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aedens
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http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/hall-of-fame/

Same mindset as the Smithsonian's to cover up facts for the narratives.
Precursor of the narrative science Nazis as the silent weapons of the silent war
maniacs who exist.

http://www.klimaskeptik.cz/news/intervi ... -from-gfu/

Actually the government studies funded by taxpayers support the wage dissipation crowd of position which is rather insane.
The other term we utilized was rent seeking.

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The 10 year Japanese bonds pay 0.5%. In the past month the Yen is down about 4% and it dropped nearly 1% today. Much like losing 8 years worth of Interest in a month, or 2 years worth of interest in a day. There is no way that 10 year JGBs are a reasonable investment. And the more people that get out of them, the less reasonable they will be. We may be getting close to the "rush for the exits" panic in JGBs and Yen. This is how I expect hyperinflation in the Yen to start. I am getting a bit excited.
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When we see credit destruction Vin then its to late. Level three assets worth salvaging is all there is left.
Smart money will slowly walk away to others zones and try to maintain viable energy clusters.
By the end of the year it will be easier for more to see.... GE sold its consumer appliance for example to a zone.

Text book timing as noted since US Consumer credit grew by over $26 billion in July - smashing expectations of $17.35bn,
and rising by the most since 2011. As usual, the leap was led by non-revolving credit (rising $20.6 billion) as auto and student
loans continue to surge. Consumer credit grew at its fastest pace in three years. t

Market fatigue or as we conversed before as rope burn. As we seen India cannot take up the slack yet, or when ever just maybe.
This market segment reminds me of circa 1981 and they consider nothing is new under the Sun on renditions we seen before.

http://gdxforum.com/forum/search.php?ke ... sf=msgonly

I still find it fascinating 94 percent of academicians consider themselves above average.

We can only consider numbers for now and generated growth rates for some sanity checks.

1980- 4,453,831,714 amount 18.5 growth rate
1990- 5,278,639,789 amount 15.2 growth rate
2000- 6,082,966,429 amount 12.6 growth rate
2010- 6,848,932,929 amount 10.7 growth rate
2020- 7,584,821,144 amount 8.7 growth rate
2030- 8,246,619,341 amount 7.3 growth rate

Water will decide before I suspect.
I read some 2004 papers and before on so called "change" and see only a wage seeking cult.
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vincecate wrote:The 10 year Japanese bonds pay 0.5%. In the past month the Yen is down about 4% and it dropped nearly 1% today. Much like losing 8 years worth of Interest in a month, or 2 years worth of interest in a day. There is no way that 10 year JGBs are a reasonable investment. And the more people that get out of them, the less reasonable they will be. We may be getting close to the "rush for the exits" panic in JGBs and Yen. This is how I expect hyperinflation in the Yen to start. I am getting a bit excited.

At 2.87%, and with inflation sitting above 3.5% these same ones are experiencing a net loss in purchasing power. We never left nirp and those who fell behind cannot simply wander back into the center now can they. As they warned before one day it just stopped. Problem still is only one in a million can see it. Even before the 1933 reorganization in all caps when they attacked wages, and not income it was already over. Goes back to the hidden nomimal losses added on as always called revenue drain of tax to support the seen and unseen burden. The current jagged pills will make the same mistake which cost them dearly as before. They learned nothing or will they ever being relegated to the servile status they embrace. The anemic recovery is no mistake or accident. Just another fiat social virus running its course lacking a host. Paper is the currency of slaves.
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aedens wrote: > I still find it fascinating 94 percent of academicians consider
> themselves above average.
When I was in high school, I did a project for one class that
consisted of a driving questionnaire that I asked all my friends'
parents to fill out. The questions were things like how much do you
drive, how many tickets and accidents have you had, and "Do you
consider yourself an above average, average, or below average driver."

I believe I had about 15 filled out questionnaires. One said he was
an average driver, but all the rest said they were "above average,"
including the one who had gotten 12 tickets.
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John wrote:
aedens wrote: > I still find it fascinating 94 percent of academicians consider
> themselves above average.
When I was in high school, I did a project for one class that
consisted of a driving questionnaire that I asked all my friends'
parents to fill out. The questions were things like how much do you
drive, how many tickets and accidents have you had, and "Do you
consider yourself an above average, average, or below average driver."

I believe I had about 15 filled out questionnaires. One said he was
an average driver, but all the rest said they were "above average,"
including the one who had gotten 12 tickets.
Human nature -- We like to think we are better then we are, unless we are raised as slaves.
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1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don’t discuss it — especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it’s not reported, it didn’t happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.
2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the ‘How dare you!’ gambit.
3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such ‘arguable rumors’. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a ‘wild rumor’ from a ‘bunch of kids on the Internet’ which can have no basis in fact.
4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary ‘attack the messenger’ ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as ‘kooks’, ‘right-wing’, ‘liberal’, ‘left-wing’, ‘terrorists’, ‘conspiracy buffs’, ‘radicals’, ‘militia’, ‘racists’, ‘religious fanatics’, ‘sexual deviates’, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning — simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent’s viewpoint.
7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.
8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough ‘jargon’ and ‘minutia’ to illustrate you are ‘one who knows’, and simply say it isn’t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.
9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.
10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man — usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with – a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues — so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.
11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the ‘high road’ and ‘confess’ with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made — but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, ‘just isn’t so.’ Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly ‘call for an end to the nonsense’ because you have already ‘done the right thing.’ Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for ‘coming clean’ and ‘owning up’ to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.
12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.
13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic
which forbears any actual material fact.
14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.
15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.
16. Vanish evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won’t have to address the issue.
17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can ‘argue’ with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how ‘sensitive they are to criticism.’
19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the ‘play dumb’ rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.
20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations — as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed
with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.
21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body which is in your pocket. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed and unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed. Usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim.
22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.
23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.
24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health.
25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.


Isaiah 53:3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

Isaiah 30:1 "Woe to the obstinate children," declares the LORD, "to those who carry out plans that are not mine, forming an alliance, but not by my Spirit.

2 Timothy 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.
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Well, it's nice to know that if we're all going to die because the sun explodes,
it'll probably be less painful than a war.
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John wrote:
Well, it's nice to know that if we're all going to die because the sun explodes,
it'll probably be less painful than a war.
Yes, it would be fast, but don't worry, our sun is not in an overload situation vis a vis the galactic circuit. If it were, it might split in two. According to one theory of the electric universe regarding binary stars.

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