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Interesting times indeed for the rider.

Daniel 7:7 Daniel 7:8 Daniel 7:24 to be blunt
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John wrote:
John wrote:I guess that's what "going parabolic" means.
Dow up 150 points.
This just has to be in the crazy "going parabolic", "melt up", or "blow off". I just can't imagine this going too much longer, but I never thought it would go this long, so I just don't know. Interesting times for sure.

Since there is 4 times as much US dollars now, it would be possible to have prices 4 times as high and so make the 3x on the stock market since the low not even up in real terms. But I think that the market would crash long before prices really started going up. So in today's prices, the market is rather high and I don't think it can stay high till prices of other things catch up. I think we are due for a crash.
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The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent comes to mind.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-0 ... -world-see
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vincecate wrote:This just has to be in the crazy "going parabolic", "melt up", or "blow off". I just can't imagine this going too much longer, but I never thought it would go this long, so I just don't know.
That's pretty much where the naysayers are at today, I think, those few who are left. Pretty much expresses what I've already said today. This is what I said earlier today: "I don't know why it is going up, I really don't. But you're talking to a guy who doesn't get it anyway."
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While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
Carl Lieberman
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Martin Armstrong says that the market will continue up for one more year. The stock markets are now owned by the world's central banks, who are rotating out of sovereign debt as it is about to explode. I've never understood how the market keeps going up, but Armstrong has been spot on for most of this crisis. Who know if there will be another year of market tops. Eventually this entire debt based make believe world will implode. Aprés ca le deluge. It will be like the collapse of the Assignats during the French Revolution.
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Why are "they" pushing for massive immigration ( legal and other wise ) is the US? Is there a reason? -- maybe --- Study: All Employment Growth Since 2000 Went to Immigrants http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/38 ... -nro-staff

"According to a major new report from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), net employment growth in the United States since 2000 has gone entirely to immigrants, legal and illegal. Using data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, CIS scholars Steven A. Camarota and Karen Zeigler found that there were 127,000 fewer working-age natives holding a job in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000, while the number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level.

The rapidity with which immigrants recovered from the Great Recession, as well as the fact that they held a disproportionate share of jobs relative to their share of population growth before the recession, help to explain their findings, the authors report. In addition, native-born Americans and immigrants were affected differently by the recession."
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hmmmmmm ----- Is it because the American born are soft and don't want to work "hard" especially since they have a "degree" and feel entitled to a "better "job? hmmmm
Having just spent some time in Iceland, the hard dirty work is done by immigrants. The native born are upset about the influx of immigrants, but don't want to do the "dirty"
work. How interesting.
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The 4 times it touched or nearly touched the line are marked with the blue dots.
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Added some red lines to the above chart. These are all 59 weeks apart, except for one set that is 43 weeks apart (from April 2010 to February 2011). Next week looks to be 59 weeks. Some of the runs into the highs look to be about 12 weeks and this week looks to be week 12.
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Still watching the area around July 8. Could be something significant will happen then. Perhaps it could be an all time high with the S&P touching 2000. Or maybe the big high happened today when the Dow touched 17000, which has been talked about for a long time, and there will be a negative event over the holiday which sends the market down around July 8. You got me. I have no idea why we're here to begin with. Still 15% short.

One thing I find interesting about the above charts. The so-called crashes now look like minor speed bumps. If there's really going to be a generational crash in this Fourth Turning, my opinion is for sure it didn't happen yet. And if it's coming, it's going to be a crash like nobody can imagine.

Thinking about what happened in 2008, if there's a bigger crash than that, a lot of damage is going to be done, because the 2008 crash nearly destroyed the global system. I don't know what people can possibly be thinking. I don't believe hardly anyone is thinking at all. It's pure lemming to cliff behavior.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Some interesting discussion about Christine Lagarde

7/2/14 The Sound of Music
http://kliguy38depression2news.blogspot ... music.html
5/24/14 Occult Message in Speech by Christine Lagarde of IMF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYmViPTndxw

7/1/14 Steve Quayle: We Are Headed for a Crisis of Biblical Proportions-IMF Christine Lagarde's Warning!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ldfokBbhb8
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