11-Feb-18 World View -- Syrian war escalates sharply, after Israel, Iran, Turkey and Russia all lose aircraft

[John]

11-Feb-18 World View -- Syrian war escalates sharply, after Israel, Iran, Turkey and Russia all lose aircraft


With defeat of ISIS, war escalates, and Syria becomes more fragmented and chaotic

** 11-Feb-18 World View -- Syrian war escalates sharply, after Israel, Iran, Turkey and Russia all lose aircraft
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e180211



Contents:
Israel's F-16 warplane shot down in aftermath of downing Iranian drone
Turkish helicopter shot down in Afrin, days after Russian warplane downed in Idlib
With defeat of ISIS, war escalates, and Syria becomes more fragmented and chaotic


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Syria, Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu,
Reuven Ben Shalom, Hossein Salami,
Iran, Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Hezbollah,
Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, HTS, Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Nusra Front,
Islamic State / of Iraq and Syria/Sham/the Levant, IS, ISIS, ISIL, Daesh,
Eastern Ghouta, Hama, Idlib, barrel bombs,
chlorine, ammonia, phosphorous, Sarin gas,
People’s Protection Units, YPG, Afrin, Manbij

[Guest]

Maybe one of our helicopters is gone, but they will pay for this. Not in kind, but so much more, because we are determined, and we believe we are superior. We will succeed in this as well.

Isn't the notion that "we believe we are superior" a common theme in almost all ethnic conflicts?

[FishbellykanakaDude]

Maybe one of our helicopters is gone, but they will pay for this. Not in kind, but so much more, because we are determined, and we believe we are superior. We will succeed in this as well.

Isn't the notion that "we believe we are superior" a common theme in almost all ethnic conflicts?

How can an ethnicity be superior?

(I have my own answer to that, but I'm after yours.)

Aloha!

[Cynic Hero]

Maybe one of our helicopters is gone, but they will pay for this. Not in kind, but so much more, because we are determined, and we believe we are superior. We will succeed in this as well.

Isn't the notion that "we believe we are superior" a common theme in almost all ethnic conflicts?

How can an ethnicity be superior?

(I have my own answer to that, but I'm after yours.)

Aloha!

Face it selfish boomer; Xers and millies actually care about america's traditions, we're not boomers we don't merely regard the nation as a vehicle to implement their proposed spiritual evolution of humanity. We want diplomatic relations with the Assads and Milosevics of the world. Boomers don't believe in freedom they believe in Human rights tyranny. Selfish boomers better leave Syria and Iran alone, the way anything otherwise (intervention into Syria and/or Iran) is acceptable to Xers and Millies is if those countries actually attack the US.

[Guest]

Isn't the notion that "we believe we are superior" a common theme in almost all ethnic conflicts?

How can an ethnicity be superior?

(I have my own answer to that, but I'm after yours.)

Aloha!

Face it selfish boomer; Xers and millies actually care about america's traditions, we're not boomers we don't merely regard the nation as a vehicle to implement their proposed spiritual evolution of humanity. We want diplomatic relations with the Assads and Milosevics of the world. Boomers don't believe in freedom they believe in Human rights tyranny. Selfish boomers better leave Syria and Iran alone, the way anything otherwise (intervention into Syria and/or Iran) is acceptable to Xers and Millies is if those countries actually attack the US.

I'm an Xer and I don't want any kind of relationship with Milosevic and Assad types. I want them dead.

[Guest]

Maybe one of our helicopters is gone, but they will pay for this. Not in kind, but so much more, because we are determined, and we believe we are superior. We will succeed in this as well.

Isn't the notion that "we believe we are superior" a common theme in almost all ethnic conflicts?

How can an ethnicity be superior?

(I have my own answer to that, but I'm after yours.)

Aloha!

You're dense one, aren't you? What the 'Guest' was referring to was what thugs said; not what he believed.

[devorah]

Well kids, I'm a geezer of Greatest Generation parents and those Judeo/Christian values. Mr. Basement Dweller Fish's answers are out of his other mysterious place.
Assad has no respect for any lives and Erdogan only for selected Egyptians. ISIS is NOT defeated, just regrouping. I'm wondering if various hue-d neck scarves or chest bands are issued each day to identify sides.
Only one jihadist puppet and his master knew the purpose of the Iran deal. Hillary and deep state were too busy screwing up Libya and helping flood Europe with migrant boat lifts.
I sent John's post to Trump suggesting he read, ponder and emulate Bibi's governing style. Granted DJT will need to drop showmanship and come up with authoritative rhetoric and matching ACTIONS.
A welcome change that would be...and a surprise. (Think budget hand shakes with turtle and upchuck.)

[FishbellykanakaDude]

Isn't the notion that "we believe we are superior" a common theme in almost all ethnic conflicts?

How can an ethnicity be superior?

(I have my own answer to that, but I'm after yours.)

Aloha!

You're dense one, aren't you? What the 'Guest' was referring to was what thugs said; not what he believed.

You're quite right. What "supremacists" DO always say is that they are superior, somehow.

My question was how a "supremacist" claims that his "ethnicity" is superior.

You don't have to BE a supremacist to answer that question. I was interested in his (the "guest") opinion as to how a supremacist makes that claim.

So, what is YOUR opinion as to how a supremacist makes that claim?


My opinion on the matter is that a supremacist simply "dogmatically" makes that claim, and the simple fact that he DOES make that claim instantly labels him as an "ethnic supremacist", which also instantly invalidates any "evidence" he makes in support of his supremacist claim.

In other words, since it is impossible (aka just silly and invalid) to claim that an ethnicity can be superior to any other ethnicity, the very ACT of claiming such an absurd "thing" reduces the claimants credibility to zero.


I realize that "conversation" is a foreign concept for folks like yourself (and the other "guest"), as the only legitimate form of discourse for you guys is shouting over your erstwhile "conversation partner" so as to convince the surrounding crowd that you're "correct" by being the noisiest and most "emotionally invested" and therefore "the winner".

..but do "folks like you" realize that that is the defining modus operandi of the "critical theory" crowd, which IS your supposed "enemy"?

This inability, or unwillingness, to have actual conversation with people is what defines one as "the irrational enemy".

Are you your own enemy?


Aloha gangies! <shaka nui!>

[Guest]

My opinion on the matter is that a supremacist simply "dogmatically" makes that claim, and the simple fact that he DOES make that claim instantly labels him as an "ethnic supremacist", which also instantly invalidates any "evidence" he makes in support of his supremacist claim.

In other words, since it is impossible (aka just silly and invalid) to claim that an ethnicity can be superior to any other ethnicity, the very ACT of claiming such an absurd "thing" reduces the claimants credibility to zero.

I have a question: How can making a claim possibly invalidate any evidence for that claim?

You can say that there is no evidence that one ethnic group is inferior to another. You can say that the evidence is insufficient. You can even say that the evidence does not exist. But surely the claim is absurd because the evidence does not support it, not the other way round.

[Guest]

Fishbelly, you are a hypocrite. You also make wild assumptions about people based on a single rebuke. You are the pathetic SJW type who thinks they know everything, including what everyone else thinks. You infer too much from far too little. On top of that, you write way too much. Just get to the point. (if you have one.) You should write for The Guardian.