The unthinkable

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gerald
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at99sy wrote:
gerald wrote:Looks like some are getting ready for the 1800's life style
Many around the country have been doing this for the past couple of years. More serious than Y2K and the 1980's build ups.

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sy
John -
Maybe you should list the US in your "State of the World" chart
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To College Grads: It's A Different Economy
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-0 ... nt-economy

a posters comment to the above -- from - Cloud9.5 --

The majority of Americans distrust their government. Congress is more despised than cockroaches and lawyers. A third of the population expects a revolution.

American citizens now buy enough guns and ammunition to outfit a World War II size army every nine days.
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gerald wrote: > To College Grads: It's A Different Economy
> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-0 ... nt-economy

> a posters comment to the above -- from - Cloud9.5 --

> The majority of Americans distrust their government. Congress is
> more despised than cockroaches and lawyers. A third of the
> population expects a revolution.

> American citizens now buy enough guns and ammunition to outfit a
> World War II size army every nine days.

The things described in this article are ephemeral and will disappear,
just as things that were written about in similar articles in 2006
have disappeared. You have to look where we're going, and we're going
to an all-out financial and war crisis. The crisis will unify the
country, and mobilize the armed forces, which will change everything
that article describes.

In a related matter, I used to talk about a possible internal conflict
between Yankees and Latinos, but I no longer expect that to happen in
any major way. The Mexicans will no more side with the Chinese than
the Americans will.
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John wrote:
gerald wrote: > To College Grads: It's A Different Economy
> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-0 ... nt-economy

> a posters comment to the above -- from - Cloud9.5 --

> The majority of Americans distrust their government. Congress is
> more despised than cockroaches and lawyers. A third of the
> population expects a revolution.

> American citizens now buy enough guns and ammunition to outfit a
> World War II size army every nine days.

The things described in this article are ephemeral and will disappear,
just as things that were written about in similar articles in 2006
have disappeared. You have to look where we're going, and we're going
to an all-out financial and war crisis. The crisis will unify the
country, and mobilize the armed forces, which will change everything
that article describes.

In a related matter, I used to talk about a possible internal conflict
between Yankees and Latinos, but I no longer expect that to happen in
any major way. The Mexicans will no more side with the Chinese than
the Americans will.
You could be very right that internal conflict between Yankees and Latinos will - did- disappear ( I noticed little hostility between the two groups - those that worked that is-) However, I think, the issue in the US is primarily between
the productive and the nonproductive, complicated by various government actions. This coming together you mention is where I have my doubts. Yes, the country came together under FDR for WW2, however,
there appears to be considerable distrust of government ( at many levels and for many reasons, including the idea that government is against the people ). It would be interesting ,as a comparison, to know the level of distrust today against the government ( as illustrated by the gun issue ) and the level of distrust of the government under FDR, ( illustrated by the lack of a gun issue ) It appears there is a difference, just --- hmmmmm
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When I was growing up in the 1950s, my father, who was a Greek
immigrant, told me that the riots and violence in the 1930s were so
bad that he had thought that the U.S. government would collapse.
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John wrote:When I was growing up in the 1950s, my father, who was a Greek
immigrant, told me that the riots and violence in the 1930s were so
bad that he had thought that the U.S. government would collapse.
interesting
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A possible joker in the deck --- for what it is worth ( Joker was originally developed for the game Poker as a wild card --- the highest Trump in the deck )


http://exopolitics.org/eisenhower-threa ... testimony/

"President Eisenhower had lost control of extraterrestrial related projects to a control group called MJ-12.

In response to Dolan’s question, “Eisenhower was going to invade Area 51?” the CIA agent confirmed that Eisenhower indeed planned to so with the First Army.


After traveling to Area 51 and S-4, the CIA agent said that he saw several garage type doors with flying saucers in them. He described seeing a Gray alien at the S-4 facility that his boss “partially interviewed”. Upon returning to the White House, the agent and his boss relayed what they had seen at S-4. Significantly, the FBI Director, J. Edgar Hoover, was also present during the debriefing of the CIA agent and his boss over what they had witnessed at S-4 and Area-51. According to the CIA agent, Eisenhower was shocked."

"The Alien Interview" a book --

http://www.alieninterview.org/

---Top secret transcripts from Roswell, 1947, Planet Earth is not our home. It is our prison.---

Eisenhower's Farewell Address to the Nation

January 17, 1961

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ike.htm

"This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence – economic, political, even spiritual – is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government"

"Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central, it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly."


And in light of recent events --- where are we today?
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Not to worry -

We are protected -- like a culture in a petri dish --
courtesy of "The valley of Death" in Yakutian Siberia
an 8 minute video http://www.realufos.net/2011/10/close-l ... utian.html

from 2003 -
The radiation levels have been continuously monitored for the past six years, and now everyone - including the animals - has left the forest. Let me tell you something about the Tunguska explosion - something that has never been spoken of before. Two months before the explosion, every living animal fled the region. It was as if the installation had powered up to deal with the asteroid. With that came an increase in radiation http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/herco ... bus_21.htm



Just over three minutes before the explosion, the first "terminator" was delivered to a waiting position for a final reconnaissance before striking. The object detected by the American military satellite was not a meteorite or bolide. Its instruments recorded the flight of the first terminator as it plunged down to intercept the Vitim meteorite, http://www.astrologycom.com/yakutia7.html

On the other hand we may have a problem --

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienc ... ska09a.htm
The Chronicles of Other Peoples

Altogether, at approximate intervals of 600–700 years, several explosions or, rather, a whole complex of events including the precursors, took place.

All these occurrences were painstakingly recorded in epic poetry, traditions and legends. It is a curious fact that similar legends arose in the equatorial zone of the planet, where explosions or "giant fireballs" that suddenly appeared in the sky destroyed several centers of ancient civilizations.

Judging by the results of archaeological investigations carried out in the Upper Viliuy region by S. A. Fedoseyeva, the intermittent, wave-like settlement of this territory can be traced back roughly to the fourth millennium BC. In the first millennium AD, the line of historical development is interrupted—and this does not contradict the possible date for the last historical explosion as September 1380. The cloud it raised blotted out the Sun over Europe for several hours. In several geo-active zones, powerful earthquakes took place.

This event is recorded in written sources. In Russian chronicles, it coincided with the Battle of Kulikovo Field:
"…the gloom dispersed only in the second half of the day. A wind of such strength blew, that an arrow shot from a bow could not fly against it…"
This factor made a positive contribution to the Russian victory.

However, the explosions are described in Tungus legends far more vividly than in other sources. Judging by the accounts, they were many times worse than modern nuclear weapons.

If we take 1380 as our starting date and go back into the past, we can trace such moments. In 830, for example, the culture of the Mayans who inhabited the Yucatán Peninsula in Mexico was destroyed. Many of their cities were reduced to ruins by an explosion of monstrous force.

Some passages in the Bible are akin to the Yakut legends, e.g., the description of the plagues of Egypt and the demise of Sodom and Gomorrah. In one of the oases of the Arabian Peninsula, an ancient town was destroyed and literally reduced to ashes. According to legend, this took place when a huge fireball that appeared in the sky exploded.

At Mohenjo-daro on the Indian subcontinent, archaeologists discovered a devastated city.

The marks of the catastrophe—melted stone walls—clearly pointed to an explosion comparable with a nuclear bomb. Similar events are also described in Chinese chronicles from the 14th century. They say that, far to the north, a black cloud rose above the horizon and covered half the sky, scattering large fragments of stone. Stones also dropped from the sky in Scandinavia and Germany, where fire broke out in several towns. Scholars established that they were quite ordinary stones, and conjectured that a volcano had erupted somewhere.

Perhaps the cause of these misfortunes was really Tong Duurai who has been bursting out from under the ground for many centuries? While Niurgun Bootur blotted out half of the sky at his appearance, Tong Duurai considerably exceeded him in size and, ascending into the heavens, completely disappeared from view.

We note that in the Valley of Death, a rise in the background radiation is observed at certain intervals of time—a phenomenon that specialists can’t explained.
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And of course all of these people ( astronauts and cosmonauts ) are nuts or telling stories
http://www.alieninterview.org/Astronauts_testimony.htm
http://www.alieninterview.org/

hmmmm -- we may have some very big problems - time for another cataclysmic reset back to the stone age?
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Drones Are Used For Domestic Surveillance, FBI Director Admits

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-1 ... s#comments

from comments section ---

SMG

The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely.

In the far distance a helicopter skimmed down between the roofs, hovered for an instant like a bluebottle, and darted away again with a curving flight. It was the police patrol, snooping into people's windows.

Oceanians live in a constant state of being monitored by the Party, through the use of advanced, invasive technology.

-1984, Orwell

or 2013 America
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The Juggernaut

Another conspiracy file needs to go into the reality file.
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And more to come
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