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15-May-18 World View -- Gaza violence surges in Palestinian 'Great March for Return' into Israel


Opening of US embassy in Jerusalem stirs strong reactions

** 15-May-18 World View -- Gaza violence surges in Palestinian 'Great March for Return' into Israel
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Contents:
Gaza violence surges in Palestinian 'Great March for Return' into Israel
Opening of US embassy in Jerusalem stirs strong reactions


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Israel, Gaza, Jerusalem,
Hamas, Great March for Return, David Friedman,
Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein, Marwan Bishara, Steven Mnuchin

Yesterday's Gaza violence was a foregone conclusion. As a woman, I will categorically state that at any age I could not have been talked, pushed or carried into the front shield line. How obvious that all cultures are not created with abilities to be factually educated and to reason.
Israel has moved ahead of every nation in educational and inventive achievements. Young people serve their country, and the entire nation lives in perpetual red alert. The palestineans' rabid chaotic violent tantrums win them death and destruction. America has fallen from leadership because we have lost moral core and failed to appreciate the blessings of freedom fought for by our forefathers. The awakening has begun here. Whether it will succeed is the question.

Devorah wrote: > Yesterday's Gaza violence was a foregone conclusion. As a woman,
> I will categorically state that at any age I could not have been
> talked, pushed or carried into the front shield line. How obvious
> that all cultures are not created with abilities to be factually
> educated and to reason.

It's not a cultural thing. It's a generational thing -- specifically,
where the society is on the generational timeline. When you're
fighting an enemy in a generational Crisis era, there are many things
you would do without thinking that you wouldn't do in other eras.

What the Gazans are doing today is not dissimilar to what Americans
did on D-Day, June 6, 1944. Tens of thousands of soldiers were sent
to the beaches of Normandy, where they were shot down like fish in a
barrel. That was possible and acceptable in a generational Crisis era
at that point on the generational timeline. Since the end of WW II,
there has been no time when anything like the massive deaths of D-Day
would be acceptable. But in a new world war, it would be possible and
acceptable again.

From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, all cultures
are more similar than different.

For me, more clinical evidence will be necessary.
Gazan arabs rabid violence flies in the face of basic survival. Where flight or fight is a choice, those who deliberately court inevitable death are not rational. Is this definite brain flaw part od generational theory?

Devorah wrote: > For me, more clinical evidence will be necessary. Gazan arabs
> rabid violence flies in the face of basic survival. Where flight
> or fight is a choice, those who deliberately court inevitable
> death are not rational. Is this definite brain flaw part od
> generational theory?

Sending onto the beaches of Normandy tens of thousands of soldiers who
were "deliberately courting inevitable death" because thousands of
them would be shot dead almost immediately, might be described by an
outsider looking in as "rabid violence that flies in the face of basic
survival." It all depends on your point of view.

This may be a brain flaw, but it's a brain flaw in every culture and
society. During a generational Crisis era, nationalism and xenophobia
become extreme, the value of an individual life approaches zero, while
the only thing that matters is the survival of the culture or society.
Like it or not, that's the way the world works.

John wrote:

Devorah wrote: > Yesterday's Gaza violence was a foregone conclusion. As a woman,
> I will categorically state that at any age I could not have been
> talked, pushed or carried into the front shield line. How obvious
> that all cultures are not created with abilities to be factually
> educated and to reason.

It's not a cultural thing. It's a generational thing -- specifically,
where the society is on the generational timeline. When you're
fighting an enemy in a generational Crisis era, there are many things
you would do without thinking that you wouldn't do in other eras.

What the Gazans are doing today is not dissimilar to what Americans
did on D-Day, June 6, 1944. Tens of thousands of soldiers were sent
to the beaches of Normandy, where they were shot down like fish in a
barrel. That was possible and acceptable in a generational Crisis era
at that point on the generational timeline. Since the end of WW II,
there has been no time when anything like the massive deaths of D-Day
would be acceptable. But in a new world war, it would be possible and
acceptable again.

From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, all cultures
are more similar than different.

The cultural differences cannot be ignored. America has gone through three crisis wars and has not in any of them used women and children as human shields. The Americans did other things that clearly mark these as crisis wars, but the use of human shields was completely absent. This is because it has been contrary to American culture.

Now that we should be in a crisis era, in another major war, I would expect another high-casualty assault akin to Gettysburg or D-day. But I do not expect the American army to use women and children as human shields. That is the type of behaviour found in crisis wars or other cultures (such as Muslim Arabs) but so far, not American.

Guest wrote: > The cultural differences cannot be ignored. America has gone
> through three crisis wars and has not in any of them used women
> and children as human shields. The Americans did other things
> that clearly mark these as crisis wars, but the use of human
> shields was completely absent. This is because it has been
> contrary to American culture.

> Now that we should be in a crisis era, in another major war, I
> would expect another high-casualty assault akin to Gettysburg or
> D-day. But I do not expect the American army to use women and
> children as human shields. That is the type of behaviour found in
> crisis wars or other cultures (such as Muslim Arabs) but so far,
> not American.

I can't think of any circumstance where we had the meaningful choice
to use human shields. So it's more about opportunity than culture.

The core behavior nearing the climax of a generational crisis war
is that the value of a human life goes to zero, and the only thing
that matters is the survival of the society and its way of life,
leading to genocide. There are many ways to exhibit this
behavior, such as Sherman's march to the sea in the Civil War,
the D-Day massacre in WW II, the firebombing of Dresden and
Tokyo in WW II, Japan's Kamikaze pilots in WW II, and the nuking
of Japanese cities in WW II.

There are so many idiotic discussions going today, it's hard to choose
the worst, but one of the most idiotic is that America should never
use torture because it violates our cultural values. How stupid do
you have to be to believe that? If we could save thousands of
American lives by torturing someone to get information about an
impending terror attack, of course we'd use torture. Cultural values
have absolutely nothing to do with torture, human shields, or anything
else.

In dire circumstances, people will resort to using women and children in wars. During the Haitian revolution (1791-1804), Haitian women would charge French trenches (which were dug in front of the French soldiers, like an empty moat) and throw baskets of sticks into the trench to fill it up. If a woman got wounded during the assault, she would throw herself into the trench and Haitian soldiers would then advance over the filled trench, running over the dead and dying bodies of their own women. There are other cases in history, some even present day, of people resorting to such tactics.

Yes, culture matters, but you can't expect all cultures to resort to certain behaviors in dire situations. If the situation warrants it, American women would sacrifice themselves. (The illegal migrants would loot their dead bodies.)

John wrote: I can't think of any circumstance where we had the meaningful choice
to use human shields. So it's more about opportunity than culture.

In the American Civil War, both sides could easily have rounded up women and children and held them among their troops during key battles. Other nations have done just that. Perhaps the Americans just didn't think of it -- but even that is a cultural issue.

Guest wrote:

John wrote: I can't think of any circumstance where we had the meaningful choice
to use human shields. So it's more about opportunity than culture.

In the American Civil War, both sides could easily have rounded up women and children and held them among their troops during key battles. Other nations have done just that. Perhaps the Americans just didn't think of it -- but even that is a cultural issue.

Neither side was facing complete oblivion in the American CW. It was a dispute among Americans. Haiti and Israel are about different races going at each other.