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aedens wrote: He lives there. Who owns the factions?

As the link indicated - Bullets fired at both protesters and police from above. Chaos of course, accidents in politics no damn way.
I reread your story again. It makes sense. As here in the states the fbi was stuck on a case. Called the mob to get a 22 page confession.
Broke the case of the three civil rights kids murdered.

The fact that someone lives in a country doesn't necessarily mean that
they know what's going on in the country, especially when they're
highly partisan. You yourself make that point every day about
Americans.

The writer is a Thai-Chinese who is super pissed off that the
light-skinned elite Thai-Chinese are a minority, and so the dark
skinned laboring Thai-Thai class are going to win every election.
Democracy sucks. Shinawatra is the Thai-Thai hero, and the writer
hates Shinawatra because he hates the Thai-Thai.

John wrote:

aedens wrote: He lives there. Who owns the factions?

As the link indicated - Bullets fired at both protesters and police from above. Chaos of course, accidents in politics no damn way.
I reread your story again. It makes sense. As here in the states the fbi was stuck on a case. Called the mob to get a 22 page confession.
Broke the case of the three civil rights kids murdered.

The fact that someone lives in a country doesn't necessarily mean that
they know what's going on in the country, especially when they're
highly partisan. You yourself every day about
Americans.

The writer is a Thai-Chinese who is super pissed off that the
light-skinned elite Thai-Chinese are a minority, and so the dark
skinned laboring Thai-Thai class are going to win every election.
Democracy sucks. Shinawatra is the Thai-Thai hero, and the writer
hates Shinawatra because he hates the Thai-Thai.

Yes, I did repost that "make that point" http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 092225.htm as social silences and the silent war on us.

The first years of life if nuerons do not connect for critical thinking they simply die, so one half of the human race is half brain disconneted social and medical mask in studies they wish to elaborate. As we note ask a kindergarden teacher whats coming as does nature to nuture questions to homemakers who have that option to see what is going on. Glad Independants can renew portions of it other than the book of Romans. As life is to date if your over one hundred points you can get by and see what is if they read decent material. This age can be better unless a few warped beings enjoy the butchering once the sheep pens are generally stocked full as we get stuck cleaning up when they get about done in that essense of evil. Yes as owls, as to mice. Damn sticky wages anyways....

Zechariah 12:1-3 NKJV The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: (2) "Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. (3) And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it.


Boundry stones, you cut up the boundry, he will cut you up who owns all. All else is noise.

aedens wrote:http://www.scribd.com/doc/192933158/2013yearinreview-30#

Lots of good information there. At one point he said he realized, "It's not supposed to make any sense." This year I came to the same conclusion, coming up with the same phrase, which I repeat at times to remind myself that it is simply not supposed to make any sense. Trying to reason with psychopaths or trying to find any reason in the words or actions of a pack of psychopaths is useless.

All year I scrambled to piece together the Fed garble into a coherent picture with no luck, and then I had an epiphany: It’s not supposed to make any sense. Economist Vince Reinhart nailed it.250 He argues that in 1994, the Fed pushed for transparency by publishing the FOMC minutes, which promptly showed that the governors all sounded like imbeciles. This soon caused the discussions to become stiff, orchestrated, and altogether useless for real decision making. The Fed learned to cover up its foibles a la Breakfast at Bernie’s: the Fed would prop their completely incoherent Fed Chair (Greenspan) in a chair to babble “Fed Speak” at Congress. They branded this garbled dialect as a skill rather than just the bloviating incoherent Fed Chair working from flawed models. With Greenspan’s departure, the Fed desperately needed incoherence. The Fed discovered that a series of seemingly thoughtful statements from the individual governors, when put together, made no sense whatsoever. Shazaam! Total confusion.

http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/8410 ... iew-part-2

Let me know what you come up with. Bottom line is I have no idea what the hell is going on.

We are here for now H from the secular GD modeling --- We can underpin it with Klingberg and his cycle of
political deviats. Calculating the mean and standard deviat.

aedens wrote:We are here for now H from the secular GD modeling.

The stock market hasn't made new highs during the past GD crisis periods. Of course that doesn't mean it's not a crisis; in fact, it could mean it will ultimately resolve in a worse crisis. I've only seen one plausible explanation for why the stock market might be making a new high in the midst of a GD crisis period:

In the future, therefore, to gauge how the descent is going, one should not be taken in by statistics. The crucial measure of economic health will be the evidence of genuine innovation that people experience in their everyday lives. If some major new item appears in one’s home, comparable to the vacuum cleaner, the video recorder, or the microwave oven, one can assume that the dark age is getting further away, perhaps by a quarter of a century or more. On the other hand, one may find it difficult to identify what is driving the stock market. One’s own consumption may be of mostly transient pleasures, and one may worry whether one’s work is really making a positive contribution to the commonweal. In that case, the economic descent will be proceeding unchecked.

This is from The Ccming Dark Age by Marc Widdowson, previously mentioned.

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/12/3-key- ... s-of-2014/

We can underpin it with Klingberg and his cycle. I see it all over. The statist have lost there minds. The state police
are not getting the documents to "seisures" of propertys ---- Calculating the mean and standard deviat. ----

aedens wrote:http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/12/3-key- ... s-of-2014/

The first is that we’re living in a time of astonishing progress with digital technologies—those that have computer hardware, software, and networks at their core. These technologies are not brand-new; businesses have been buying computers for more than half a century, and Time magazine declared the personal computer its “Machine of the Year” in 1982.

This is sort of my point.

The type of thing that Widdowson might be looking for is, first, we know that oil production has been plateauing worldwide since 2005. It's true that the US is doing a decent job of maintaining business as usual with tight oil, which will likely lead to horrendous consequences but nonetheless business as usual is being mantained for now. However, it's also universally understood that the gap tight oil is filling will open once again in a few years. In order to fill that gap, Widdowson might envision something like small scale fusion reactors that can be placed in neighborhoods or homes that provide lower cost or even free power with electric vehicles taking the place of gasoline powered vehicles. They might be computer operated and networked but the fact that computers are involved wouldn't be too exciting in this case because the new technology would be getting the attention.

As a secondary point, I think the descent process has less to do with the technology, as some small subset of the population has always been capable of producing technology, and more to do with how the technology is used by those outside that subset. The fact that the SEC is watching porn instead of enforcing regulations or that the NSA is watching Americans instead of using the technology for some benefit are two of many examples we read routinely of misuse of computer technology.

http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... nized#p840

Drucker said the real innovation was e-commerce but he was also worried about the demographics. The hard work and thrift he talked about coming ain't happening; at least, I don't see it.

He also made the direct comparison between the steam engine and the computer, as made in your link above. The steam engine produced the railroad and the computer produced e-commerce.

But we don’t just consume calories and gasoline. We also consume information from books and friends, entertainment from superstars and amateurs, expertise from teachers and doctors, and countless other things that are not made of atoms. Technology can bring us more choice and even freedom.

This circles back around to the fact that if consuming all that information results in anything that is economically useful, that would be the desired result, but it's not happening. Just consuming or generating lots of harmful or useless information like porn or NSA files isn't an end in and of itself. Some of the information can increase efficiency but the efficiency increases have to be able to carry the load that the natural increase in quantity and quality of energy carried for a couple centuries without anyone really thinking about it. Getting the economy 3% or more efficent year after year with better information is a greater challenge than growing energy supplies 3% year after year. If energy supplies deplete it will need to be even more than that.

In spite of all that I can't find any standard cycle that has operated since the advent of the modern era that can explain why the stock market would be going higher during a crisis period. The larger cycle of a coming dark age that Widdowson offers would reside outside of anything seen in the past 500 years. If there were genuine innovation coming that is capable of extricating out of this mess, the authorities would direct their attention toward investment in that rather than directing their attention toward masking an economic decline with money printing and higher stock prices.

In 1936, stock prices in Britain peaked out about 40% over their 1928 high. The chart is in an old book and not the best. I've never seen any corroboration, or anything to indicate it didn't happen.

Of course we know that the British Empire was in its twilight at that time and the US was up and coming. I suppose the question now is whether there is an up and coming country comparable to what the US was in the 1930s. If it's China, for example, the innovation might come out of China and not from here.

But it's interesting to draw the comparison to the fact that record British stock prices in 1936 were not necessarily indicating a continued dominant role for Britain. That was never apparent until I began to think about this more in light of the current situation.

Hegel was right in saying the only thing we learn from history is that it's ignored.

Everyone has the right to starve.
To posture constructive views today the reaction is the amout consumed from others and attack about what they consider actual knowledge is.
Life gave us a current lesson as a punch in the nose again with the ice storm here.
No president, no govenor, no senator, no fed came to our rescue, and sadly many deaths. Its that simple today.
We got by and checked on folks to needs. For the folks that came to help from all over, thank you.
After all this hate as we discussed here why cannot the they say the effective tax rate is going to 22 percent
from 20 percent.
Everyone has the right to starve.