Generational Dynamics World View News

[Guest]

Yes, I make this point to younger people from time to time. I was born in 1947 and grew up in Zimbabwe. Penicillin became available to the public in 1954 and before that ailments like pneumonia were a killer. You looked after your health more; like your mother putting you to bed when you had a cold, and your older relatives and people died younger. Life was less certain and death more common. It was life and will be life

Do you live in Zimbabwe now? Do they even have a functioning medical system now?

Zimbabwe is totally dysfunctional and very little in the way of imported supplies are available including medicine. Covid-19 combined with HIV rates, TB, and malaria is going to be devastating in Zimbabwe and other parts of Africa too.

Atleast they got "democracy" and got rid of the European oppressors right?

[John]

** 10-Mar-2020 World View: Wuhan Coronavirus Covid-19 transmission

On CNBC this morning, there was an interview with Michael Osterholm,
Director of University Of Minnesota Center For Infectious Disease
Research and Policy, in which he was critical of people who were
underestimating the potency of the Wuhan Coronavirus. Excerpts (my
transcription):

> "This virus is a highly infectious virus. There was a
> study released yesterday that showed people are highly infectious
> before they ever get sick, the virus level is over 1000 times
> higher in their throats than it is with SARS. And in a sense,
> this is just gonna keep spreading. We have to stop fooling people
> into thinking that this only by close contact or I have to be
> within two or three feet. We're gonna see much more transmission,
> and our job I think is to get the country through this -- is make
> sure that they understand is that there will be widespread
> transmission of this virus around the country and that what we
> have to do is keep people who are at high risk of having bad
> outcomes -- older, underlying health conditions -- from being
> exposed. ...

> We've really not set the agenda for the American public in a
> realistic way. Right now we're approaching this like it's a
> Washington DC blizzard -- for a couple of days we're shut down.
> This is actually a coronavirus winter, and we're in the first
> week. We're gonna see transmission for many, many more weeks to
> come. We have to prepare for that."

As usual these days, there's always something to laugh at. I live
near Kendall Square in Cambridge, where there are thousands of young
MIT students mixed in with old people, many of whom have lived there
for decades. I can hardly wait to see how the Cambridge police are
going to keep people like me from being exposed to the virus.

Nonetheless, Osterholm's highly pessimistic analysis is consistent
with the most pessimistic of all the hundreds of thousands or reports
that I've heard and read in the last few months.

As I'm typing this, I'm listening some financial analyst idiot saying
that the virus epidemic has already been resolved in China, and so all
we have to do is follow "the Chinese playbook," and the whole problem
will be resolved in America in a few weeks. This is what passes
for intelligent analysis on tv these days.

A lot of people on tv are saying the crisis should end in a few weeks
because of warmer spring and summer weather. I've been saying for
weeks that the experience in Singapore, which is right on the equator,
does not support that view. Here are some articles that discuss that
view:

-- Coronavirus ‘highly sensitive’ to high temperatures,
but don’t bank on summer killing it off, studies say
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science ... ank-summer
(SCMP, 8-Mar-2020)

-- WHO urges countries to make containing coronavirus 'highest
priority'
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN20T2BH
(Reuters, 6-Mar-2020)

According to these studies, the best we can hope for is that transmission
will slow down in the summer, but not stop. And anyway, the weather
will be cold again in the fall.

According to the World Health Organization:

> "We do not know yet what the activity or the behaviour
> of this virus will be in different climatic conditions. We have to
> assume that the virus will continue to have the capacity to
> spread.

> It is a false hope to say yes it will just disappear in
> summertime, like influenza virus. ... There is no evidence right
> now to suggest that that will happen."

The corollary is that there is no reason to believe that stock prices
have reached a bottom. A lot of investors are obviously living in a
dreamland, and at some point the truth will sink in that this crisis
will not be over until next year at the earliest, and that realization
will be an enormous shock to them, and may result in a full-scale
financial panic at that time.

P.S.: For those of you who enjoy thinking about apocalyptic scenarios
(and you know who you are), how about this one: Donald Trump and Joe
Biden are campaigning for president, and both of them die from Wuhan
Coronavirus this summer.

[Guest]

P.S.: For those of you who enjoy thinking about apocalyptic scenarios
(and you know who you are), how about this one: Donald Trump and Joe
Biden are campaigning for president, and both of them die from Wuhan
Coronavirus this summer.

There you go John, an excellent idea for a novel.

Would solve your money problem.

[Guest]

Do you live in Zimbabwe now? Do they even have a functioning medical system now?

Zimbabwe is totally dysfunctional and very little in the way of imported supplies are available including medicine. Covid-19 combined with HIV rates, TB, and malaria is going to be devastating in Zimbabwe and other parts of Africa too.

Atleast they got "democracy" and got rid of the European oppressors right?

A doctor speaking of the current novel virus mentioned that 20% of the adults under 50 in Kenya had AIDS. FFS. He mentioned that TB was out of conrol and largely incurable strains were circulating there and in other parts of black Africa (ahem, I mean 'sub-Saharan Africa) and that if the novel virus hot it it would be catastrophic. Ah, yeah. Well, at least their imperialist white masters won't be there to oppress them, but the whites will be the first ones they shout for when they are in trouble.

In 2003 Zimbabwe was going through hyperinflation and mass starvation. With skyrocketing AIDS rates, TB, cholera, and everything else, life expectancy fell to 36. That's right, 36. Well, that is until the black government threw 'racist' international the agency in charge if determining life expectancy out of the country. Now the Zimbabwean government claims life expectancy is 72 or something like that.

You got rid of white rule, so are you happy now?

Drop mic.

[John]

** 10-Mar-2020 World View: Zimbabwe life expectancy

> A doctor speaking of the current novel virus mentioned that 20% of
> the adults under 50 in Kenya had AIDS. FFS. He mentioned that TB
> was out of conrol and largely incurable strains were circulating
> there and in other parts of black Africa (ahem, I mean
> 'sub-Saharan Africa) and that if the novel virus hot it it would
> be catastrophic. Ah, yeah. Well, at least their imperialist white
> masters won't be there to oppress them, but the whites will be the
> first ones they shout for when they are in trouble.

> In 2003 Zimbabwe was going through hyperinflation and mass
> starvation. With skyrocketing AIDS rates, TB, cholera, and
> everything else, life expectancy fell to 36. That's right,
> 36. Well, that is until the black government threw 'racist'
> international the agency in charge if determining life expectancy
> out of the country. Now the Zimbabwean government claims life
> expectancy is 72 or something like that.

Zimbabwe's life expectancy crashed in the early 2000s because of the
democidal policies of Robert Mugabe. Mugabe, from the Shona tribe,
freely tortured, slaughtered, raped and jailed members of his hated
political oppoonents, the Nbdele tribe. This included Operation
Gukurahundi, the genocidal war crime that brought in North Korean
soldiers to help exterminate tens of thousands of civilians in the
hated Ndebele tribe in the early 1980s.

In the late 1990s, Mugabe started his indigenization program, where he
confiscated farms run by whites and gave them to his corrupt Shona
political cronies who didn't know how to run a farm. Thus, Zimbabwe
went from being the breadbasket of southern Africa to being an almost
total basket case. Unfortunately, this indigenization program is
still continuing, which is why Zimbabwe continues to be an ongoing
disaster.

Here's an article published in 2006:

-- Life expectancy / Zimbabweans have 'shortest lives'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4890508.stm
(BBC, 8-Apr-2006)

It gives the life expectancy for women at 34, and men at 37.

Since that time, the life expectancy has gradually increased
(presumably because Mugabe's corrupt Shona cronies may have learned a
little bit about farming), and it's now around 60.

** Zimbabwe Life Expectancy 1950-2020
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/Z ... expectancy

---- Related article:

** 18-Jan-19 World View -- Zimbabwe returns to violence of Mugabe era with police beatings and abductions
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e190118

[FishbellykanakaDude]

... P.S.: For those of you who enjoy thinking about apocalyptic scenarios
(and you know who you are), how about this one: Donald Trump and Joe
Biden are campaigning for president, and both of them die from Wuhan
Coronavirus this summer.

How about everyone in the legislature, executive branch and judiciary (+the DNC and RNC operatives and candidates) over the age of 63 dies starting on April 1st, 2020, beginning with Trump, and ending on the eve of the Democrat Convention, 12 July 2020?

..now that's a "fun" scenario!

[Guest]

A doctor speaking of the current novel virus mentioned that 20% of the adults under 50 in Kenya had AIDS.

Maybe they caught it from a toilet seat?

[Guest]

... P.S.: For those of you who enjoy thinking about apocalyptic scenarios
(and you know who you are), how about this one: Donald Trump and Joe
Biden are campaigning for president, and both of them die from Wuhan
Coronavirus this summer.

How about everyone in the legislature, executive branch and judiciary (+the DNC and RNC operatives and candidates) over the age of 63 dies starting on April 1st, 2020, beginning with Trump, and ending on the eve of the Democrat Convention, 12 July 2020?

..now that's a "fun" scenario!

Even better, everyone over 40 dies, so the Millennials take over and run the world...straight into the ground.

[FishbellykanakaDude]

[FishbellykanakaDude]

... P.S.: For those of you who enjoy thinking about apocalyptic scenarios
(and you know who you are), how about this one: Donald Trump and Joe
Biden are campaigning for president, and both of them die from Wuhan
Coronavirus this summer.

How about everyone in the legislature, executive branch and judiciary (+the DNC and RNC operatives and candidates) over the age of 63 dies starting on April 1st, 2020, beginning with Trump, and ending on the eve of the Democrat Convention, 12 July 2020?

..now that's a "fun" scenario!

Even better, everyone over 40 dies, so the Millennials take over and run the world...straight into the ground.

Ooooooo,.. so you're going for the FULL ON HORROR SHOW...!?

Might be TOO scary. Rather like a huge pack of starving dogs in a pit cannibalizing each other until finally we "gleefully" watch the "winning" dog starve to death.

..I like mine better. <chuckle!> Much more opportunity for black comedy, as it at least has two sides fighting each other.