Polyticks: Bob Butler's Perspective

[FullMoon]

The SJW here is BB

We have an old hardcore Leftie and young hardcore Rightie. Leftie pretty much only focuses on domestic while Rightie at least understands the bigger picture somewhat. But really they're both extremists and don't provide much to this forum but instead cause conflict and inflame emotions. I think we get enough of that crap now as is now in this peak crisis period. Neither of them recognize clearly reality.

[Bob Butler]

There won't be any type of civil war although your government is trying to instigate one against its citizens.

I am inclined to believe there will me no civil war. The majority care more about democracy than imposing their religious beliefs on others or oppressing minorities. It doesn't seem perfectly clear, though.

Well, so much for expectations. From what I hear the governor of Texas has decided to disregard part of the Constitution. The federal government is supposed to handle international borders, the states local. However, Governor Abbot is interfering with federal attempts to remove razor wire traps, to kill minority children. He is using the Texas national guard to enforce it. According to one report, he has called on other red state governors to send units of their national guard to support his.

So far the red states and the feds have not been exchanging fire. It is more a propaganda war than a real one. Worth watching.

[Bob Butler]

I have long understood the Devil as a manifestation of evil rather than lies. Still, how many lies were told? How many mythic stories were created featuring the devil lying? I can think of one where he tempted Jesus, but as he was supposed to be a powerful being, could his fantastic offers be in his power to grant? Other lies?

Now compare him to the real world father of lies. We have the Big Lie, the fake electors, the EJ Carol defamation, the 60 false assertions of voter fraud. If you throw in the Fox and Giuliani court cases there is lots more.

As a result the whole conservative worldview is based on lies.

How am I supposed to take the association with the father of lies seriously? We have a site full of liars crying liar, somehow remaining ignorant of how many of the lies have been discredited.

Anyway, you might look for a vaguely relevant insult.

[Guest]

We have a site full of liars crying liar, somehow remaining ignorant of how many of the lies have been discredited.

Are you aware the following are lies?

Trump said neo-nazis are fine people.

Trump said to drink bleach for covid.

Trump overfed koi fish in Japan.

[Bob Butler]

We have a site full of liars crying liar, somehow remaining ignorant of how many of the lies have been discredited.

Are you aware the following are lies?

Trump said neo-nazis are fine people.

Trump said to drink bleach for covid.

Trump overfed koi fish in Japan.

The first I was aware of. He thought both those who wanted to memorialize Robert E Lee and those who wished to remove his statue were fine people, but an extra issue confused things.

He did not specify a type of disinfectant that one might explore for injection. It was a strange layman's conjecture, not anything seriously delved into.

I had not been aware of the koi indecent, but apparently both Trump and the prime minister of Japan were each given a whole box of fish food, and they each dumped the whole box, the prime minister first. The press reports I found don't go into details on the meal size, but I would hope the caretakers would give an appropriate serving.

I could see in these incidents a tendency for the main stream media to make Trump look bad. Given how much Trump made EJ Carroll look bad, it's not like the tendency isn't part of the game.

[Bob Butler]

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I used to check out this message forum now and then to get solid news and analysis on current geopolitical events from John and a few others.

Bob Butler and his insane, ridiculous posts have made the forum unreadable.

Sadly, I must agree. I started frequenting this site about 10 years ago, because, like many visitors, I saw something unique and genuine, primarily in John's daily summations of world news. Other contributors, I'll mention Navigator and Higgie, but there have been many others, have made very substantial contributions to the truly learned dialogue here over the years. FWIW, I have contributed several thousand dollars over the last few years to support this site, because I perceived it as delivering great value. With John's declining vigor, and the aforesaid individual's persistence in trolling and filling the forum with incomprehensible nonsense, I don't think it delivers great value any more. God bless you John and Navi and Higgie (and others, you know who you are), you and we have fought the good fight, but things are deteriorating. Truly, the left destroys everything it touches.

As FullMoon pointed out just before this, the site is increasingly Bob and CoolBreeze posts, and both are off on extremes. Bob seems to live here now.

If people refrained from the constant personal attack posts such as the above, it would be a start. I don't think that is the intended purpose of this thread, but if you do launch an attack expect an answer.

[Navigator]

I used to check out this message forum now and then to get solid news and analysis on current geopolitical events from John and a few others.

Bob Butler and his insane, ridiculous posts have made the forum unreadable.

Sadly, I must agree. I started frequenting this site about 10 years ago, because, like many visitors, I saw something unique and genuine, primarily in John's daily summations of world news. Other contributors, I'll mention Navigator and Higgie, but there have been many others, have made very substantial contributions to the truly learned dialogue here over the years. FWIW, I have contributed several thousand dollars over the last few years to support this site, because I perceived it as delivering great value. With John's declining vigor, and the aforesaid individual's persistence in trolling and filling the forum with incomprehensible nonsense, I don't think it delivers great value any more. God bless you John and Navi and Higgie (and others, you know who you are), you and we have fought the good fight, but things are deteriorating. Truly, the left destroys everything it touches.

As FullMoon pointed out just before this, the site is increasingly Bob and CoolBreeze posts, and both are off on extremes. Bob seems to live here now. CoolBreeze probably has to work somewhere, so he isn't posting quite as often. I can't post as much as I used to, but I should try and do more.

The point FullMoon was making, I think (don't want to put words in his mouth), is that the extremes are both wrong. I personally am neither a liberal anti-theist, nor an anti-semite Putin lover. As I have posted before, I do not support Trump or Biden. I am with the 70% of the US electorate that wishes neither were on the ballot for President.

I believe that everything is in place for the next great disaster. It is not a matter of IF, but WHEN. And that WHEN is increasingly close. It could happen tomorrow or it could hold off for a year or two, but I seriously doubt it will be that long.

At this point, the best way to get back to the original dialog on this board is to click on your name at the top right, go to the User Control Panel, then "Manage Friends and Foes" and set BB and CB as Foes. That way you don't have to read their posts, and you can get at the core conversation. If you want to look at their posts, you still can, but you won't be forced to anymore.

BTW, Bob has his own site, www.polyticks.com. You can always look there, though he doesn't seem to allow comments for some reason.

Guests may not have this option, so maybe it will give them an incentive to register (you obviously don't have to use your real name, so you should register).

[Bob Butler]

BTW, Bob has his own site, www.polyticks.com. You can always look there, though he doesn't seem to allow comments for some reason.

In the 1990s time frame, polyticks was a set of web pages which I stoped developing when my favorite web editor was discontinued. It is a dated and stagnant relic of my past, interesting only if you are interested. You can tell that at the time I didn't care much for politicians.

Has anyone considered a thread for personal attacks? The moderator can stuff any post there criticizing another poster without any references to GD, S&H, Trump, Gaza, the southern border, etc... It might keep this thread and others much cleaner.

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Sadly, I must agree. I started frequenting this site about 10 years ago, because, like many visitors, I saw something unique and genuine, primarily in John's daily summations of world news. Other contributors, I'll mention Navigator and Higgie, but there have been many others, have made very substantial contributions to the truly learned dialogue here over the years. FWIW, I have contributed several thousand dollars over the last few years to support this site, because I perceived it as delivering great value. With John's declining vigor, and the aforesaid individual's persistence in trolling and filling the forum with incomprehensible nonsense, I don't think it delivers great value any more. God bless you John and Navi and Higgie (and others, you know who you are), you and we have fought the good fight, but things are deteriorating. Truly, the left destroys everything it touches.

As FullMoon pointed out just before this, the site is increasingly Bob and CoolBreeze posts, and both are off on extremes. Bob seems to live here now.

If people refrained from the constant personal attack posts such as the above, it would be a start. I don't think that is the intended purpose of this thread, but if you do launch an attack expect an answer.

Every post of yours is a personal attack on half the country.

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As FullMoon pointed out just before this, the site is increasingly Bob and CoolBreeze posts, and both are off on extremes. Bob seems to live here now.

If people refrained from the constant personal attack posts such as the above, it would be a start. I don't think that is the intended purpose of this thread, but if you do launch an attack expect an answer.

Every post of yours is a personal attack on half the country.

And BB only pretends otherwise.