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gerald
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aedens wrote:http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/ ... d-answers/

Todays simply confirms more than not of the effect that nothing will be learned as before.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Leaked%20Pent ... 20Behavior

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Vaccine%20pio ... %20Vaccine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2so1Y8_Uw

Full speed and pagan and it's no game.....

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Hell is coming to Town and the dues are going to be paid.

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Wyatt Earp: What makes a man like Ringo, Doc? What makes him do the things he does?
Doc Holliday: A man like Ringo has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. He can never kill enough, or steal enough,
or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.
Wyatt Earp: What does he want?
Doc Holliday: Revenge.
Wyatt Earp: For what?
Doc Holliday: Being born.

Tyler Durden: Where'd you go, psycho boy?
Narrator: I felt like destroying something beautiful.
People do not want to believe that there are those who get great pleasure for destroying and giving pain to others. It is in their innate nature and people who do not believe this are fools and pay the price. --- same old same old.
gerald
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Spain Warns "Something Went Wrong" As Suspected Ebola Cases Rise In Madrid
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-0 ... ise-madrid

"air traffic is the driver.," and added ominously, "it's just a matter of who gets lucky and who gets unlucky."

Spanish authorities are struggling to explain the infection, as The Daily Mail reports

"At the moment we are investigating the way in which the professional was infected," said Antonio Alemany, the head of Madrid's primary health care services.

"We don't know yet what failed," he was quoted by the Guardian as saying. "We're investigating the mechanism of infection."


"Air traffic is the driver," warns Professor Alessandro Vespignani of Northeastern University in Boston...predicting where the virus will spread...

There is a 50 per cent chance a traveller carrying the disease could touch down in the UK by October 24, a team of U.S. researchers have predicted.

Using Ebola spread patterns and airline traffic data they have calculated the odds of the virus spreading across the world.

They estimate there is a 75 per cent chance Ebola will reach French shores by October 24.

And Belgium has a 40 per cent chance of seeing the disease arrive on its territory, while Spain and Switzerland have lower risks of 14 per cent each.

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"while Spain and Switzerland have lower risks of 14 per cent each." -- well so much for that prediction, this is getting to look like the "Keystone Cops"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Cops ------ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m53jnZQ ... PyYKCk2sKT
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Maybe it is easier to get then thought? I don't think Spain is a classed as a third world country. First world countries should not worry? Really?

Want to buy some airline stock?

Hope I am wrong but this is beginning to look "interesting" and not in a nice way.
aedens
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Correct G, as we warned simply survive 2014 back in the forums.....

credit instruments will be hard pressed to justify valuations

no where is the new normal for growth for a few more quarters.....

Never under estimate life boat ethics as we discussed some time back.

If we can stabilize for now it would be third and long.

Like it or not Eco-Communalism movements add up to a sustainable world or globally coordinated efforts
and initiatives to result in a new sustainability paradigm.

No amount of warning can resonate with to many for now IMO.

While the haves and the have-nots struggle over the division of existing wealth, it is the business of the State to improve itself at the expense of both; it picks up the marbles
while the boys are fighting. That has been the story of men in organized society since the beginning.

Ecological Deficits will announce itself faster than paper tigers hubris.
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gerald
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The Keystone Cops approach to Ebola --

Tuesday Humor? Spain's Ebola Containment Protocols http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-0 ... -protocols

This kind of thing could be the straw that breaks the camels back.

The masses have lost a lot of trust and faith in the elites and government, mass threat of death could be the final straw.
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Let's consider the problem of large, complex systems.

The large systems I'm most familiar with are large, complex software
systems. When a system fails catastrophically, it's never because of
a single problem. It's almost always because of a "perfect storm" of
several smaller problems occurring simultaneously, in a way that no
one ever anticipated.

When a large software system is new, it's well understood by the
developers. They know what all the components do, and they know all
sorts of things that they should avoid doing, such as knowing that a
change to module A is going to affect a seemingly unrelated module B
in an obscure way.

Where do the smaller problems come from? As a large software system
ages, the components that are working satisfactorily are ignored.
("If it ain't broke, then don't fix it.") Programmers leave the
development group, replaced by new ones with no historic memory of how
the system works, and no understanding at all of the the components
that have been working flawlessly for years. Such a programmer might
change module A, having no idea that it will affect module B.

Most software systems are built with a lot of redundancy. A well
written module will handle problems like bad input data gracefully, by
detecting the bad data and signalling an error message or alert, and
then continue processing normally. So if a programmer changes module
A in a way that affects module B, module B might start generating
alerts and other processing normally. It's a very common phenomenon
that such alerts are simply ignored because (a) they're coming from
module B which no one understands anymore because it's worked fine for
years, and (b) module B seems to have no problem recovering from
whatever obscure problem is going on.

So over the years, these problems accumulate without anyone really
bothering to understand them. One day, several of these small
problems combine to cause a catastrophic error, as described above.
What's interesting about these situations is that in the post-mortem
analysis that's done to understand what happened, generally only one
of the small problems will be identified as the cause, and often some
individual will be assigned blame for the catastrophe because of that
one problem.

After such a catastrophe, the system software will often be replaced.
Sometimes there will be a new development effort to rewrite the
software, and at other times a new software package will be obtained
from an outside vendor. Very often, this just launches a new cycle.

The same kind of thing happens with a car or a large piece of
machinery. Over time, the different components wear out. You can
replace the components, but after a while, too many components wear
out. More likely, one component starts failing intermittently, and
works for a while, but also starts affecting other components, until a
system catastrophe occurs, and the machine breaks down completely. At
that point, the machine must be replaced.

The world is also a system, with many, many components, but we'll just
focus on three: the global political system, the global financial
system, and the global medical infrastructure.

Generational Dynamics tells us how the world works as a large, complex
system. During World War II, many of the world's components were
destroyed, and had to be rebuilt. The survivors of WW II created the
United Nations, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), and the World
Health Organization, corresponding respectively to the political,
financial, and medical components that I just mentioned.

As the generations of survivors of WW II have disappeared, all of
these components have seriously deteriorated.

The first component, the United Nations, is treated with contempt by
Russia and China, both of which are annexing other countries'
territories, with impunity. Russia has supplied Syria's Shia/Alawite
genocidal leader Bashar al-Assad with weapons and money, allowing him
to attempt to exterminate innocent Sunni protesters in 2011, finally
creating the Islamic State / of Iraq and Syria (IS or ISIS or ISIL),
which is overrunning Iraq and Syria. The fall to ISIS of either
Kobani in Syria or Baghdad in Iraq would significantly change the
region, and either or both are possible in the next days and weeks.
And the Gaza war, which is only in a temporary lull, has caused <#inc
ww2010.weblog.ref e140903 "a realignment of the entire Mideast."#>

The second component, the global financial system, is in serious
trouble, as the IMF itself has been saying. Europe's economy is
spiralling into deflation. America's stock market is in an enormous
bubble, and there could be a major crash at any time. And China is in
the largest real estate bubble in world history.

The third component, the medical infrastructure, is currently in the
worst shape of all because the Ebola virus is spreading out of
control, with no realistic hope of stopping it.

Each of these three components is self-correcting, but even so is in
serious trouble by itself. But now what's worse is that we're seeing
the problems in each component combine with problems in other
components. Since Ebola will continue spreading, it will cause
geopolitical problems everywhere in the world. Severe economic
problems are an inevitable outcome. Europe's deflationary spiral will
accelerate, and the bubbles in the US and China will burst.
gerald
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Hmmm
In Joseph A. Tainter's book "The Collapse of Complex Societies" there is an interesting thread to many societies collapse ( discounting environmental issues, drought, volcanoes, etc ) This thread is the role of the "elites". They being political, military, religious, administrative, etc. If the elites can't justify their costs to society, society rebels, and many times they destroy the elites and society. Even going to the extent of destroying temples and palaces and burying them.

Trust appears to be generally lost, almost globally, and Ebola, if it is as bad as it appears, could be he straw that destroys civilization. During the plague years people were walled up in their homes to protect society from the plague. The church lost power because the church could not protect people from the plague, so what good is the church? When people have the general threat of death hanging over them they will do uncommon things.

interesting times indeed
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speaking of software

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/04/us/bi ... urysm.html

Lobotomy drone processes the fact we are being dragged around by the nose by idiots who think the
jahad pop up groups are organized. Taxpayers are idiots funding these mic demoncrats and replizards for hire.

For three years, the US, along with the Gulf states and Turkey, poured billions into “opposition” groups, supposedly to unnamed “moderates,” but in reality to Al Qaeda-linked Sunni groups such as al-Nusra and ISIS to spearhead a sectarian war. The US, Turkey and Jordan have operated a base in Jordan where US instructors trained dozens of ISIS members. In an article last year, the New York Times confirmed that the CIA assisted Arab governments and Turkey by airlifting weaponry to these groups in Jordan and Turkey. TheGuardian reported last March that British and French instructors were also involved.

Other ISIS members were trained near Incirlik Air Base near Adana, Turkey, where US forces are based. After completing their training, they went to Syria and later Iraq. Following the overthrow of the Gaddafi regime, the CIA used the US consulate in Benghazi as a transit base for weaponry, Islamist fighters and cash to Syria, until it was attacked on September 11, 2012 by Islamist militias in a “blowback” operation that killed the US ambassador and three consular staffers.

Sponsored noske democides and its that simple. I would make no mistake about that. These people are sickened and putrid to the core.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07 ... s-j30.html

Tough going for the tossed under the bus fudge packers.

As for the IMF they stated over three percent growth this year.... Facades run by maniacs. When the MIC shoots Lew wake me up.

Lifeboat ethics no more no less http://www.people.eku.edu/davisb/Africa/lifeboat.htm

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... marks.html
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gerald
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"We Can't Exclude The Possibility That Ebola Can Spread Through The Air," Expert Warns
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-0 ... pert-warns

Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus, and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study of Ebola's transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters..."We just don't have the data to exclude it."

What Bailey learned from the episode informs his suspicion that the current strain of Ebola afflicting humans might be spread through tiny liquid droplets propelled into the air by coughing or sneezing.

"We know for a fact that the virus occurs in sputum and no one has ever done a study [disproving that] coughing or sneezing is a viable means of transmitting," he said. Unqualified assurances that Ebola is not spread through the air, Bailey said, are "misleading."
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BUT WE HAVE TRUST ---- RIGHT?
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As The LA Times reports, officials continue to stress how hard it is to get infected by Ebola...

"Ebola is not transmitted by the air. It is not an airborne infection," said Dr. Edward Goodman of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, where the Liberian patient remains in critical condition.

...Public health officials have voiced similar assurances, saying Ebola is spread only through physical contact with a symptomatic individual or their bodily fluids.
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I don't think people are going to forget Ebola as an issue. If it is spread in the air in tight quarters, trust maybe lost, what next?
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