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23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF-41

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:51 am
by John
23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF-41 long-range nuclear-capable missile

Al-Qaeda apologizes for terrorist attack on Yemen hospital

** 23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF-41 long-range nuclear-capable missile
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e131223




Contents:
China conducts flight test of DF-41 long-range nuclear-capable missile
Al-Qaeda apologizes for terrorist attack on Yemen hospital
Egypt's junta targets secularists in addition to Muslim Brothers


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, China, Dong Feng-41, DF-41, DF-21D, JL-2,
Air Force National Air and Space Intelligence Center,
Yemen, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, AQAP,
Egypt, Muslim Brotherhood, Hosni Mubarak

Re: 23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:02 am
by solomani
A single nuke landing in the USA would mean China covered in nuclear fire. The retaliation ability of the USA far exceeds China. I can't see it happening.

War yes, but not directly between the USA and China.

Re: 23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:39 am
by John
solomani wrote: > A single nuke landing in the USA would mean China covered in
> nuclear fire. The retaliation ability of the USA far exceeds
> China. I can't see it happening. War yes, but not directly
> between the USA and China.
I've heard this reasoning many times. The same reasoning explains why
it was impossible for Japan to attack Pearl Harbor in 1941 or for the
American South to attack the North in 1861.

Re: 23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:27 am
by RichardTheTrader
You poor, poor, poor, poor fool. It is the United States that will attack China, not the other way around.

Re: 23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:30 am
by John
RichardTheTrader wrote: > You poor, poor, poor, poor fool. It is the United States that will
> attack China, not the other way around.
I may indeed be a poor, poor, poor fool, but it's China that will
launch a preemptive nuclear attack, not the U.S.

Re: 23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:51 pm
by solomani
John wrote:
solomani wrote: > A single nuke landing in the USA would mean China covered in
> nuclear fire. The retaliation ability of the USA far exceeds
> China. I can't see it happening. War yes, but not directly
> between the USA and China.
I've heard this reasoning many times. The same reasoning explains why
it was impossible for Japan to attack Pearl Harbor in 1941 or for the
American South to attack the North in 1861.
Those don't hold. Nuclear destruction was not in the picture. What held back the USSR and the USA if not nukes? It will be much more like the cold war than your other examples.

Re: 23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:44 pm
by John
solomani wrote: > Those don't hold. Nuclear destruction was not in the picture. What
> held back the USSR and the USA if not nukes? It will be much more
> like the cold war than your other examples.
The thing that held back the nukes was the generational
Awakening/Unraveling eras. Today most of the world is in a
generational Crisis era, and you don't have a "cold war" during a
crisis era.

The reason that Generational Dynamics works is that people in a Crisis
era always think that everything's the same as things were 10, 20 or
30 years ago. The whole point of generational theory is to say
emphatically that that's not true.

If you want to compare today's mood and behavior to a previous era,
then you have to go back to the 1930s-40s. The 1970s, 80s and 90s are
totally irrelevant.

John

Re: 23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:48 pm
by Guest
John wrote:
solomani wrote: > Those don't hold. Nuclear destruction was not in the picture. What
> held back the USSR and the USA if not nukes? It will be much more
> like the cold war than your other examples.
The thing that held back the nukes was the generational
Awakening/Unraveling eras. Today most of the world is in a
generational Crisis era, and you don't have a "cold war" during a
crisis era.

The reason that Generational Dynamics works is that people in a Crisis
era always think that everything's the same as things were 10, 20 or
30 years ago. The whole point of generational theory is to say
emphatically that that's not true.


If you want to compare today's mood and behavior to a previous era,
then you have to go back to the 1930s-40s. The 1970s, 80s and 90s are
totally irrelevant.


John
I agree completely. (Unfortunately.)

Re: 23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:47 pm
by chrono117
solomani wrote:A single nuke landing in the USA would mean China covered in nuclear fire. The retaliation ability of the USA far exceeds China. I can't see it happening.

War yes, but not directly between the USA and China.
So that's what all the ghost cities China built are for. They're for them to move into after we blow up the occupied ones.

Re: 23-Dec-13 World View -- China conducts flight test of DF

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:20 am
by solomani
My strategic advice if I was the USA anda nuke was launched at the US (whether in landed or not) would be to burn China except for HK. Between HK and Taiwan a democratic China would be born and US hegemony would be guaranteed for another century.