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Investments, gold, currencies, surviving after a financial meltdown
Higgenbotham
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aedens wrote:This moved me to consider, called the market as they demonstrated on close the way they feel is chosing a way they want to live.
Over the past few weeks, I had 4 key numbers posted here for 4 indexes.

SPX 1853
DJIA 16250
NDX 3683
COMP 4289

It's quite interesting to look at today's last hour selloff. You will find that every one of those numbers was penetrated last hour and then every index closed the week and month above those critical numbers. Anyone who has watched these markets for the past 4 years knows the Fed is in there with black budget fiat moving these futures markets over the key levels at the key times. The bounce back from this selloff today was not natural. No free market would move like that.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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My feeling is to not go short the S&P 500 to Gold ratio quite yet. It has the 5 waves down and it would seem prudent to see what kind of a bounce back happens on the retrace. Judging from the ratio, selling gold now should be the right move to make shorter term. However, I would also think that with the unnatural moves in the stock indexes, that could keep gold held up if they have in fact lost control of the ratio. I would rather wait a bit longer to find out though (actually if I did this long term I would sell the Russell 2000 index short with long gold).
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
aedens
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Higgenbotham wrote:My feeling is to not go short the S&P 500 to Gold ratio quite yet. It has the 5 waves down and it would seem prudent to see what kind of a bounce back happens on the retrace. Judging from the ratio, selling gold now should be the right move to make shorter term. However, I would also think that with the unnatural moves in the stock indexes, that could keep gold held up if they have in fact lost control of the ratio. I would rather wait a bit longer to find out though (actually if I did this long term I would sell the Russell 2000 index short with long gold).
this may underscore your view http://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Experts-E ... 654&sr=1-1
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"With the QEs, many are wondering why stocks rose for the past 3 years in terms of gold. I think it's because the US is producing more of its own oil..."

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/sta ... l/petr.pdf

Quantity (thousands of barrels) of Imports

2003 3,676,005
2004 3,820,979 (PEAK)
2005 3,754,671
2006 3,734,226
2007 3,690,568
2008 3,590,628
2009 3,314,787
2010 3,377,077
2011 3,321,918 (SHARP DROPOFF BEGINS)
2012 3,092,332
2013 2,808,689
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
aedens
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Some may convey to little to late when the repudiation process furthers that has been well underway some note as NGDP. So Gold will continue to be the insurance for emerging markets and regional zones still descending per capita I feel as was noted also. This is the root issue on many discussions here on trade zones and the tear up period on derivatives we covered some time back. We must still admit on varying amounts on a national level to the Triffins dilemma that still applies to he current nation states even if it is a chosen illusionary topic for the well heeled special interest myopics. We all understand to make hay when the sunshine in different zones on opportunities called market conditions. Moving fungible capital to enhance growth is as old as the future contracts we have read on clay tablets since Sumer that have been unearthed. The problem of indifference is just descending standards that simply shift left or right of political spectrum's in time to threat based perception of classes or as we utilize the herd as the Emory study clearly supplied the responses has characteristic to its narrowed cultural political bias. Watching service providers treat there own employees before to the point there hair falls out as contract providers ignoring it and elsewhere now net under windows out is not good business but you cannot expect much other than bonded agents to secure and maintain proper risk management. On a human level it matters not and to consider it does is naive on many levels. The attitude of class cult maintenance inertias to cargo cult memberships and those who say enough are castigated that are a far cry from civilized steps to simple fear and praise constructs. To simply state it when you care more than they do about there own condition it has been over since bent of minds do exist and that has never been about the individual. Consensus on any topic can descend to our kill switch view we know well and rather early in the forums and the real life applications. The welfare industry is no accident and liberty some cannot even define in growing numbers will apply since it always does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWJ6qBPIfZs
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Higgenbotham wrote:"With the QEs, many are wondering why stocks rose for the past 3 years in terms of gold. I think it's because the US is producing more of its own oil..."

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/sta ... l/petr.pdf

Quantity (thousands of barrels) of Imports

2003 3,676,005
2004 3,820,979 (PEAK)
2005 3,754,671
2006 3,734,226
2007 3,690,568
2008 3,590,628
2009 3,314,787
2010 3,377,077
2011 3,321,918 (SHARP DROPOFF BEGINS)
2012 3,092,332
2013 2,808,689
I believe that Ollie was put on the stand to tell the american people,
"Fuck you---we are running things!"
And then the american people put their heads down and said,
"That's OK, but, PLEASE, don't forget to call us for dinner."
And that is when I decided to live elsewhere----the best decision of my life.
Good luck to you, PATRIOTS
But I'll wait until you are in the streets before I have any hope for the USA h/t l

World Bank study of corporate income taxes in 185 countries for 2013 finds that cash tax payments are higher for companies operating in the United States as a percentage of income than the average of other OECD and non-OECD countries.
The U.S. cash effective tax rate (ETR) of 27.6 percent is more than 12 percentage points higher than the average of other OECD countries and 11 percentage points higher than the average of non-OECD countries.

Globally engaged U.S. companies contribute nearly $7 trillion to the U.S. economy, or 54 percent of U.S. economic output, and support more than 70 million jobs, or 48 percent of private-sector employment. "Corporate lobbyists incessantly claim that our corporate tax rate is too high, and that it's not 'competitive' with the rest of the world," said Robert McIntyre, director of Citizens for Tax Justice and the study's lead author. "Our new report shows that both of these claims are false," he said, contending that most large corporations pay nowhere near the statutory 35-percent U.S. corporate income tax rate due to tax breaks that lower their effective tax rates.

In politics, few talents are as richly rewarded as the ability to convince parasites that they are victims. Welfare states on both sides of the Atlantic have discovered that largesse to losers does not reduce their hostility to society, but only increases it. Far from producing gratitude, generosity is seen as an admission of guilt, and the reparations as inadequate compensations for injustices -- leading to worsening behavior by the recipients. Some people say that taxes are the price we pay for civilization. But the runaway taxes of our time are the price we pay for being gullible. Whatever the ideology or rhetoric of the political left, their agenda around the world has been preempting other people's decisions and regimenting their lives.

Structurally speaking to date the election solves nothing as we are but in theory runs the Scoundrels out as Carroll Quigley (1966) conveyed.

After the first crude bloodletting they always move to the Social dialectic route as we noted the Neo-Marxist strategies of Antonio Gramsci an Italian Communist relying on gradualism, infiltration and the dialectic process rather than a bloody revolution, Gramsci's transformational Marxism was so subtle that few even noticed today. Also after reading Tolstoy's, The Kingdom of God is Within You, it convinced Gandhi to avoid violence and espouse nonviolent resistance. Tolstoy also seen the rise and fall of it before it even existed, it leveled me when I first read it. These people today will never be able to allow others to be left alone in peace.

As Richard Pipes has pointed out [in 'Survival is Not Enough', Simon and Schuster, New York, 1984, page 80], 'such mastery is secured, in the first place, by control of the organs of information'. The objective is 'to control thought at the source - that is, in the mind that absorbs and processes the information - and the best way of accomplishing this is by shaping words and phrases in the desired manner'.

The problem is not just a handful of government villains, the problem is US, the weak and complicit electorate we've become. As we also know when the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic Franklin warned since also we know that no thought of recompense other than the goodwill of the community can sustain prosperity and freedom.
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(Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin demanded and won his parliament's approval on Saturday to invade Ukraine, where the new government warned of war, put its troops on high alert and appealed to NATO for help.

Putin's open assertion of the right to send troops to a country of 46 million people on the ramparts of central Europe creates the biggest confrontation between Russia and the West since the Cold War.

Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk, leading a government that took power after Moscow's ally Viktor Yanukovich fled a week ago, said Russian military action "would be the beginning of war and the end of any relations between Ukraine and Russia".

Acting President Oleksander Turchinov ordered troops to be placed on high combat alert. Foreign Minister Andriy Deshchytsya said he had met European and U.S. officials and sent a request to NATO to "examine all possibilities to protect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine".

Putin's move was a direct rebuff to Western leaders who had repeatedly urged Russia not to intervene, including U.S. President Barack Obama, who just a day before had held a televised address to warn Moscow of "costs" if it acted.

Troops with no insignia on their uniforms but clearly Russian - some in vehicles with Russian number plates - have already seized Crimea, an isolated peninsula in the Black Sea where Moscow has a large military presence in the headquarters of its Black Sea Fleet. Kiev's new authorities have been powerless to stop them.

The Russian forces solidified their control of Crimea and unrest spread to other parts of Ukraine on Saturday. Pro-Russian demonstrators clashed, sometimes violently, with supporters of Ukraine's new authorities and raised the Russian flag over government buildings in several cities.

"This is probably the most dangerous situation in Europe since the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968," said a Western official on condition of anonymity. "Realistically, we have to assume the Crimea is in Russian hands. The challenge now is to deter Russia from taking over the Russian-speaking east of Ukraine."

Putin asked parliament to approve force "in connection with the extraordinary situation in Ukraine, the threat to the lives of citizens of the Russian Federation, our compatriots" and to protect the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea.

The upper house swiftly delivered a unanimous "yes" vote, shown live on television.

Western capitals scrambled for a response, but it was limited to words.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/ ... E820140301

Limited to words and printing more money.
On Kiev's central Independence Square, where protesters camped out for months against Yanukovich, a World War Two film about Crimea was being shown on a giant screen, when Yuri Lutsenko, a former interior minister, interrupted it to announce Putin's decree. "War has arrived," Lutsenko said.
Who cares, just print more money.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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http://www.amazon.com/Disinformation-Un ... 1936488604

Noted before so now they will see what Father Martin already new and told us. Sad day indeed H

Some grew up in an age when you hide under your desk during air raid drills and the Baby Huey assholes
you had to ignore who in my eyes are the new PC dead heads we have today.
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02.27.14

Putin’s Bluff? U.S. Spies Say Russia Won't Invade Ukraine

American intelligence has concluded that Russia won't openly invade Ukraine, despite a massive military exercise on the border and the armed takeover of local airports.
U.S. intelligence estimates conclude that Russia has no intention of invading Ukraine.
02.28.14

U.S. Spies Said No Russian Invasion of Ukraine—Putin Disagreed

A day after U.S. intelligence said there would be no Russian invasion of Ukraine, Putin’s troops started coming over the border. On Thursday night, the best assessment from the U.S. intelligence community—and for that matter most experts observing events in Ukraine—was that Vladimir Putin’s military would not invade Ukraine.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... greed.html

Not a problem, just print more money. Printing money makes people much better at doing their jobs; it makes the whole country stronger. When you print money denial is never a problem and reality can be seen much more clearly.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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I'm seeing a lot of debate in the forums about whether the weekend events in the Ukraine will take the stock market down. What is surprising to me about that is the number of people who are adamant that it won't. I could cite what happened in March 1939 when Hitler annexed Czechoslovakia but am not sure it makes any difference because the market bubble of 1937 had been deflated by then. That can be taken one of two ways - either that due to the bubble being deflated already investors were seeing reality more clearly, or that our market has a longer way to go down and this should trigger that downside. That would be assuming that this is the comparable event but I may be wrong about that.
"I am asking neither that Germany be allowed to oppress three and a half million Frenchmen, nor am I asking that three and a half million Englishmen be placed at our mercy. Rather I am simply demanding that the oppression of three and a half million Germans in Czechoslovakia cease and that the inalienable right to self-determination take its place."
- Adolf Hitler's speech at the NSDAP Congress 1938
Sounds familiar.
“In connection with the extraordinary situation in Ukraine, the threat to the lives of citizens of the Russian Federation, our compatriots, the personnel of the military contingent of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation deployed in the territory of Ukraine (Autonomous Republic of Crimea) in accordance with an international treaty, and pursuant to Article 102-1(d) of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, I hereby submit to the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation a letter on the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the territory of Ukraine pending normalisation of the public and political situation in that country."
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/721586
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