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Re: Personal Attacks

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Bob Butler wrote:
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As FullMoon pointed out just before this, the site is increasingly Bob and CoolBreeze posts, and both are off on extremes. Bob seems to live here now.
If people refrained from the constant personal attack posts such as the above, it would be a start. I don't think that is the intended purpose of this thread, but if you do launch an attack expect an answer.
Every post of yours is a personal attack on half the country.
Posts about GD, S&H, Trump, Gaza, the southern border, etc... would be quite distinct from those malignant fellow posters. I have difficulty believing even you would be unable to distinguish between them. I am also doubtful that John welcomes such posts to his thread, and obviously Higgenbotham agrees. I just wish he would create a place for such garbage and not pollute serious threads.

From my perspective, personal attack posts often arrive when it is obvious that the poster has lost a more serious exchange. God forbid you admit you have lost. Therefore you attack the person who won. While such posts are intended to attack, they are thus more an admission of failure. They deserve a mild chuckle.

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Re: Common Ground?

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FullMoon wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:49 am
Cool Breeze wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:19 pm
Guest HHH wrote:
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10% inflation? NO WAY.

Bob only believes leftist government statistics.
He lives by lies.

If he knew communists, he would listen to Alexander Solzhenitsyn and he would see that he supports the second movement of communism, but this time, in the USA. It's not a wonder that Alexander was hated after his Harvard commencement address, where he exposed the madness of communism - but it had come already to the US in the 1960s and it grasped Bish's soul and since that time, he has spread the lies of the Protocols of the Elders, the sick media and porn industry, and the banking cartel used to debase all the common people while they debased the money and stole the jobs for slave labor overseas. Yes, that included "Republicans" here and there.

He has no clue about any of it.
You both live by lies and haven't a clue. But in this case you are more correct than the other.
The Forum is getting sabotaged into a social justice warrior battle ground again. The end is nigh and the time for petty squabbling is past. Let's move this crap to another thread so that people will want to post interesting things. I might try.
Wrong. How could we both be anything similar? I stand for the exact opposite of Bish, and you should know that, even though you don't like that I get a lot right. Your dislike of me has only to do with the inadequacies of the forum and its overall hubris. There is no SJW here BUT Bish.

I've always been about telling the truth, or at least being a contrary opinion. Look at what's happened since I turned up?

I told you about the covid jabs, and was right. Radio silence here.
I told you inflation was here to stay, and it is. Still doing that victory lap. I even told everyone year by year exactly what would happen, which is that you destroy the economy by inflating, which is the point of central bank activity, and then you crush the middle class, which will transiently cause deflationary forces.
As a result, BTC keeps its value full steam ahead, and all of you oldies who don't get it and won't open up their brains will miss out on that as well.
Russia won and the communists currently run our congress, our media, and propagandize everyone.

What haven't I been right about? Some monthly price prediction? OK, lol

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Re: Common Ground?

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Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:03 am
FullMoon wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:49 am
Cool Breeze wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:19 pm


He lives by lies.

If he knew communists, he would listen to Alexander Solzhenitsyn and he would see that he supports the second movement of communism, but this time, in the USA. It's not a wonder that Alexander was hated after his Harvard commencement address, where he exposed the madness of communism - but it had come already to the US in the 1960s and it grasped Bish's soul and since that time, he has spread the lies of the Protocols of the Elders, the sick media and porn industry, and the banking cartel used to debase all the common people while they debased the money and stole the jobs for slave labor overseas. Yes, that included "Republicans" here and there.

He has no clue about any of it.
You both live by lies and haven't a clue. But in this case you are more correct than the other.
The Forum is getting sabotaged into a social justice warrior battle ground again. The end is nigh and the time for petty squabbling is past. Let's move this crap to another thread so that people will want to post interesting things. I might try.
The SJW here is BB.
That's how clueless these guys are. The guests now know everything I have been stating is accurate.

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Re: Polyticks: Bob Butler's Perspective

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FullMoon wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:02 pm
The SJW here is BB
We have an old hardcore Leftie and young hardcore Rightie. Leftie pretty much only focuses on domestic while Rightie at least understands the bigger picture somewhat. But really they're both extremists and don't provide much to this forum but instead cause conflict and inflame emotions. I think we get enough of that crap now as is now in this peak crisis period. Neither of them recognize clearly reality.
You are falling for the old trick of neutrality, acting like your lack of a real stance on anything is meaningful. News flash, FullMoon --- it isn't.

You can't mention one thing I don't see clearly. You just like to equate stupid people (Bish) with those you can't match in terms of predictions.

By the way, all you have to do is read what the global elites TELL US the plans are and you don't even need John's guesses, most of which have turned out to be incorrect, sadly.

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Insurrection

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No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
The 14th Amendment Section 3 is due to be reviewed by the Supreme Court, oral arguments scheduled for February 8. Is Trump eligible to hold US Office? The friends of the court briefs recently went in. J. Michael Luttig made a weird point in one. The firing on Fort Summer which began the Civil War was an insurrection involving only one state. Trump went after several. Trump therefore is a worse insurrectionist than Beauregard?

Through most of my time in work, I wore a US Civil War replica belt buckle. It just seemed the thing to do. I stumbled on it recently, and figured that polishing it up now seems to be the thing to do.

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I do solely swear...

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There is a weird sort of recusal possibility with the 14th Amendment lawsuit. Justice Roberts was the one who swore Trump with the presidential oath, to honor the Constitution. That is one of the criteria of the !4th. It seems silly, but is that grounds for Roberts to recuse himself? I mean, I don't think it controversial that Trump took the presidential oath?

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Re: Polyticks: Bob Butler's Perspective

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:10 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:02 pm
The SJW here is BB
We have an old hardcore Leftie and young hardcore Rightie. Leftie pretty much only focuses on domestic while Rightie at least understands the bigger picture somewhat. But really they're both extremists and don't provide much to this forum but instead cause conflict and inflame emotions. I think we get enough of that crap now as is now in this peak crisis period. Neither of them recognize clearly reality.
You are falling for the old trick of neutrality, acting like your lack of a real stance on anything is meaningful. News flash, FullMoon --- it isn't.

You can't mention one thing I don't see clearly. You just like to equate stupid people (Bish) with those you can't match in terms of predictions.

By the way, all you have to do is read what the global elites TELL US the plans are and you don't even need John's guesses, most of which have turned out to be incorrect, sadly.
The center-right is a distraction. They only pretend to do anything or care about the country.

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More than Distraction

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El Jefe wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:10 am
The center-right is a distraction. They only pretend to do anything or care about the country.
More than a distraction, alas. Since the Obama administration, the Right have tried to prevent any kitchen table issues from being resolved, which means nothing gets resolved. The latest example was the bipartisan attempt at a southern border resolution, and Trump's killing it to prevent Biden getting any credit. He would rather take the blame for no progress than see the problem addressed.

How much help have they been at convicting insurrectionists? Impeachment investigations with no evidence and nothing like 2/3rd of the Senate? Getting health care that the majority of the women want? Saving lives from spree killers? I really doubt they will hang on to the House.

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A complex history...

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In 1945, the British Veterans of WW2 voted out Winston Churchill and voted in Clement Attlee. PM Attlee proceeded to implement the Welfare State, and effectively set Great Britain on the course it has been on ever since. BTW, Attlee is considered the one of the greatest British PMs by British academics.
The British Empire was about exploiting other peoples. We kicked them out in the American Revolution for good reason. In China they wanted to sell opium to the people. In India and other places they would colonize. In the Middle East they and others chased control of the oil. But there’re was a flip side, seemingly. Many of the people once exploited are now are welcomed back to the mother country. At best, these include those most assimilated with western culture, those that will fit best. At worst, they are the sort of people that bigots form a poor opinion of, not to mention anyone from that culture.

The United States is little different. We enslaved the blacks, stole native lands, imported asian cheap labor but not their women, denied Irish jobs, accepted refugees of the European troubles as cheap labor, etc…. Sure, it was proper to wage the American Revolution to stop the exploitation of noble privilege and colonial imperialism, but we were willing to exploit other races just as much as the British Empire.

There is quite some time between the old exploitation and any new acceptance of those people once exploited. The feeling that one owes the exploited culture something in return is hardly universal. It just seems the history is complex. We forget the times that we were doing the exploiting, when Marx was correct, when the local people needed revolution to stop it. We forget that once Taiwan represented the West exploiting the locals. We forget that some of Mao’s whacko theories that hurt his people so much were well meant. We forget that the Catholic subpopulation of Vietnam was used by the French to exploit the Buddhist majority. We forget that after World War II the US forgave lend lease loans if the European colonists opened their colonial ports to all (our) trade, thus killing much of colonial imperialism.

History is much more complex than many want to remember.

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Re: Polyticks: Bob Butler's Perspective

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El Jefe wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:10 am
Cool Breeze wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:10 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:02 pm

We have an old hardcore Leftie and young hardcore Rightie. Leftie pretty much only focuses on domestic while Rightie at least understands the bigger picture somewhat. But really they're both extremists and don't provide much to this forum but instead cause conflict and inflame emotions. I think we get enough of that crap now as is now in this peak crisis period. Neither of them recognize clearly reality.
You are falling for the old trick of neutrality, acting like your lack of a real stance on anything is meaningful. News flash, FullMoon --- it isn't.

You can't mention one thing I don't see clearly. You just like to equate stupid people (Bish) with those you can't match in terms of predictions.

By the way, all you have to do is read what the global elites TELL US the plans are and you don't even need John's guesses, most of which have turned out to be incorrect, sadly.
The center-right is a distraction. They only pretend to do anything or care about the country.
Of course. Most people, including Con, Inc, effectively are egalitarians which means they aren't serious people and they are in fact, left leaning.

The problem is that until the money runs out, "conservatives" will still be sending their kids to university indoctrination camps and acting like telling their daughters that they can "do anything" isn't sabotaging any hope of a family they might have.

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