27-Sep-14 World View -- WHO: Unprecedented emergencies

[NoOneImportant]

On the first link: my mistake, It was the Dr. Rrima Truth link that I could not get to, tried it several times, and "adjusted" it a couple of times an did a search, but the search came up with a link that I didn't feel comfortable pursuing. Although the Western values YouTube video was also quite good.

[gerald]

On the first link: my mistake, It was the Dr. Rrima Truth link that I could not get to, tried it several times, and "adjusted" it a couple of times an did a search, but the search came up with a link that I didn't feel comfortable pursuing. Although the Western values YouTube video was also quite good.

Regarding the nano silver concept, I have come across it before, many years ago. The "alternative medical literature" thinks and has "studies" showing that it has "validity". The approved pharmaceutical literature says it is dangerous and hokum. One of the issues "maybe" is that nano silver, if it is effective, can't be patented, is relatively inexpensive and could/would cut into the pharmaceutical industry's profits. In this same light, aspirin, some have said, should be a prescribed medication and not an over the counter medication because of its many medicinal properties. But it can't be a prescribed medication because it has been around so long and is readily available and therefore can't be patented.

Regarding nano silver -- the truth? hmmm

[NoOneImportant]

There is merit to the argument of the lapsing of any patentable treatment for compounds of silver. To that end Sulfa antibiotics are prescribed infrequently, even though bacteria have difficulty developing a resistance to sulfur based compounds, as all patent rights have expired, and the sulfur compounds are quite cheap to make, and thus, unfortunately for the manufacturer, they carry little associated profitability. That is in spite of the fact that sulfa antibiotics may be taken for extended periods -- months -- and they are not prescribed even though they are highly effective against a broad spectrum of bacteria -- but not virus.

I have several friends who swear by by colloidal silver... but I am split. I did a bit of looking about a year ago -- I spent several days browsing --, and taken in excess it -- colloidal silver -- can turn the skin, and whites of the eyes permanently gray (the color of silver oxide). I know that silver came into common use for table utensils ostensibly because using silver items, even though they might be cleaned in less than potable water, caused no ill health effects. Silver has long been objectively recognized as a serious bactericide, with Silvidene ointment -- a prescription silver compound -- being one of the primary medications used to treat bacterial infections in burn patients, and compounds of silver being long established, and recognized as highly effective topical antiseptic/antifungals - personally verified by me when investigating topical antiseptics.

My skepticism comes from a couple of different directions. One friend gave a demo of making "home brew" colloidal silver. He bought this small battery powered box, and spaced a .9999% pure silver wire between the the two electrodes coming out of the box, and immersed the electrodes into a small vile of distilled water with a bit of salt for conductivity. He timed the operation, and visually you could see the gray cloud emanating from the silver wire into the water. After some given time he declared that the small vile now contained some xx parts per million concentration of colloidal silver. I know enough chemistry that the transfer of silver ions from the wire into solution is dependent upon the integral of the current over time, and none of that was taking place in this demo. Further there are two issues, one is dissolved silver, and the other is particulate silver in suspension - and they are not the same.

Now, admitting my shortcomings, that it's been more than a bit since I took Chemistry, and Calculus in college; so I didn't want to spend a couple of weeks coming up to speed on my chem, and calc to be able to determine to my satisfaction how much current is required to transfer enough pure silver from a wire of a given surface area into solution of a given volume of water, so that I was comfortable that I might know the concentration of silver in a given volume of water to obtain a known concentration of silver in parts per million (ppm). So I let the problem go. I did, however, visit a number of sites that purported to sell various concentrations of colloidal silver. Only one site acknowledged the electrochemical nature of the reaction necessary to get silver into solution in water. That site made no attempt to convey the process, much like the others they simply said: give us some cash, and we'll sell you this brown bottle of colloidal silver of concentration xxx ppm. No regulation, no verification, nothing... just their word. For me to know, I would have to find a chemical lab with a gas chromatograph, and pay to have the concentration verified. Not an impossible task, but not something that I wanted to pursue... so I dropped colloidal silver in favor of Mexican antibiotics. Better the devil that you know, rather than the devil you don't know.

[gerald]

NoOneImportant --Very interesting

As to colloidal silver I have no opinion. ---Maybe yes maybe no.

However as a side note I have two personal medical experiences.

First.-- As an almost 70 year old, I had a blood test for PSA levels ( for prostate ) It was elevated and it was recommended that I have a biopsy, ( I can think of better things to do - not good ) It showed no problem but it was recommended that it be watched and if needed more aggressive action could taken ( personally, not desirable ). Since I am into alternative "things" I learned that eating apricot pits which contain organic cyanide can reverse or prevent cancer. So I began a regime of six apricot pits a day ( more then six is toxic)
A year later my blood test showed my PSA was almost normal. -- hmmm

Second -- From the twilight zone. About 20 years ago I sustained an injury while involve in a building reconstruction. A nail went through my right foot , It was pulled out and I bleed profusely but other wise no problem, hurt to walk for a few days, but no big deal.

About ten years later walking on my right foot became progressively difficult and painful.
I contemplated surgery, from others I learned surgery can be the wrong move.

So I tried the unapproved approach first, by piecing the unacceptable information together. I went to the big island of Hawaii ( the major up welling of energy on earth -see sacred geometry -- the tetrahedron and the sphere ) and used a tuning fork tuned to the Earth's harmonic applied to various acupuncture points, three times a day, and after one week my pain and walking problems we gone and have not returned.

Disease is suppose to be an imbalance in the bodies energy structure. ( from the alternative literature )

Personally, medicine has a long way to go.

cheers

[NoOneImportant]

No contest, doctors are not far removed from shamens and witch doctors. Their approach is that if you don't die immediately it must be okay. It's only recently that medicine has come be believe in the degenerative effects of certain activities.

[NoOneImportant]

Now, Gerald, having denigrated the entire medical community above, what other objective rational method is there for decision making, other than to quantify and qualify before making a decision. All other methods consist of: "... because I said so", or irrational bumbling through life, proceeding from one bruise to another, never having any idea why life is so difficult -- much like Obama.

Now, while doctors have no idea about too much, they generally beat the next best option, which is to listen to those who know absolutely nothing about virtually everything. Part of the difficulty with the medical community is that their legal monopoly permits them an unwarranted, and insufferable arrogance and creates in them an almost complete absence of humility. It's almost as if they really did believe that they were immortal, and as such were impervious to restrictions of common mortality -- that they really did believe that they too were not inextricably headed to the grave; a belief that only serves to highlight their dreadful flaws, fallibility, and arrogance.

[gerald]

Now, Gerald, having denigrated the entire medical community above, what other objective rational method is there for decision making, other than to quantify and qualify before making a decision. All other methods consist of: "... because I said so", or irrational bumbling through life, proceeding from one bruise to another, never having any idea why life is so difficult -- much like Obama.

Now, while doctors have no idea about too much, they generally beat the next best option, which is to listen to those who know absolutely nothing about virtually everything. Part of the difficulty with the medical community is that their legal monopoly permits them an unwarranted, and insufferable arrogance and creates in them an almost complete absence of humility. It's almost as if they really did believe that they were immortal, and as such were impervious to restrictions of common mortality -- that they really did believe that they too were not inextricably headed to the grave; a belief that only serves to highlight their dreadful flaws, fallibility, and arrogance.

Yes, that is an interesting problem. I don't want to give the impression that the entire medical and pharmaceutical community are scam artists and profiteers, that is not true. ( yet has some truth ) For I do seek and accept medical assistance when needed. But I like to know " cause and effects " of such needs and do not blindly follow "orders".

The medical issue illustrates part of humanity's problem, - lack of knowledge, limited individual abilities ( we can't be and know everything ) need to be part of something as followers or leaders, etc. This gives us a very clouded and limited view of "reality" and its various interrelated parts. Coupled with the "fact" that when we believe something we are resistant to change and want to keep what we have. Also many like to believe that things can be controlled, and when many come across "things " we can't control we like to minimize or deny their influence-- A very complicated circumstance.

As an example.

In my above post the "twilight zone" medical experience I mention sacred geometry. I find it very interesting. Where one places Sacred Geometry in the grand scheme of things I don't know, but somehow I think it is important. Briefly and crudely a comment. If one inscribes a tetrahedron inside a sphere so that an apex of the tetrahedron is at say at the south pole of the sphere the base of the tetrahedron will contact the sphere at approximately 19 degrees north latitude. The approximate location of the big Island of Hawaii the largest almost continuously active volcano on Earth. ( in geology the Hawaii volcano is in a class by it self ). It is interesting to note that the largest "volcanoes" on Mars, Venus, The red spot of Jupiter, The dark spot of Neptune, and the two bands of greatest solar activity are at about 19 degrees North or South latitude. Major upwellings of energy. If you inscribe two tetrahedrons one apex at the north pole and the other at the south pole and look at them from the equator you will see the "Star of David" It is said the human energy structure is the merkaba or the rotating Star of David, and when ones energy structure is not in balance one develops disease ---hmmm

[NoOneImportant]

Gerald wrote:

Yes, that is an interesting problem. I don't want to give the impression that the entire medical and pharmaceutical community are scam artists and profiteers, that is not true. ( yet has some truth ) For I do seek and accept medical assistance when needed. But I like to know " cause and effects " of such needs and do not blindly follow "orders".

The medical issue illustrates part of humanity's problem, - lack of knowledge, limited individual abilities ( we can't be and know everything ) need to be part of something as followers or leaders, etc. This gives us a very clouded and limited view of "reality" and its various interrelated parts. Coupled with the "fact" that when we believe something we are resistant to change and want to keep what we have. Also many like to believe that things can be controlled, and when many come across "things " we can't control we like to minimize or deny their influence-- A very complicated circumstance.

Yep, agreed.


Gerald wrote:

As an example.

In my above post the "twilight zone" medical experience I mention sacred geometry. I find it very interesting. Where one places Sacred Geometry in the grand scheme of things I don't know, but somehow I think it is important. Briefly and crudely a comment. If one inscribes a tetrahedron inside a sphere so that an apex of the tetrahedron is at say at the south pole of the sphere the base of the tetrahedron will contact the sphere at approximately 19 degrees north latitude. The approximate location of the big Island of Hawaii the largest almost continuously active volcano on Earth. ( in geology the Hawaii volcano is in a class by it self ). It is interesting to note that the largest "volcanoes" on Mars, Venus, The red spot of Jupiter, The dark spot of Neptune, and the two bands of greatest solar activity are at about 19 degrees North or South latitude. Major upwellings of energy. If you inscribe two tetrahedrons one apex at the north pole and the other at the south pole and look at them from the equator you will see the "Star of David" It is said the human energy structure is the merkaba or the rotating Star of David, and when ones energy structure is not in balance one develops disease ---hmmm

And while I might not subscribe to this belief. I might attempt to verify what you say, but it hurts no one for you to hold the belief illustrated, as you are the only "victim" of its consequences should you be wrong -- much like Steve Jobs, -- so long as you don't attempt to impress it on anyone else.

[gerald]

NoOneImportant -- I do not know what is true, --- I only think I know what I experienced ( I may give my Ideas to others, but expect no acceptance, I do not preach, for one must seek one's own way )--- it is kind of an Oriental thing as to what is or is not.
We live in a hall of mirrors and we seek our own way and in our own fashion.

cheers

[Tom Mazanec]

A worst case scenario: Collapse.
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/10/e ... lapse.html