27-Sep-13 World View -- Hezbollah in Syria changed Mideast

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27-Sep-13 World View -- Hezbollah in Syria changed Mideast

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27-Sep-13 World View -- How Hezbollah's reluctant foray into Syria changed the Mideast


Pakistan's PM Nawaz Sharif under fire over peace talks with Taliban

** 27-Sep-13 World View -- How Hezbollah's reluctant foray into Syria changed the Mideast
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How Hezbollah's reluctant foray into Syria changed the Mideast
Pakistan's PM Nawaz Sharif under fire over peace talks with Taliban


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Generational Dynamics, Lebanon, Hezbollah, Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah,
Syria, Iran, Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei, Bashar al-Assad,
Russia, Jaish al-Muhajireen wa Ansar,
Pakistan, Nawaz Sharif, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, TTP,
Asif Ali Zardari, Benazir Bhutto, Imran Khan
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Re: 27-Sep-13 World View -- Hezbollah in Syria changed Midea

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John
I can't imagine may Americans care about Assad one way or another. However there is this
" drag it into war between Sunnis and Shi'ites... That strife will consume everybody."
perhaps the idea or intent of the west is for them to kill each other off until the numbers become less of a threat to non-muslims? instead of some sort of fanatical compassion for the various regimes.

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Re: 27-Sep-13 World View -- Hezbollah in Syria changed Midea

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at99sy wrote: > I can't imagine may Americans care about Assad one way or
> another. However there is this " drag it into war between Sunnis
> and Shi'ites... That strife will consume everybody." perhaps the
> idea or intent of the west is for them to kill each other off
> until the numbers become less of a threat to non-muslims? instead
> of some sort of fanatical compassion for the various regimes.
I get all sorts of comments. Yes, there are many who say exactly what
you say - don't drag us into another Mideast war. These comments are
generally from people who agree that al-Assad is a genocidal maniac,
but who, like you, don't give a shit. They just want us to stay out.

But those aren't the comments I was alluding to. I was alluding to
hallucinatory comments, typical of the Russians and their supporters,
that al-Assad is a nice guy who wouldn't hurt a flea and is just
defending himself. Those are the sycophants that I was referring to.

By the way, I've never taken sides in the Syrian civil war, and I
wouldn't which side to take if I wanted to.
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Re: 27-Sep-13 World View -- Hezbollah in Syria changed Midea

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The Syrian conflict is starting to resemble the Spanish Civil War, or perhaps more appropriately, pre-WWI Europe. The difference between the two conflicts being whether the scope of the conflict can be limited. Although there is some question as to how limited the SCW was, or whether it, like the infamous Typhoid Mary who brought death and destruction to others but was herself immune, simply degenerated into WWII.

Here are several observations:

1. Historically speaking, man will do for God - or what he is told that God wants him of him, ah la Iran, via Hezbollah/Nasrallah - what he would never do for himself; both for good, but more commonly for evil.
2. The metamorphosis of - what appeared to be, at least initially from the outside - a secular conflict that has stratified increasingly into a Sunni - Shia religious conflict. The victor of whom may then be expected to turn it's intention to the rest of a clueless and unsuspecting infidel world.
3. The growing magnetism of the Syrian conflict, regarding the acquisition of allies on both sides. It appears to be an increasingly dangerously analog to the path followed by pre-WWI Europe after the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo. By several months after the assassination the world had split into two armed camps, the one of the Central Powers, and the other of the Powers of the Entente; both, it turned out, willing to snuff out millions of young lives for the life of the Archduke, and his wife.
4. Russian ratcheting up of naval forces off Syria - and more recently, and perhaps importantly China's first time sending of military vessels into the Med in what appeared to be a coordinated, Russian/Chinese, action designed to block U.S. Naval action - has changed considerably the nature of the Syrian conflict's, and the world's risk. Even though the U.S. involvement was foolishly painted as a limited response to the use of truly dastardly chemical weapons.
5. The reckless belief by those in power in the U.S. that they can maintain control of any conflict that develops in response to any U.S. military action taken in Syria, or anywhere else in the world for that matter.
6. The asinine lack of understanding of the incremental nature of conflict by those on the outside of the initial conflict; those who believe that they can just "dip a toe" into the conflict - "... just to show those guys...."
7. The lack of realization that weakness neither engenders friendship, nor does it dissuade either the merciless, or the brutal.
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