5-Mar-13 WV-China defends its booming military spending

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5-Mar-13 WV-China defends its booming military spending

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5-Mar-13 World View -- China defends its booming military spending as promoting global peace

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30 million locusts descend on Egypt in 'Biblical' plague
China defends its booming military spending as promoting global peace
China's anti-ship missile a game-changer, despite Western disbelief


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Re: 5-Mar-13 WV-China defends its booming military spending

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[BEGIN QUOTE]"As such a big country, China's inability to ensure
its own security would not be good news for the world. Our
strengthening of our defence is to defend ourselves, to defend
security and peace, and not to threaten other
countries."[END QUOTE]
Unfortunately for China its "peaceful rise" ruse has been shown to be baloney when it tipped its hat in 2008 until now becoming aggressive when it thought the USA was a defeated power and everyone would rollover and die. What China wants is vassel states, its already tipped its hand, so no going back now to the "peaceful rise" defence. Anti-China coalitions have already formed in APAC.
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solomani wrote:

[BEGIN QUOTE]"As such a big country, China's inability to ensure
its own security would not be good news for the world. Our
strengthening of our defence is to defend ourselves, to defend
security and peace, and not to threaten other
countries."[END QUOTE]
Unfortunately for China its "peaceful rise" ruse has been shown to be baloney when it tipped its hat in 2008 until now becoming aggressive when it thought the USA was a defeated power and everyone would rollover and die. What China wants is vassel states, its already tipped its hand, so no going back now to the "peaceful rise" defence. Anti-China coalitions have already formed in APAC.
China just wants to defend itself.

Of course, China keeps re-defining "itself", to include parts of other countries. China is now forced to go to war to protect those "new parts" of China.
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Re: 5-Mar-13 WV-China defends its booming military spending

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I think the 2013 increase is going to be close to 11 percent, or at least that's what I've read. I'd bet on their real military spending being at least 50 percent higher. Not only that, but they don't have to worry about actually paying their soldiers as we do.

As for the DF-21D, we won't know for sure how effective it is until it's used on us, but at a minimum, we should be concerned about it, and not completely dismiss the threat. Just a few of them getting through would kill hundreds, maybe thousands.
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Trevor wrote:
As for the DF-21D, we won't know for sure how effective it is until it's used on us, but at a minimum, we should be concerned about it, and not completely dismiss the threat. Just a few of them getting through would kill hundreds, maybe thousands.
A DF-21D war head would not only have to "get through" a defensive Anti Ballistic Missile system, but it would also have to have an extremely accurate terminal guidance system to actually hit a very fast moving and maneuvering ship.

The U.S. Military appears to be more concerned with the threat the DF-21D poses to stationary capital ships tied to a wharf, than they are with the threat of a ballistic missile attack on a very fast moving air craft carrier on the high seas, where such a ship is capable of extended high speed travel in any direction, or an attack on other ships capable of short periods of very fast speed in any direction. The theory here is that the ship would not be where the ballistic missile was launched toward by the time 15 to thirty minutes of ballistic ascent had been completed.

This appears to be what is behind the establishment of docking facilities at such places as North Western Australia, where payload of a ballistic missile is very limited, and the delay between launch and terminal descent of a ballistic missile launched from main land China is greater. All ballistic missiles have to travel up, high into outer space before dropping on their target and that takes time.

Both the DF-21D terminal guidance systems that China is planning on being able to make the DF-21D war head capable of hitting fast moving ships, and the launch detection and ballistic trajectory sensors that the U.S. is counting on to avoid ballistic missiles, are subject to destruction and jamming ( both optical jamming and other electromagnetic jamming ). It is important to note that all such sensors can be located on platforms other than in space. Drones, airplanes and ships may all support such sensors.

Then there is also the likely U.S. military planning assumption, based on a belief system held by many politicians in the west, that China would never use a very small, very light weight, tactical therm-o-nuclear war head to attack U.S. ships in port in a place like Australia or Hawaii, nor on the high seas.

Generally speaking, the best defense is a strong offense, so based on that, and given China is modernizing and testing their offensive weapons, and the United States has retired from active service it's most modern offensive systems ( such as the air launched advanced cruise missile and the ground launched advanced cruise missile ). It would appear that China, not the United States, is doing what is needed to win wars.

Russia, by contrast, has retained a massive inventory of tactical nuclear war heads which would likely deter China from using tactical nuclear weapons on Russian military forces.
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