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Investments, gold, currencies, surviving after a financial meltdown
aedens
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7-Year Cycles That Crush The Uninformed:

1. unbridled enthusiasm
2. mass confusion
3. sudden disillusionment
4. search for the guilty
5. punish the innocent <--- http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2016/03/08 ... e-sanders/
6. rewarding of the non-participants <---- we are here again http://www.investors.com/politics/viewp ... jackboots/
7. see step one

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-0 ... e-got-here
http://gdxforum.com/forum/search.php?ke ... sf=msgonly

I agree Vin. Intrinsic values few understand. You guys are correct.... http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... grad#p8725
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The Emperor Hadrian (AD 76 - 138) travelled to Britain in around the year 120 to review the situation in the province, at the north-western edge of his vast empire. He quickly became aware of various difficulties. Not only were there the usual problems of provincial government and the struggle to maintain discipline and morale among the garrison stationed here, there were also real difficulties with the tribes in the north of Britain, who continued to raid the province, causing havoc and disrupting trade. http://gdxforum.com/forum/search.php?ke ... sf=msgonly
http://www.open.edu/openlearn/history-t ... rians-wall
Hadrian was a very able man: well-educated, an artist and an architect as well as a decorated soldier. He evidently had such a good memory that he could remember the name of every officer in his legions. He was also a clear thinker and a formidable strategist. He realised that if Rome was to enjoy the extensive conquests of his predecessor Trajan (AD53 - 117) http://www.roman-empire.net/highpoint/trajan.html they would need to consolidate their gains rather than continue to expand.
Emperor Hadrian began his rule in 117 A.D. and started a new strategy for the Roman empire of consolidating its borders and stopping expansion. To initiate this defensive posture, Hadrian began his reign with a tour of the European provinces to complete defensive fortifications. Whereas in the Eastern half of the Empire, the borders where protected by the natural boundaries of mountains and desert, the German and Northern English frontier had no natural boundaries to keep out migrating and warring tribes. The solution in Germany was a series of forts and fortifications, called limes, which used timber from the great central European forests and ditches to prevent tribal incursions. In contrast, large forests did not exist in Northern England and a great wall was built using stone, hence the title Hadrian’s Wall, which, as Hadrian’s biographer stated, was “to divide the barbarians from the Romans”(Durant, 417). Emperor Hadrian inspected the fortifications himself during his tour of Britannia around 123 A.D., garrisoned several legions at the Wall, and instigated a period of peace in Britannia that lasted over 200 years.
As a result of Hadrian’s Wall dividing a Romanized South from the “barbaric” North, the economies of the two lands were set on divergent paths. Before the Roman invasion, the island of Britain was populated by isolated tribes who traded amongst each other using a barter system. Fearing attacks be neighboring tribes, the tribes never built roads: a fact that seriously hampered trade. For Britannia, the situation changed along several fronts as a direct result of Roman occupation. First, the Britons accepted Roman currency, which made trade easier and more prevalent. The Romans built an extensive road system and legal system to protect property; both factors increased trade. Finally, business and trade usually flourishes when there is stability, peace, and order, and the Romans provided all of these things.

eastern scope https://books.google.com.au/books?id=IA ... &q&f=false

The contrast between Christian and Druidic symbols is identified by the painting of a red cross over a stone within the Christian family's huts.

Christian fish symbolism, including the custom of eating fish on a Friday, is believed to derive directly from the Jewish tradition, which in turn probably drew this element from Syrian belief. The fish and the fisherman were both intimately related symbolically from the earliest days – the first Avatar of Vishnu the Creator was a fish, both the Buddha and Jesus are referred to as fishermen, the Babylonians had a fisher-god and the Fisher King is the central figure in the grail legend. http://www.druidry.org/druid-way/teachi ... nimal-lore
When the Druid today seeks the Salmon of Wisdom they are connecting not only to a tradition of the ancient Druids, but also to an understanding that is rooted deep in the collective awareness of all humanity.
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“We consider it to be absolutely impermissible to make public statements containing threats to deliver some ‘preventive nuclear strikes’ against opponents,” said the statement, as translated by the Russian TASS news agency. “Pyongyang should be aware of the fact that in this way the DPRK [North Korea] will become fully opposed to the international community and will create international legal grounds for using military force against itself in accordance with the right of a state to self-defense enshrined in the United Nations Charter.”

North Korea’s sabre-rattling has reached a fever pitch in recent months. The pariah state carried out its fourth nuclear test in January and launched a rocket in violation of international sanctions in February. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper warned Congress in early February that North Korea had restarted its plutonium reactor and was poised to produce weapons-grade nuclear material within weeks.

In response to North Korean provocations, the United Nations security council voted unanimously last Thursday to pass a new round of sanctions against the country.


Ka Thunk! So we are all awaiting the trigger. It seems deep ST is pushing on all sides trying to get a break.

I am not convinced Au will save us nor Pb but I say some garden seeds might be nice.

Gartman is going long Au values in Yen/EUR so since he is perfect anti indicator either Au goes lower or EUR/Yen goes higher. Since he changes his mind each day it is hard to say but since I am not a trader I just watch from the sidelines for the massive pile up and hope the tire does not land on me.

AI experts had previously thought that it would take another ten years of development for computers to get good enough at the game to beat a human. But then AlphaGo beat the European champion last year, and now appears to be on track for beating Lee, the world's best Go player. Cool I want one!
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So MD and ECB did nothing in the end. WIll be interesting to see how it all plays out since I would think he will feel forced to continue so probably go more and more neg.

My coworker called his local bank manager and asked about withdrawing from his his "risk fund", and put the money in his savings account. He was talked into this common stock fond late last year. I told him then you are not buying shares now are you crazy? Since then he lost maybe only 6%. Now i also told him i was buying gold and silver at the time. A few days ago he asked me about gold and stocks. I showed him a 10 year chart of SP500 drew a curve at the top and said: see its rolling over, its all fueled by new debt since the last crises and its now about to crash.

"Wow i see maybe i should call my bank and withdraw my "risk funds", so he did. And what did his local bank manager say when he said he like to close his "risk fund" (he call it his risk fund)? Son we don't have a risk fund you must have made a mistake, do you mean your stock fund? Yes!.. Ohh its all ok i see you already have a lot of money in your savings account you surely don't need more, you should rather add to it. But i have seen a chart and it looks like stocks are rolling over! You really should come by my office, and i will show you some other charts, you know stocks are for the long term." My coworker hang up the phone and told me he was not allowed to sell....

Poor guy he trust his local bank, but is slowly waking up. I will now leave him alone for a while, and try not to talk to much about all thats hitting the fan this days.


According to a study released by Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Gimenez on Monday, the waters of Biscayne Bay measured 215 times the level of radioactive tritium as is found in normal ocean water. Tritium is a radioactive isotope traceable to nuclear plant cooling tower operations. In this case, the leak appears to be emanating from the aging canals in the Turkey Point Nuclear Generating Station located nearby.

And from Japan
The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) has made some progress, such as removing hundreds of spent fuel roads in one damaged building. But the technology needed to establish the location of the melted fuel rods in the other three reactors at the plant has not been developed. The fuel rods melted through their containment vessels in the reactors, and no one knows exactly where they are now. This part of the plant is so dangerous to humans, Tepco has been developing robots, which can swim under water and negotiate obstacles in damaged tunnels and piping to search for the melted fuel rods. But as soon as they get close to the reactors, the radiation destroys their wiring and renders them useless, causing long delays, Masuda said. Each robot has to be custom-built for each building.“It takes two years to develop a single-function robot,” Masuda said.

So what I don't see many discussing are ageing facilities plus the need to keep cooling running 24/7. If the infrastructure in US collapses (or gets pulsed) then you could have a lot of Fukushima's all over the place. Flint would start looking pretty clean by comparison.
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MarvyGuy wrote:So MD and ECB did nothing in the end. WIll be interesting to see how it all plays out since I would think he will feel forced to continue so probably go more and more neg.

My coworker called his local bank manager and asked about withdrawing from his his "risk fund", and put the money in his savings account. He was talked into this common stock fond late last year. I told him then you are not buying shares now are you crazy? Since then he lost maybe only 6%. Now i also told him i was buying gold and silver at the time. A few days ago he asked me about gold and stocks. I showed him a 10 year chart of SP500 drew a curve at the top and said: see its rolling over, its all fueled by new debt since the last crises and its now about to crash.

"Wow i see maybe i should call my bank and withdraw my "risk funds", so he did. And what did his local bank manager say when he said he like to close his "risk fund" (he call it his risk fund)? Son we don't have a risk fund you must have made a mistake, do you mean your stock fund? Yes!.. Ohh its all ok i see you already have a lot of money in your savings account you surely don't need more, you should rather add to it. But i have seen a chart and it looks like stocks are rolling over! You really should come by my office, and i will show you some other charts, you know stocks are for the long term." My coworker hang up the phone and told me he was not allowed to sell....

Poor guy he trust his local bank, but is slowly waking up. I will now leave him alone for a while, and try not to talk to much about all thats hitting the fan this days.


According to a study released by Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Gimenez on Monday, the waters of Biscayne Bay measured 215 times the level of radioactive tritium as is found in normal ocean water. Tritium is a radioactive isotope traceable to nuclear plant cooling tower operations. In this case, the leak appears to be emanating from the aging canals in the Turkey Point Nuclear Generating Station located nearby.

And from Japan
The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) has made some progress, such as removing hundreds of spent fuel roads in one damaged building. But the technology needed to establish the location of the melted fuel rods in the other three reactors at the plant has not been developed. The fuel rods melted through their containment vessels in the reactors, and no one knows exactly where they are now. This part of the plant is so dangerous to humans, Tepco has been developing robots, which can swim under water and negotiate obstacles in damaged tunnels and piping to search for the melted fuel rods. But as soon as they get close to the reactors, the radiation destroys their wiring and renders them useless, causing long delays, Masuda said. Each robot has to be custom-built for each building.“It takes two years to develop a single-function robot,” Masuda said.

So what I don't see many discussing are ageing facilities plus the need to keep cooling running 24/7. If the infrastructure in US collapses (or gets pulsed) then you could have a lot of Fukushima's all over the place. Flint would start looking pretty clean by comparison.
If you look at all of the reactors around the world and the issues that need to be addressed to safely decommission them ( putting on my tinfoil hat) one would think it was part of a plan to destroy humanity or at least set it back. - you think?
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10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually them be associated with the original charge and dismissed.

24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their destruction of their character, or merely by intimidation or other threats.

http://tumblr.investingchannel.com/post ... near-miami

Came forward in full force calling for the Environmental Protection Agency to intervene in the matter.

Good luck, they will destroy you.

21. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled.

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/sponsored_article1.cfm as we noted before
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The center of the dispute is the Canadian lumber industry is unfairly subsidized by federal and provincial governments, as most timber in Canada is owned by the provincial governments. This conflict was given rise in the early 1980s

Context: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:35 pm
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Americans are still painfully clueless about needs to there economic survival anymore. Ask Pelosi or there mindless and clueless hordes and ilk about not in my back yard semantics bent on emotional blackmail and not fact of law or contract or proper funding. Yes some Company's are ruthless and follow the political chain to its ultimate conclusion of special interest's. Rent dissipation issue's in a mixed market is life or death now and the corruption will envelope more very soon it appears to wasted capital. As we are the Internal socialist's have destroyed more economic security than the free world competition had ever dreamed of which is only brought up to pacify the simple of mind dominating the population.

Mr Obama nailed there ass to a board and each party cannot see the writing on the wall about fiscal sanity or walk out the room given avarice unabated with that board nailed to there ass with mind numbing greed. Currently the Fed still spews debt is wealth, I rest my case on these insular realities of elitist rambling.

I consider TPP will show if the cracks where addressed. Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:35 pm

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/obama-trud ... -1.3485521

Keynes and Hayek only differed in the timing to preserve or eliminate "legal" cartel players and the definition of moral hazard.

Let us not be naive on the preference .gov exports list.
Keynes also made the following clear and unequivocal declarations:
I believe the future lies with,
1.State trading for commodities;
2.International cartels for necessary manufactures; and
3.Quantitative import restrictions for nonessential manufactures.
Yet all these future instrumentalities for orderly economic life in the future you seek to outlaw.

In the end notes to his 1936 ‘General Theory’, John Maynard Keynes said that he looked forward to the “Euthanasia of the Rentier”, to be replaced by “communal saving by the agency of the state. Today as we forwarded the automation to eliminate work. The stipend has increased since the asset stripping of the States has not declined since 17 million food stamp users in 2000 has increased In 2009 nearly 39 million people were on food stamps, and the number rose to 44 million in 2010. The last numbers I seen was 49 million.

http://www.infowars.com/fbi-instructs-h ... -students/
Snowflakes are special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSdkPMc7aEo

Citizens of the United States do not directly elect the president or the vice president; instead, these voters directly elect designated intermediaries called "electors," who almost always have pledged to vote for particular president. Ask Al how that worked out.
Mormons And Bushes pushing for Ted Cruz because he is there last hope. Not my words just the obvious.
Don't fret Europe, you'll soon be filled up to your Arschloch with Muslims who will have you under Sharia law into 2038. Bonhoeffer warned you about the cost of cheap faith.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-1 ... -continues

Frenzy is picking up, full retard appears to be moving in on many fronts.
I assumed the exhaustion rally was over.

Behold the Alinsky hypocritical Left. Those brave altruistic souls who champion the rights of all men.

* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
* RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/03/trump ... protesters

I was a democrat but Jack bought the farm and they promised to keep them voting for 200 years....

Anyways page four conveys what we are when we relent, as the man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either in any age as B. Franklin knew over all courses of time. A product we are seen today to be abandoned since the delusion was a coveted educational choice selected and crafted with extreme care. To be refined to simplicity is only natures affairs. To never have it available without debt bondage is not excusable either. No expectations to the true cost of a servile nature will never be missed either as we witnessed in Chicago. Information cares little at all about expectations and results we see today.
https://archive.org/stream/publicrelati ... 4/mode/2up

This I believe still rings true Since Mom cannot speak for herself now with the long good by, anyways from a short segment of FDR who she believed in - January 6, 1941

A free nation has the right to expect full cooperation from all groups. A free nation has the right to look to the leaders of business, of labor, and of agriculture to take the lead in stimulating effort, not among other groups but within their own groups.
The best way of dealing with the few slackers or trouble makers in our midst is, first, to shame them by patriotic example, and, if that fails, to use the sovereignty of Government to save Government.
As men do not live by bread alone, they do not fight by armaments alone. Those who man our defenses, and those behind them who build our defenses, must have the stamina and the courage which come from unshakable belief in the manner of life which they are defending. The mighty action that we are calling for cannot be based on a disregard of all things worth fighting for.
The Nation takes great satisfaction and much strength from the things which have been done to make its people conscious of their individual stake in the preservation of democratic life in America. Those things have toughened the fibre of our people, have renewed their faith and strengthened their devotion to the institutions we make ready to protect.
Certainly this is no time for any of us to stop thinking about the social and economic problems which are the root cause of the social revolution which is today a supreme factor in the world.
For there is nothing mysterious about the foundations of a healthy and strong democracy. The basic things expected by our people of their political and economic systems are simple. They are:

Equality of opportunity for youth and for others.
Jobs for those who can work.
Security for those who need it.
The ending of special privilege for the few.
The preservation of civil liberties for all.

The enjoyment of the fruits of scientific progress in a wider and constantly rising standard of living.
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