20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

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Re: 20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

by gerald » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:02 pm

gerald wrote:
guest wrote:
gerald wrote:
Sorry,

But, if you have studied some history, and yes history is a lot of BS, people like the spilling of blood.
Peaceful solution? --- Unlikely, How often was there a MAJOR change in government with out the spilling of blood?
People in power want to stay in power, no matter what.
NK generals have too much blood on their hands to revolt, but what about the colonels? Why is a palace coup so impossible?
Who knows? fiction is sometimes more logical then reality. Think not? just look around. An example,.Look at all the hype about the Louisiana flood, horrible, horrible worst ever !!! -- I do not want to diminish the pain, suffering and loss of those that experienced the flood, but the worst ever !!! Really??? How about the Ark Flood California Great Flood of 1862 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1862m --- Louisiana flood - just a rain storm, no big deal --- as a national forest ranger said, the problem with people it they want to act the way they think nature should be and not the way nature is. --- Nature does 'n give a Sh.t what you want. Nature IS.

cheers
Oh, and by the way, I was renovating a building in Chicago about 20 years a go and I needed a roof, but of course that did not happen because Chicago experienced TWO 100 year rain storms a week apart. and I could not get a roof. Nature does not give a sh+t.

Re: 20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

by gerald » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:52 pm

guest wrote:
gerald wrote:
guest wrote:Couldn't North Korea just collapse and war be avoided? Does there have to be a war? Isn't a peaceful solution possible?

What about a palace coup?
Sorry,

But, if you have studied some history, and yes history is a lot of BS, people like the spilling of blood.
Peaceful solution? --- Unlikely, How often was there a MAJOR change in government with out the spilling of blood?
People in power want to stay in power, no matter what.
NK generals have too much blood on their hands to revolt, but what about the colonels? Why is a palace coup so impossible?
Who knows? fiction is sometimes more logical then reality. Think not? just look around. An example,.Look at all the hype about the Louisiana flood, horrible, horrible worst ever !!! -- I do not want to diminish the pain, suffering and loss of those that experienced the flood, but the worst ever !!! Really??? How about the Ark Flood California Great Flood of 1862 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1862m --- Louisiana flood - just a rain storm, no big deal --- as a national forest ranger said, the problem with people it they want to act the way they think nature should be and not the way nature is. --- Nature does 'n give a Sh.t what you want. Nature IS.

cheers

Re: 20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

by guest » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:36 am

gerald wrote:
guest wrote:Couldn't North Korea just collapse and war be avoided? Does there have to be a war? Isn't a peaceful solution possible?

What about a palace coup?
Sorry,

But, if you have studied some history, and yes history is a lot of BS, people like the spilling of blood.
Peaceful solution? --- Unlikely, How often was there a MAJOR change in government with out the spilling of blood?
People in power want to stay in power, no matter what.
NK generals have too much blood on their hands to revolt, but what about the colonels? Why is a palace coup so impossible?

Re: 20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

by gerald » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:03 pm

guest wrote:Couldn't North Korea just collapse and war be avoided? Does there have to be a war? Isn't a peaceful solution possible?

What about a palace coup?
Sorry,

But, if you have studied some history, and yes history is a lot of BS, people like the spilling of blood.
Peaceful solution? --- Unlikely, How often was there a MAJOR change in government with out the spilling of blood?
People in power want to stay in power, no matter what.

Re: 20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

by guest » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:04 am

Couldn't North Korea just collapse and war be avoided? Does there have to be a war? Isn't a peaceful solution possible?

What about a palace coup?

Re: 20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

by MarvyGuy » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:31 pm

Venezuela is near the end of its Unraveling era
To Aerro and John many thanks for taking time to clarify!

Re: 20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

by Aerro » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:09 pm

Aerro wrote: the impeachment of President Carlos Perez Jimenez in 1993
Correction: I meant President Carlos Andres Perez who was force out of office for embezzlement.

Re: 20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

by Aerro » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:43 pm

MarvyGuy wrote: I suppose we might postulate that Venezuela is in a similar situation (systematic collapse, starvation, inflation)?
Venezuela is near the end of its Unraveling era. The last Crisis era ended in 1958 with the overthrow of the Marco Perez Jimenez dictatorship and the signing of the Pact of Punto Fijo which ensured 2 party rule for decades. Its been 58 years since then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... 2%80%9358)

The last years of Venezuela's Awakening era was filled with riots and political chaos and included events such as the Caracazo riots in 1989, 2 coup attempts (including one by Chavez) in 1992, the impeachment of President Carlos Perez Jimenez in 1993, and the election of Hugo Chavez in 1998 which ended 2 party rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracazo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Vene ... t_attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_pr ... P%C3%A9rez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela ... tion,_1998

Re: 20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

by John » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:29 pm

guest wrote: > Could the potential war between the Koreas be avoided? SK doesn't
> want a war and NK leaders just want to survive. Couldn't a deal be
> reached? Do you think a war could break out soon or in the distant
> future?
The reason that a deal can't be reached is because the South is dozens
of times more better off than the North, with more personal freedom,
more political freedom, more food, more leisure, and so forth. Any
criticism of Kim Jong-un from the South or from the US or UN causes
him to completely freak out and threaten to rain fire down on the
world. Furthermore, as I've been describing, he's apparently
personally unstable, as he's put on 100 pounds of weight and he
drinks. He could launch an attack on someone at any time. So no path
exists for a peaceful deal.

Furthermore, Korea is right in the middle of Japan, China, Taiwan,
Philippines, the South China Sea. Any of these could explode into war
any day.

As for time frame, it could begin tomorrow, next week, next month,
next year, or five years from now. All of the countries in the region
are becoming increasingly xenophobic, increasingly nationalistic,
increasing belligerent, and increasingly militaristic.

Just to take one example: There is a G20 Leaders Summit to be held in
Hangzhou on September 4-5. There have been articles in Chinese media
urging the Chinese military to invade and annex the Philippines'
Scarborough Shoal as soon as the G20 summit ends. Maybe that's hot
air, maybe not. But it's certainly true that China is still
absolutely infuriated by being humiliated by the Philippines in the UN
tribunal in the Hague, and has already been stepping up its
militarization of its artificial islands in the SCS, and may be
looking for a way to get even with the Philippines for that Tribunal
victory.

Re: 20-Aug-16 World View -- Zimbabwe launching a Soviet style command agriculture program

by guest » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:13 am

Could the potential war between the Koreas be avoided? SK doesn't want a war and NK leaders just want to survive. Couldn't a deal be reached? Do you think a war could break out soon or in the distant future?

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