14-Mar-13 World View -- Xi Jinping envisions 'China's Dream'

[John]

14-Mar-13 World View -- Xi Jinping envisions 'China's Dream' - world economic and military domination

Terrorists disguised as cricketers kill 5 Indian soldiers in Kashmir

** 14-Mar-13 World View -- Xi Jinping envisions 'China's Dream' - world economic and military domination
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi ... 14#e130314



Contents:
Saudi Arabia is running out of swordsmen to behead people
Terrorists disguised as cricketers kill 5 Indian soldiers in Kashmir
Xi Jinping envisions 'China's Dream' - world economic and military domination


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Saudi Arabia, beheadings, India, Pakistan,
Kashmir, Lashkar-e-Toiba, LeT, Hizbul Mujahideen,
China Dream, Xi Jinping, China

[tx2]

Dear John,

As civillian, we will never know in a timely bases what President Xi and Obama do behind the door. Some times what we see on the surface is contrarian to what they actually do.

On the other hand, My feeling is that like most of the other countries around the world, China really want to establish a long term partner relationship with the United States and other western countries. For many reasons, no matter what China does (of course every country has its bottom line) year after year, United States seem not willing to get more closer, thinking China is a future threat. and years ago, more troops, aircrafts were sent to west pacific area. This surely angries chinese. Still, It's hard to think China will launch a war against United States. During the cold war, The Soviet Union has comparable weapons again US, but no direct war happened simply because two countries were too large to fight, it would be devastating. Why can't we apply the same theory to US and China? President Xi and Obama didn't fight in world war II, but they learned how brutal it was. You always mentioned people who had war experience understand how brutal the war is, but why once the war started, it can last for so long, and why after wwII, United State troops continue fight in Korea, Vietnam, middle east?

I understand the rising intensity. I also don't think what Xi says is a big deal. Deng Xiao Ping and Mao zedong, as WWII survivors, also had time talk extremely tough. Xi is the commander of PLA, this is the way it is.

Sincerely,
tx

[Reality Check]

Dear John,

As civillian, we will never know in a timely bases what President Xi and Obama do behind the door. Some times what we see on the surface is contrarian to what they actually do.

On the other hand, My feeling is that like most of the other countries around the world, China really want to establish a long term partner relationship with the United States and other western countries. For many reasons, no matter what China does (of course every country has its bottom line) year after year, United States seem not willing to get more closer, thinking China is a future threat. and years ago, more troops, aircrafts were sent to west pacific area. This surely angries chinese. Still, It's hard to think China will launch a war against United States. During the cold war, The Soviet Union has comparable weapons again US, but no direct war happened simply because two countries were too large to fight, it would be devastating. Why can't we apply the same theory to US and China? President Xi and Obama didn't fight in world war II, but they learned how brutal it was. You always mentioned people who had war experience understand how brutal the war is, but why once the war started, it can last for so long, and why after wwII, United State troops continue fight in Korea, Vietnam, middle east?

I understand the rising intensity. I also don't think what Xi says is a big deal. Deng Xiao Ping and Mao zedong, as WWII survivors, also had time talk extremely tough. Xi is the commander of PLA, this is the way it is.

Sincerely,
tx

Obama does not believe a nuclear attack against the United States could ever happen, nor does he believe another world war could occur when the smartest man in the World is President of the United States.

China appears to be using North Korea as a stalking horse to see if the U.S. will cut and run, ignore a threat until it is too late,

[tx2]

http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=9918

I found it interesting.

Sincerely,
Tx

[John]

http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=9918

I found it interesting.

It's an interesting article, but I would take issue with two
points.

First, it says that a war between China and Japan "remains implausible
at the moment." Actually, it's quite plausible, and could occur
tomorrow or any time.

Second, the article puts the entire blame for regional tension on the
Japanese. It may well be true that Japan's failure to properly
apologize for WW II is one of the reasons for tension in the region,
but it's hardly the major reason. Vietnam and the Philippines were
also victims of Japanese aggression, and yet the Chinese are being
just as militarily belligerent with them, as well as with India.
Furthermore, the United States fought for China against the Japanese
in WW II, and yet the Chinese are spending massive amounts of money on
the military in preparation for a war with the United States.

If Japan were the only country with whom China was being militarily
belligerent, then I might agree with the article. But China is
militarily threatening numerous countries, and demanding land that has
historically belonged to other countries, and is also refusing United
Nations mediation. So China's claims have almost no credibility with
me.

[tx2]

Dear John,
Thank you for your reply, I really appreciate it.

1) China wants to be a power house in the world not only because China used to be the most developed country in the world for a long time but also because all the invasions, humiliating treaties signed after major military defeats since the Opium War during the Qing dynasty with western countries led by GB, France, Russia and Japan. Treaty of Nanking which was the first one (GB), Treaty of Aigun (Russia), Treaty of Tientsin, Convention of Peking, Treaty of Maguan (Japan), Boxer Protocol, Twenty-One Demands are the notable ones. Those are enormous losses in terms of wealth and territory. The old Summer Palace (called Yuan ming Yuan in Chinese) which was known for its extensive collection of garden and building architectures and other works of art, was burned by GB and French. I don't think anybody can find an example other than China that's being invaded (or raped) by such amount of countries, big and small. So psychologically, Chinese are sensitive, a hard way is learned that if you fall behind, you will be beaten.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuanmingyuan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Nanjing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unequal_treaty

2) China doesn't feel sense of security right now and I don't believe anybody will if you were Chinese and live in mainland China. Look at the map and you will find why. Here I want to emphasize on India and other south countries. the relationship between China and India is not comparable with the relationship between US and Canada. the population, the religion, the history, the economic status and so on. We often proud of long history, but this can also be a heavy burden for the people who live nowaday on the soil. the history of US and Canada is relatively short, people share the same ideology and US is so dominant on every aspect. In terms of other southern countries, I need to dig more, but I know the Chinese Communist Party wants royalty. CCP doesn't like other countries surrounded that's being supported by CCP before betray him. One outstanding example is what Vietnam did after Vietnam war. So Vietnam has a history of stepping on two boats.

3) China wants south China sea is because of the shipping lanes, crude oil from middle east are through there. This is no strange considering the growing size of the economy. It's a life line, live or die. One thing I'd like to mention is that when I was in the elementary school in China during 70's before the economic boom, those islands in south China Sea belong to China was already written in the textbook. So it's not like China wants it overnight.

Overall, history is a burden and China is doing it's part. You will get beaten if you fall behind. Hard lesson learned from Western Countries. Definitely, while increasing its power, CCP also need to find a better way to deal with other countries. My wife always says, you earn respect. On the other hand, The United States, need to find a better way to make Chinese feel more secure. But for China, a more democratic system will earn more respect and flexibility.

I apologize for any improper words I used that already offended you. I was not very calm during my previous messages. You website did encourage me do more research. Sorry for the long post, I believe it will get shorter with improving of my writing skill.

Sincerely,
tx

[gerald]

Dear John,
Thank you for your reply, I really appreciate it.

1) China wants to be a power house in the world not only because China used to be the most developed country in the world for a long time but also because all the invasions, humiliating treaties signed after major military defeats since the Opium War during the Qing dynasty with western countries led by GB, France, Russia and Japan. Treaty of Nanking which was the first one (GB), Treaty of Aigun (Russia), Treaty of Tientsin, Convention of Peking, Treaty of Maguan (Japan), Boxer Protocol, Twenty-One Demands are the notable ones. Those are enormous losses in terms of wealth and territory. The old Summer Palace (called Yuan ming Yuan in Chinese) which was known for its extensive collection of garden and building architectures and other works of art, was burned by GB and French. I don't think anybody can find an example other than China that's being invaded (or raped) by such amount of countries, big and small. So psychologically, Chinese are sensitive, a hard way is learned that if you fall behind, you will be beaten.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuanmingyuan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Nanjing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unequal_treaty

2) China doesn't feel sense of security right now and I don't believe anybody will if you were Chinese and live in mainland China. Look at the map and you will find why. Here I want to emphasize on India and other south countries. the relationship between China and India is not comparable with the relationship between US and Canada. the population, the religion, the history, the economic status and so on. We often proud of long history, but this can also be a heavy burden for the people who live nowaday on the soil. the history of US and Canada is relatively short, people share the same ideology and US is so dominant on every aspect. In terms of other southern countries, I need to dig more, but I know the Chinese Communist Party wants royalty. CCP doesn't like other countries surrounded that's being supported by CCP before betray him. One outstanding example is what Vietnam did after Vietnam war. So Vietnam has a history of stepping on two boats.

3) China wants south China sea is because of the shipping lanes, crude oil from middle east are through there. This is no strange considering the growing size of the economy. It's a life line, live or die. One thing I'd like to mention is that when I was in the elementary school in China during 70's before the economic boom, those islands in south China Sea belong to China was already written in the textbook. So it's not like China wants it overnight.

Overall, history is a burden and China is doing it's part. You will get beaten if you fall behind. Hard lesson learned from Western Countries. Definitely, while increasing its power, CCP also need to find a better way to deal with other countries. My wife always says, you earn respect. On the other hand, The United States, need to find a better way to make Chinese feel more secure. But for China, a more democratic system will earn more respect and flexibility.

I apologize for any improper words I used that already offended you. I was not very calm during my previous messages. You website did encourage me do more research. Sorry for the long post, I believe it will get shorter with improving of my writing skill.

Sincerely,
tx

Dear tx

A very interesting post, however you, and as most people around the world, may be missing a very important facet of our collective problem.
We fight amongst our selves and there by do not solve our collective problem. I realise that the following book is from a very different perspective and may be dismissed as pure fiction or BS.
However if you read the book with an open mind, you may understand, ( take a good look around at events and history ) it is difficult to think that what is in the book could be true, ( yet it seems to be ) it has been translated into several languages and I guess more translations are on the way.
Wishing all the best --- the book ---- The Alien Interview -- (TRADITIONAL CHINESE VERSION - Microsoft Word File) http://www.alieninterview.org/AI_chinese_trans.htm

sincerely,
gerald

[Higgenbotham]

Sorry for the long post, I believe it will get shorter with improving of my writing skill.

Your writing skill is very good.

[tx2]

Dear Higgenbotham and Gerald,

I sincerely thank both of you for the encouragement, that means a lot to me.
During the past a few years, I learned a lot from both of you and others on the message board. I also consider you guys are wise people. Wise people think with his own brain while ordinary person listen and think little. I consider myself a late bloomer and am trying to catchup.

I guess there is a reason that my wife some times says "you earn respect, you don't ask for it" to me. I will try to think more before post.

Gerald, I will read the book you suggested, though it could take time. I also read most part of the book " a bubble that broke the world". Why Egypt's economy collapsed after they build the pyramids? Is it because Egyptian spent too much resource built something that could not be consumed? So when those men returned, no food for them? I like that book a lot.

Peace.
Xin

[gerald]

tx2

Thank you for the complement, going against the herd can be a problem,
but it can also be very satisfactory and someties profitable.
As for you comment regarding the pyramids of Egypt, the story is more
complicated then generally believed and goes a lot further back in
time -maybe some of the technology of the Egyptian pyramid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VITXxyWTb5E

Also having talked to various Chinese students on some occasions (
they were my tenants while they attended college in Chicago ) I asked
if they were familiar with the pyramids of China? they never hear of
them, have you? and these pyramids also raise interesting questions.

Note - the possible role of water in the pyramids of Egypt and China
Note - also the images on the Dropa stone.

http://www.philipcoppens.com/china_pyr.html --- and ---
http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/201 ... 92633.html

There is much more -- once you go down this path.

Wishing you the best,

gerald