Financial topics

[at99sy]

>> H it would appear then that this situation reflects a massive
>> coordinated assault on preventing the financial meltdown for as
>> long as possible.

> That's another aspect I've thought about. There wasn't one leader
> of any major country in the world who wanted to upset the
> applecart and tell the rest of them no, that I will look out for
> my own country first.

I actually wrote about this in 2006. Take a look at this article. It
says exactly what you're saying -- that no major country wants to
upset the applecart by crossing any red lines that might start a war.

** A beautiful mind? The world is paralyzed into a 'Nash equilibrium'
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... 17nash.htm
John

This pretty much sums it up. "you reach a point where each player has to play the same "move" over and over again, or lose. In other words, no deviation in strategy for any single player is profitable. "

They are all in the same game and the first to blink either loses or wins. No clear sight on the outcome at this point and I believe that is what is keeping the game going for such a long period.

Clarity of choice bring insight and action. Once the field of view is clear the choice will be made to either pull the rug out or unleash the dogs of war. Iraq and Afg were just warm ups to test the new toys. They have things we have never even heard of before.

In 1985 or 1986 I was in the 3rd Ranger Batt and we were alerted and mobilized to respond to a coup in Uganda. It was much like the Grenada situation and many American diplomats and students were being threatened. We got to the airfield and there were 22 C-141's loaded with our gear. Mind you it only took 8 I think to load all of us, an entire combat battalion. Once in the air we were given briefings and then the lessons began. We were showed weapon systems and all kinds of, at the time, high tech stuff to use that none of us had ever even heard of before. It was mind blowing the stuff we had with us. We literally could have taken over the country with 600 men. as luck would have it we were 100 miles off the border when we were notified that the rebels had been told who was coming and they hauled ass out of dodge. Just the threat of a Spec Ops Batt coming to visit was enough to win a conflict then. I think we spent close to 40 hours in the air. We were not pleased.

When we got back there was a small one paragraph clip in the paper that mentioned a coup attempt and that it was quickly resolved. Back then, Reagan bowed to no one, no one knew what we were doing. But those that mattered knew what we were capable of.

I think we have lost that element and that changes the rules of the game significantly.

When the other players at the table know what cards you are holding, the pot grows large quickly.

thanks for the link J

cheers

sy

[gerald]

sy question, I know this is a little off the deep end, and maybe you don't want to answer, but in my readings etc. of "odd" things I have come across a number of interesting items. Two of which are ---

1) The real "deep" black budget projects are self financed and politicians are not informed, including the president whoever he. This is because the president does not have a high enough security clearance and politicians are inherently unreliable.
2) During the "cold" war between the US and the Soviets, an event occurred to "send a message" the event was that on one day ALL of the US and Soviet nuclear missile launch codes were scrambled to prevent their launch, apparently by an outside "force".

Do you think the above could possibly be true?

cheers

g

On another thought -- game playing

Some times to win you set up a trap and look weak --- yes, it is a dangerous game. hmmmmmmmmm

[at99sy]

sy question, I know this is a little off the deep end, and maybe you don't want to answer, but in my readings etc. of "odd" things I have come across a number of interesting items. Two of which are ---

1) The real "deep" black budget projects are self financed and politicians are not informed, including the president whoever he. This is because the president does not have a high enough security clearance and politicians are inherently unreliable.
2) During the "cold" war between the US and the Soviets, an event occurred to "send a message" the event was that on one day ALL of the US and Soviet nuclear missile launch codes were scrambled to prevent their launch, apparently by an outside "force".

Do you think the above could possibly be true?

cheers

g

On another thought -- game playing

Some times to win you set up a trap and look weak --- yes, it is a dangerous game. hmmmmmmmmm

Gerald, on #1 I have no actual proof but I understand it to be true and many years ago I heard many things from those far deeper than I about some incidents that never made the news but many of us had heard rumors about.

#2 I have no knowledge of but the thought is terrifying, if not a bit "War Games" like. Matt Broderick comes to mind.

In respect to #1 an incident that some of us heard about during the mid late 80's was of a very black op that involved taking down a compound on a farm in very rural Washington State. There was supposedly a militia group with ricin gas in large quantities and several other nasty items. We heard that everyone was removed and all items secured and all evidence of their existence was erased. I guess the quantities and sophistication of the operation and delivery methods in place surprised everyone and that an event was literally days from taking place. fast forward to 1999 and I was hiking the Appalachian Trail and in NY I met a section hiker who owned a demolition company. After several hours of talking it turned out that we both knew one of the Sgts in my platoon. This guy grilled me about all kinds of things before he decided I was legit and it was just the two of us at this camp site. Then he casually asked me if I had heard about a "thing" in Washington that went down. I kept stirring my soup and said just as casually, "you mean the farm thing?" then he went on to tell me that he was one of the guys on the farm that night and told me all about it. Freaked me right the hell out. But said Reagan knew all about it and that kind of thing was going down pretty regularly during his two terms.


sy
Ted Kazynski had nothing on these guys.

cheers

sy

[aedens]

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/20 ... 3-billion/

[aedens]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-analy ... 10402.html

[Higgenbotham]

sy, a few years ago, I mentioned this.
http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... hood#p8107

This group operated out of rural Washington State (and Idaho). The ring was busted up by the FBI in 1984. My understanding was that 1/2 of all FBI operating capacity was on this case at its peak.

Since the group operated by cell organization, I would have to think there were some remnants that survived the 1984 breakup.

The book is no longer in print (I still have a hard cover copy). Used copies are still available.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Silent-Brothe ... 0451167864

From page 7, "Authorities were alarmed at the harrowing plans the group laid - sabotage against dams, water supplies, utility and communications lines - all designed to transform American cities into Beirut. They stopped Mathews only four months short of attempting the shutdown of a major US city through terrorism."

I remember reading one section where they had infiltrated the telephone infrastructure and figured out how to take out the telephone system of a major city.

In another section, it talked about their methods for employing what they called "switch vehicles". When they purchased vehicles, they used only cash transactions and never touched the cash, so as to not get their fingerprints on it. They either wore gloves or had the teller count the money out and put it in an envelope, then handed the envelope to the seller.

Basically, what this book said to me is that a small group of ordinary and determined men can create true havoc. I think it would be easier to do so today, and the government has been aware of this fact for quite some time. Like I said last night, they have been lucky.

Another aspect of the "war on cash" could be to stymie the operations any groups like "The Order".

[gerald]

Does The Trail Of Dead Bankers Lead Somewhere? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-1 ... -somewhere

"this is now the 7th suspicious banker death that we have witnessed in just the past few weeks..."

"So did all of those men actually kill themselves?

Well, there is reason to believe that at least some of those deaths may not have been suicides after all."

"But one thing is for certain - dead bankers don't talk."

"In the final analysis, there is really not that much difference between how mobsters operate and how Wall Street operates.

If you cross the line, you may end up paying a very great price."

Oh how interesting ! --------

[Higgenbotham]

As an interesting aside which showed the sophisticated operations of this group, the "switch vehicle" operations were done as follows, from what I remember.

Let's say the group was going to hold up an armored car (they did). Which is probably yet another reason for the "war on cash"; not only did the group purchase supplies with cash, but they financed their operations by holding up armored cars.

Getting back to the subject, after the group determined the location for the robbery, they would find an out of the way area a few miles from where the robbery was to take place, and put the "switch vehicles" there.

Once the robbery was finished, they would drive to the isolated area and park the original vehicles there, then drive away in the "switch vehicles". It might take the authorities several days or even weeks to find the original vehicles, and all of that tme they would have a bulletin out looking for anyone in the original vehicles, which were no longer being driven and were hidden away where they had been abandoned just minutes after the robbery was finished.

[aedens]

Prying at the cracks of an irrational psyche only confirms the sheep cannot see so they only listen.
We know silence is a virtue but we cannot hide a simple candle in any age. Test the Spirits or reap the whirlwind.

[gerald]

Is Nature dealing us a joker?

142 Cities In Brazil Are Now Rationing Water As Drought Goes Critical http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-1 ... s-critical

200 Years Of Scorchitude: Professor Warns California To Brace For A "Mega-Drought" http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-1 ... ga-drought

To examine the social and economic impacts of the next Grand Solar Minimum http://nextgrandminimum.wordpress.com/ ---

And lets not forget the looney toons --- All-time low temperature records were also set in Antarctica in 2013. As demonstrated by the GLOBAL WARMING RESEARCH MISSION aboard the MV Akademik Schokalskiyglobal — the Russian ship stuck in Antarctic ice for two weeks. -- during Antarctica's summer -----

Reality? Whats reality? We have an agenda!, Pass laws! --- Onward! ------------- f 'en idiots.