Generation-X culture vs Boomer culture

[Trevor]

McCain might have done some of it, but not nearly to the extent that Obama's done and continuing to do. Not only that, but he would not have the media supporting him, meaning that he could get away with far less.

I just hope we don't have a version of Watergate, which wouldn't surprise me too much. Considering we're in a crisis era, it would likely be far more destructive that it was 40 years.

[Marc]

McCain might have done some of it, but not nearly to the extent that Obama's done and continuing to do. Not only that, but he would not have the media supporting him, meaning that he could get away with far less.

I just hope we don't have a version of Watergate, which wouldn't surprise me too much. Considering we're in a crisis era, it would likely be far more destructive that it was 40 years.

Okay, I can go along with that first paragraph above — as I said before of Obama, "an honors graduate of the Chicago School of Politics"

Your Watergate thoughts are most interesting, though: just curious, how do you (or anyone else here) potentially see "a version of Watergate" possibly playing out in the next few years?

Thanks for the good insights. —Best regards, Marc

[Trevor]

Yep, he's just an average person, coming from a city where the average person is a crook.

As for a watergate equivalent, it would have to be something big enough that even the media couldn't ignore. I've heard speculation about the Fast and Furious program, but there's no real evidence that he ordered anything of the sort. However, say he did, or there was something else big. What could it do to the country in a crisis era?

[Marc]

Yep, he's just an average person, coming from a city where the average person is a crook.

As for a watergate equivalent, it would have to be something big enough that even the media couldn't ignore. I've heard speculation about the Fast and Furious program, but there's no real evidence that he ordered anything of the sort. However, say he did, or there was something else big. What could it do to the country in a crisis era?

I'll respectfully offer my Gen-X version of the first sentence above: Yep, he's a smart cat (albeit one who does make some mistakes), coming from a city where there's a grand tradition of being a crook to politically win the game

I think that if a "Watergate event" broke out in the next few years (and I think you have a good parameter of what it would need to be: something of a nature that the friendly media simply couldn't ignore), the most intense immediate likely outcome, I feel, would be Congressional gridlock that's even much worse than the near-paralysis we know today. Unless the "Watergate event" were utterly heinous, it would be quite difficult, I would think, to remove the President from the White House. (Btw, I'm personally not an Obama-hater, even though I acknowledge, again, that he's an honors graduate of the Chicago School of Politics. )

At any rate, we have to admit that what's happening in the world today certainly makes for plenty of grist to talk about in regards to both politics and generational theory Thanks again! —Best regards, Marc

[Trevor]

Course, considering the mutual hatreds, the Republicans would probably try to do so. They impeached Clinton for less than that. Unlike Nixon, Obama would never resign. I was referring to more of the political upheaval. I shudder to picture what would happen.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever mentioned Generational Dynamics to anyone you know?

[Marc]

Course, considering the mutual hatreds, the Republicans would probably try to do so. They impeached Clinton for less than that. Unlike Nixon, Obama would never resign. I was referring to more of the political upheaval. I shudder to picture what would happen.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever mentioned Generational Dynamics to anyone you know?

In regards to the first paragraph above, are you referring to some sort of severe civil unrest taking place in America, or simply unspeakable levels of political/social incivility? Just curious....

As far as my mentioning Generational Dynamics to others goes, I mean, God, no...do you want others to think I'm a GEEK or something!? Actually, seriously, I have mentioned generational theory to one friend (to whom I even gave the book The Fourth Turning to), and have mentioned it slightly to family members. I haven't mentioned it to others due to not knowing if they'd be all that interested in it or not, and not wanting to come off as, well, an irritating geek to them....

Thanks again for the insights! —Best regards, Marc

[Trevor]

Yeah, I'm referring to civil unrest in the United States.

I've actually mentioned it to numerous people, in addition to Generational Dynamics. Generally, I get blown off and told that this is a load of crap, I'm too young to understand how the world really works, and so on. Well, I guess we're going to find out soon enough.

[Trevor]

Yeah, I'm referring to civil unrest in the United States.

I've actually mentioned it to numerous people, in addition to Generational Dynamics. Generally, I get blown off and told that this is a load of crap, I'm too young to understand how the world really works, and so on. Well, I guess we're going to find out soon enough.

As for appearing like a geek, well... I already appear that way, so it doesn't do much in that respect.

[Marc]

Yeah, I'm referring to civil unrest in the United States.

I've actually mentioned it to numerous people, in addition to Generational Dynamics. Generally, I get blown off and told that this is a load of crap, I'm too young to understand how the world really works, and so on. Well, I guess we're going to find out soon enough.

As for appearing like a geek, well... I already appear that way, so it doesn't do much in that respect.

With the traditions in America of "holding pat in tough times," it is hard to imagine serious civil unrest in the United States, beyond the kind it experienced in, say, a number of urban riots in decades past (if you don't count the American Civil War). But, despite many Americans likely to still be blessed a few years down the road with decent jobs, new iGadgets, and still plenty of swagger in their demeanor, I could see — as the current Crisis deepens — if you were to couple this Crisis with a hypothetical serious effort to impeach/remove Obama, how we could see civil unrest that could significantly transcend what we've seen in America so far. If it happened, it by itself may qualify as the American Crisis Climax, or at least the start of it.

(And, in regards to the last sentence of yours above, I say: GEEK PRIDE....Geeks make the world go 'round the best ) —Best regards/Cheers, Marc

[Trevor]

Yeah, I don't see a civil war, but I could see the country torn to pieces, perhaps threats of succession. I'm sure the political game of "Who's the biggest idiot" will continue, probably get worse before this is over.

I'm not a geek in the traditional sense; I'm not real skilled with computers. I just have various obsessions and Generational Dynamics and generational theory is becoming one of them.