald
gerald wrote:A gentle reminder that Nature holds all of the trump cards ----- and effects everything.

Nature offers periods of stability punctuated by brief periods of shear terror.

Strong Pakistani Earthquake Creates New Island Off Country's Coast http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-2 ... trys-coast

And a possible trigger for this event --- A solar coronal hole http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/daily-news/
click on "daily news" and look up -- 7.8 Earthquake: Pakistan - The Data, and Genesis of the Earthquake Watch
From http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/daily-news/ today the 25th
From the 23rd, an earthquake "warning" due to a very strong magnetic field pointing in an Earth facing direction from a coronal hole.
ww.emirates247.com/pakistan-earthquake-latest-death-toll-reaches-327-new-island-created-2013-09-24-1.522199 -- photos of island --- http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/50893 ... island.htm

Nature influences us from many directions.

Re: Financial topics

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:19 am
by Higgenbotham
Washington veterans say past generations of politicians would not even have entertained such a prospect so seriously.

That is allowing doubts to grow where investors previously had none. America is far from insolvent and, for generations, investors have bet there was no risk that America would fail to make good on its debts.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/ ... 7S20130924