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Random Analyst wrote: > Technically, most investors who follow the Dow Theory are still
> long the stock market. The same goes for technicians who use the
> S&P 500 Index 200-day moving average as a buy-sell level. On
> Friday, the S&P 500 closed just 3 points above its 200-day moving
> average of 2583, and just 5 points above its early-February low of
> 2581 (top of this page).

> It would be a mistake to ignore these looming technical
> sell-signals for a very simple reason: many traders, investors,
> and speculators follow these signals, and then act upon them when
> the signals are triggered. All it will take is one more day of
> moderate declines for several technical systems to reverse from
> bullish to bearish. And when that happens, considerable selling
> will develop from market-timers.


Higgenbotham wrote: > What happens next depends on how you think the market works
> nowadays. I see 3 possible outcomes:

> 1. The market is manipulated. The "gnomes" employed by the Fed use
> unlimited electronic cash to buy enough futures to hold the market
> above these levels.

> 2. The market is manipulated. The "gnomes" employed by the Fed
> make sure the market falls through these key levels so as to cause
> a mini panic, then step in (together with their fellow "Deep
> State" operatives like Goldman Sachs) to buy panicked investors
> holdings and quickly drive the market to a new all time high,
> making a tidy profit for the US government and the big banks and
> investment houses.

> 3. The markets are free and not manipulated. The markets go
> through the key technical averages and support levels and crash.

> Would you like Door Number 1, 2, or 3?


The Random Analyst quote supports the scenario I was describing last
week. The market peaked on September 3, 1929, and then started
falling gradually and continually, until there was a sharp panic on
October 28. The "one more day of moderate declines" could conceivably
be the trigger -- not for a crash, but for a panic.

The only differences between a "correction" and a "panic" are the size
of the fall and the public reaction. (Compare the public reaction to
last month's school shooting in Florida, versus other school
shootings. Saturday's march is the stuff of a panic.)
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Random Analyst wrote:From an international perspective, the breakdown below the early-February lows has already occurred, and markets are now well into the panic-phase of a crash.
I see confirmed panic everywhere except in the US stock market. I think we will find out this week whether the US stock market is being artificially held up or whether it is the last refuge and will join the rest of humanity.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Dow futures keep going up, now at +120.
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John wrote:Dow futures keep going up, now at +120.
I just went short the S&P futures at 2610 (currently 2612.50). If it can drop fast I'll put in a break even stop and hope for the best.
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You have a stomach made of steel.
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John wrote:You have a stomach made of steel.
I pulled out when it couldn't drop quickly. When I posted I was short 10 from 2609 and 10 from 2611.

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It could potentially drop hard when Europe opens, but I don't have enough conviction on that to hang around till the middle of the night.

Currently 2611 up 13.25.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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aeden wrote: Mid week H
This has been too well advertised, in my opinion. With the Internet, there is no retail trader alive who doesn't have the means to see the analogs to previous crashes. That's why I treaded very carefully tonight.

A good contrast to that is 1987 when Marty Zweig announced to the shocked panelists on Wall Street Week that he hadn't said anything up to that point, but he was looking for a crash. That would have been aired on Sunday and the market crashed the next day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MyToTwag34
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While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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yes

and https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default ... k=_fm4HuAk Mr. Bond

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2&start=15590#p38516 .9843% correct to date as of Friday.

As we can see, the analog is nearly perfect, with a 98% correlation. tyler

The best news is no one will pay attention until Mr. Bond decides.

Good Hunting another day H.
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aeden wrote:yes

and https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default ... k=_fm4HuAk Mr. Bond

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2&start=15590#p38516 .9843% correct to date as of Friday.

As we can see, the analog is nearly perfect, with a 98% correlation. tyler

The best news is no one will pay attention until Mr. Bond decides.

Good Hunting another day H.
I read today that somebody polled large investors on what the 10 year rate would need to be to get them out of stocks and into bonds. 3.6% was the consensus. However, that gets tricky for a couple reasons. First, how many run for the door sooner and, second, do they really do what they intend to do if it hits 3.6%.

But I think more than that, is the US viewed as a safe haven like it was in 2010 or just another market.

If it doesn't start crashing tonight, I'm shutting operations down once again. I'll let the trend followers take their chances.
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